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Reply #135 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:23pm
 
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source: http://www.climate4you.com

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Reply #136 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:24pm
 
Lee, could you perhaps explain this graph?
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Reply #137 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:22pm
 
It is a graph of the Sea Surface Temperatures of the North Atlantic.

It just doesn't show ever increasing temperatures, which is what the models tell us.

Of course things can change, but dropping sea temperatures may not be good for the likes of Europe this year. But June is close to mid-summer in the Northern Hemisphere, so warming would be expected by now.
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Reply #138 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:32pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:22pm:
It is a graph of the Sea Surface Temperatures of the North Atlantic.

It just doesn't show ever increasing temperatures, which is what the models tell us.

Of course things can change, but dropping sea temperatures may not be good for the likes of Europe this year. But June is close to mid-summer in the Northern Hemisphere, so warming would be expected by now.





Ummm no it doesn't it shows the temperature anomaly. At least that's what the y axis says.
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Reply #139 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:33pm
 
You are right. Do you think the anomalies shows consistent warming?
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Reply #140 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:35pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:33pm:
You are right. Do you think the anomalies shows consistent warming?




What they show is consistently warmer than average years since 2001.
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Reply #141 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:41pm
 
It also shows  SST anomaly as similar to 1981. But the cooling hasn't turned as yet.
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Reply #142 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:44pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:22pm:
It is a graph of the Sea Surface Temperatures of the North Atlantic.

It just doesn't show ever increasing temperatures, which is what the models tell us.

Of course things can change, but dropping sea temperatures may not be good for the likes of Europe this year. But June is close to mid-summer in the Northern Hemisphere, so warming would be expected by now.


You have to factor in the effect of the Antarctic ice melt which will lower the temperature of water. Even though its colder the ice melt water will be on the top layers of the ocean until it's mixed because fresh water is lower density than sea water.
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Reply #143 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:47pm
 
How much will Antarctic Ice melt affect the Northern Hemisphere?
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Reply #144 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 3:41pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 11:47am:
rabbitoh08, Ocean heat according to the Argo buoys, adjusted since they once showed cooling- and that would never do, show 0.023C/decade warming. Scary eh? Why do you think that even though the Argo buoys measure in C, they convert it into zetajoules? It makes it scary.

What else should heat content be measured in?

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Reply #145 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 3:43pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:23pm:

Why doesn't your link show me your graph?
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Reply #146 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 3:44pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:24pm:
Lee, could you perhaps explain this graph?

Graphs really do require titles...  Wink
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Reply #147 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 3:45pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:22pm:
It is a graph of the Sea Surface Temperatures of the North Atlantic.

It just doesn't show ever increasing temperatures, which is what the models tell us.

Of course things can change, but dropping sea temperatures may not be good for the likes of Europe this year. But June is close to mid-summer in the Northern Hemisphere, so warming would be expected by now.

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Reply #148 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 3:47pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:33pm:
You are right. Do you think the anomalies shows consistent warming?

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Reply #149 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 3:50pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:41pm:
It also shows  SST anomaly as similar to 1981. But the cooling hasn't turned as yet.

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