[quote]Silly man. You've been duped Ajax. So determined a few years ago to find a conspiracy, you're now so deep into your denialism that even the permanent disappearance of ice on both poles wont be enough to convince you that GW is happening. Come on Ajax, what will it take? I'm betting that you've invested so much pride in your denialism that absolutely nothing could ever convince you to eat humble pie and admit that the vested interest money men have made a complete and utter sucker of you.  But you must try. You're family need you to forget your pride, take stock and review everything you've swallowed from these suspect sites and do what every sensible person does in these situations. Follow the money trail. Who has most to gain by feeding you BS!!!  You need to do it now because with each year hotter then the next and more and more extreme weather events your gullibility will become increasingly obvious to those closest to you depending on you to exercise good judgment. Don't let them down. Rethink this Ajax. Greece is aflame in the worst fires they have seen for how long? And this is happening repeatedly in every country every summer its worse. Don't be stubborn, there's too much at stake.      

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 7:25am:




I thought this piece was a rather damning indictment of the warming movement and where they at considering the amount of time and money they have invested in convincing us all of the dangers of climate change ...








” The sceptics and deniers have turned the 70 per cent-plus belief in climate change into a minority because no one has engaged them.“

— Graham Richardson, Friday May 22nd, 2015

No one has engaged them?

That’s right Graham, we unfunded bloggers and the few surviving skeptical scientists not evicted and blackballed from our universities (yet) have tricked 20% of the population because no one has put forward the climate change arguments except for:  The Climate Commission, CSIRO, Deutsche Bank, Citigroup, Royal Dutch Shell, GE, Panasonic, The ABC, The BBC, The Guardian, Fairfax, The Australian government, most universities, The EU, The UN, The World Bank, and the IMF.

With a budget of nothing we’re winning. Why? We have nature on our side.* The world isn’t warming, the models can’t predict the real climate, and half the population have wised up to the propaganda. The main arguments of those who would control CO2 are not scientific, but insults and bluster, shutting up and disqualifying critics rather than answering politely, and producing the evidence. The University of Queensland offers a whole course in namecalling to train people to “engage” deniers. But the public know that the endless drought ended, the dams filled, the predictions were wrong and that “denier” is not science. Namecalling isn’t working anymore (so keep it coming Graham, it helps the skeptics ).





http://joannenova.com.au/2015/05/no-one-has-engaged-the-deniers-says-graham-rich...

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jul 21^st, 2015 at 10:25pm:


Spartacus my dear Patriot I was once a believer just like you, for at least 6 months after I had seen An inconvenient truth.

That is until I actually started to do some investing only to find that CO2 has never and will never control temperature here on Earth.

Oh yes the conspiracy theorist well when banks and bankers are heavily financing the alarmism you start to say to yourself W.T.F. these guys are only interested in money why are they trying to save the planet.

Bankers save the planet.....huh......I'd like to see that...!!!

Once they get it up and running even more CO2 will be pumped into the atmosphere and then of course they will also create technical recessions with this $2 trillion dollar market (carbon derivatives) once they get it going.

Also ask yourself where in history have scientist told other scientists to shut up and take notice because they are right and everyone else is wrong.

Science is about being sceptical until your formulaes and theories match the recordings (data) of the real word.

Anyway I need food, if you don't believe me then believe in the failings of the IPCC climate computer models, they cant predict the next decade let alone predicting climate change 100 years from now.

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Ajax wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:51pm:
Any one ever tell you how expertly you cut and paste. You must be very proud.  Maybe later they might graduate you to drafting a sentence or two

the thread is about the myth of the 97% consensus claim. How about you stick to topic for once.  Or is it too hard?  and the FACT of the subatomic structure is not a consensus position but a proven FACT.

idiot.

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:31pm:

Wow!!!

Not just a liar - but also profoundly stupid!!!

What a combination!

The hydrological cycle is driven by heat.  Change the amount of heat in the system - the system changes.

The planet is warming.  THis is beyond doubt  (yes - I know you told us that  NOAA, NASA, MET and BOM all agree that there has been a "pause in global warming"  - but this is clearly a lie.  You seem incapable of showing us evidence to support this bizarre claim).

A warming planet means more heat driving the hydrological cycle.  This means (briefly):
- more evaporation
- increased precipitation in some areas
- decreased précipitation and drought in some areas
- more precipitation falling as rain rather than snow
increased glacial melt
- significant impact on existing aquifers

You can read more here:
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/impacts/water-and-clima...
and here:
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/sres/regional/index.php?idp=72
and here:
http://web.science.unsw.edu.au/~jasone/publications/evans&schreider2002.pdf
and here:
http://www.earth-syst-dynam.net/4/129/2013/esd-4-129-2013.html


THere are mountains of evidence.  I would be happy to supply you with more - as soon as you apologise for telling lies to the Forum.

NOAA, NASA, MET and BOM DO NOT all agree that there has been a "pause in global warming", do they.    That was just a lie that you told, wasn't it.

double plus good wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 1:48pm:


As opposed to the rabid ravings of the retarded right. They brought us the Yellow Peril, Reds under the beds, the Domino effect, the non-existent WMDs and ISIS is coming to get us. All empty idle threats that they used as an excuse to unleash wars resulting in the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands and wind back democratic freedoms in the name of democracy.