lee wrote on Aug 10^th, 2015 at 2:01pm:

ENSO isn't directly related to solar irradiance, it is driven but changes in oceanic currents.  Solar irradiance may affect the magnitude of an ENSO event, but no - El Nino isn't a "sun warming event".

Ajax wrote on Aug 8^th, 2015 at 11:40am:

The ol' wedge politics!

rabbitoh08 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 12:39pm:


Actually it does support that NASA at least did accept there had been a 'pause' (or at least a noticeable slowdown) in global warming. That they have now decided that there isn't/wasn't and that "they never said it" doesn't change that NASA, the IPCC and probably the other organisations did acknowledge it, which makes Longweekend's statement true.

rabbitoh08 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:



'Box 9.2 |  Climate Models and the Hiatus in Global Mean Surface Warming of the Past 15 Years
The observed global mean surface temperature (GMST) has shown a much smaller increasing linear trend over the past 15 years than
over the past 30 to 60 years (Section 2.4.3, Figure 2.20, Table 2.7; Figure 9.8; Box 9.2 Figure 1a, c). Depending on the observational
data set, the GMST trend over 1998–2012 is estimated to be around one-third to one-half of the trend over 1951–2012 (Section 2.4.3,
Table 2.7; Box 9.2 Figure 1a, c). For example, in HadCRUT4 the trend is 0.04ºC per decade over 1998–2012, compared to 0.11ºC per
decade over 1951–2012. '

https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter09_FINAL.pdf

'Between 1998 and 2012, climate scientists observed a slowdown in the rate at which the Earth's surface air temperature was rising. While the rise in global mean surface air temperature has continued, between 1998 and 2012 the increase was approximately one third of that from 1951 to 2012.

This trend — referred to as a "global warming hiatus" — has sparked a lot of debate and given rise to a reasonable question: Is global warming coming to a halt?'

http://climate.nasa.gov/news/1141/

The "hiatus" has also been called the "pause"

'A global warming hiatus,[3] also sometimes referred to as a global warming pause[4] or a global warming slowdown,[5] is a period of relatively little change in globally averaged surface temperatures.[6] In the current episode of global warming many such periods are evident in the surface temperature record, along with robust evidence of the long term warming trend.[3]'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_hiatus

Really, do we need to do this each and every time?

lee wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 6:24pm:

Yes - it appears we do need to do this each and every time - until you can understand this simple fact:

there is far more to "global warming" than the tiny, tiny bit of it that is surface temperature.

What don't you understand about this?

Are you being deliberately dense?  Or are you really just that ignorant?

What is it?

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 4:03pm:

No it doesn't .

Are you really this stupid?  Or are you as dishonest as Longweekend?

rabbitoh08 wrote on Aug 28^th, 2015 at 2:03am:
There is a lot of money in global warming denial because the people who are financing it, the fossil fuel industry, have a lot to lose.  And so they are flooding the internet with socks and mountains of misinformation to delay meaningful AGW action. The socks are despicable enough but those who have no climate science background telling us the experts are wrong are so irresponsible that there conduct if criminal as well IMO.Fortunately the world is waking up and many now are calling for these people to be punished for their crime to humanity AND importantly the internet never forgets.

mariacostel wrote on Aug 28^th, 2015 at 8:25am:


I think you and gizmo fall into the irresponsible (albiet criminally irresponsible) class of people whose gullibility and ideology make them particularly suseptible to well funded propoganda. As to Lee and Ajax I believe they're dispicable socks.

I have yet to see an argument prepared and cut and pasted here by the minions of AGW denialist lobby that is even remotely logical or credible. There only purpose is to misinform, confuse and delay action to protect the only accessible environment in the universe that is capable of supporting human life .