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Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Reply #15 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:07pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:34pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

that doesn't count, nor do any other taxes the libs increase or introduce. Only labors taxes are bad.

like the carbon tax which you claim wasnt a tax.

It wasn't, it was a levy ... and no, it wasn't bad.

ah... a levy is not a tax. so the medicare levy is not a tax, it is just calculated on our tax returns and paid along with our... taxes. and the carbon tax was assessed by the ATo and paid long with company's... tax returns.

dig deeper.

no, according to Hockey and his deficit levy

keep digging dopey

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Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Reply #16 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:38pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

I wonder if you have worked it out yet but NO ONE in the federal govt is suggesting a rise in the GST. There is some public discussion and Abbott has ruled it out unless taken to an election. So how about calling things as they actually are and not making stuff up.

Uh-uh, naughty, wrongy. Shifting the goalposts won't work, nor will strawman arguments or your blatant lies.

Where did I say the Federal government? English comprehension isn't your strong point.

If you want to limit it to state premiers, you still lose. You're the one harping on about "labor" (sic) premiers proposing tax increases, yet totally ignoring that Liberal premiers (Baird, NSW) are also proposing tax increases.

Kaboom! your argument is holed below the waterline.

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Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Reply #17 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:20pm

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

I wonder if you have worked it out yet but NO ONE in the federal govt is suggesting a rise in the GST. There is some public discussion and Abbott has ruled it out unless taken to an election. So how about calling things as they actually are and not making stuff up.

Uh-uh, naughty, wrongy. Shifting the goalposts won't work, nor will strawman arguments or your blatant lies.

Where did I say the Federal government? English comprehension isn't your strong point.

If you want to limit it to state premiers, you still lose. You're the one harping on about "labor" (sic) premiers proposing tax increases, yet totally ignoring that Liberal premiers (Baird, NSW) are also proposing tax increases.

Kaboom! your argument is holed below the waterline.

the ONLY parliament that can increase the GST is the federal one therefore the only opinino that carries any weight is the federal govt's.

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Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Reply #18 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:32pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:20pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

I wonder if you have worked it out yet but NO ONE in the federal govt is suggesting a rise in the GST. There is some public discussion and Abbott has ruled it out unless taken to an election. So how about calling things as they actually are and not making stuff up.

Uh-uh, naughty, wrongy. Shifting the goalposts won't work, nor will strawman arguments or your blatant lies.

Where did I say the Federal government? English comprehension isn't your strong point.

If you want to limit it to state premiers, you still lose. You're the one harping on about "labor" (sic) premiers proposing tax increases, yet totally ignoring that Liberal premiers (Baird, NSW) are also proposing tax increases.

Kaboom! your argument is holed below the waterline.

the ONLY parliament that can increase the GST is the federal one therefore the only opinino that carries any weight is the federal govt's.

Which no doubt will become part of the agenda if their internal polling shows they stand a strong chance if keeping government. There's a reason the most popular liberal premier is the one raising the issue now. And it's not because he woke up one day and off his own accord decided it was an important issue.

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Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Reply #19 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:52pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:32pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:20pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

I wonder if you have worked it out yet but NO ONE in the federal govt is suggesting a rise in the GST. There is some public discussion and Abbott has ruled it out unless taken to an election. So how about calling things as they actually are and not making stuff up.

Uh-uh, naughty, wrongy. Shifting the goalposts won't work, nor will strawman arguments or your blatant lies.

Where did I say the Federal government? English comprehension isn't your strong point.

If you want to limit it to state premiers, you still lose. You're the one harping on about "labor" (sic) premiers proposing tax increases, yet totally ignoring that Liberal premiers (Baird, NSW) are also proposing tax increases.

Kaboom! your argument is holed below the waterline.

the ONLY parliament that can increase the GST is the federal one therefore the only opinino that carries any weight is the federal govt's.

Which no doubt will become part of the agenda if their internal polling shows they stand a strong chance if keeping government. There's a reason the most popular liberal premier is the one raising the issue now. And it's not because he woke up one day and off his own accord decided it was an important issue.

and taking it to an election is the right way to do it - as Howard did. Although that involves such precious concepts like ;mandates' which apparently exist if Labor wins an election by a hair and not if a liberal wins one by a landslide. Right? or do you want to debate mandates again and show us your ignorance and bias in equal measure?

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy Reply #20 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 6:03pm Quote: VICTORIAN Premier Daniel Andrews believes a hike in the Medicare levy of about $1000 a year for the average family could pay for a funding black hole in the health system I'd rather spend that $1000 on extra private health insurance F-wit....
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Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Reply #21 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 6:06pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:52pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:32pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:20pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

I wonder if you have worked it out yet but NO ONE in the federal govt is suggesting a rise in the GST. There is some public discussion and Abbott has ruled it out unless taken to an election. So how about calling things as they actually are and not making stuff up.

Uh-uh, naughty, wrongy. Shifting the goalposts won't work, nor will strawman arguments or your blatant lies.

Where did I say the Federal government? English comprehension isn't your strong point.

If you want to limit it to state premiers, you still lose. You're the one harping on about "labor" (sic) premiers proposing tax increases, yet totally ignoring that Liberal premiers (Baird, NSW) are also proposing tax increases.

Kaboom! your argument is holed below the waterline.

the ONLY parliament that can increase the GST is the federal one therefore the only opinino that carries any weight is the federal govt's.

Which no doubt will become part of the agenda if their internal polling shows they stand a strong chance if keeping government. There's a reason the most popular liberal premier is the one raising the issue now. And it's not because he woke up one day and off his own accord decided it was an important issue.

and taking it to an election is the right way to do it - as Howard did. Although that involves such precious concepts like ;mandates' which apparently exist if Labor wins an election by a hair and not if a liberal wins one by a landslide. Right? or do you want to debate mandates again and show us your ignorance and bias in equal measure?

Abort to gillard , if the PM only has the support of 60% of her cabinet how can she claim to have the mandate to govern ? Like that you mean ?

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Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Reply #22 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 6:09pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:20pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

I wonder if you have worked it out yet but NO ONE in the federal govt is suggesting a rise in the GST. There is some public discussion and Abbott has ruled it out unless taken to an election. So how about calling things as they actually are and not making stuff up.

Uh-uh, naughty, wrongy. Shifting the goalposts won't work, nor will strawman arguments or your blatant lies.

Where did I say the Federal government? English comprehension isn't your strong point.

If you want to limit it to state premiers, you still lose. You're the one harping on about "labor" (sic) premiers proposing tax increases, yet totally ignoring that Liberal premiers (Baird, NSW) are also proposing tax increases.

Kaboom! your argument is holed below the waterline.

the ONLY parliament that can increase the GST is the federal one therefore the only opinino that carries any weight is the federal govt's.

Irrelevant.

You're loudly proclaiming that a Labor premier made one suggestion for a tax increase while refusing to acknowledge that a Liberal premier made another prior proposal for a tax increase - BEFORE there was any talk of increasing the Medicare levy. Why won't you won't acknowledge this? Because you're biased and don't like being caught out posting crap?

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy Reply #23 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 6:11pm Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 6:09pm: Because you're biased and don't like being caught out posting crap? ....nobody does that here do they?
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Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Reply #24 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 6:18pm

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 6:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:20pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

I wonder if you have worked it out yet but NO ONE in the federal govt is suggesting a rise in the GST. There is some public discussion and Abbott has ruled it out unless taken to an election. So how about calling things as they actually are and not making stuff up.

Uh-uh, naughty, wrongy. Shifting the goalposts won't work, nor will strawman arguments or your blatant lies.

Where did I say the Federal government? English comprehension isn't your strong point.

If you want to limit it to state premiers, you still lose. You're the one harping on about "labor" (sic) premiers proposing tax increases, yet totally ignoring that Liberal premiers (Baird, NSW) are also proposing tax increases.

Kaboom! your argument is holed below the waterline.

the ONLY parliament that can increase the GST is the federal one therefore the only opinino that carries any weight is the federal govt's.

Irrelevant.

You're loudly proclaiming that a Labor premier made one suggestion for a tax increase while refusing to acknowledge that a Liberal premier made another prior proposal for a tax increase - BEFORE there was any talk of increasing the Medicare levy. Why won't you won't acknowledge this? Because you're biased and don't like being caught out posting crap?

I rate Andrews very poorly. He is a clown and might as well rename Victoria to CMFEUistan. His performance is dreadful and his attitude worse. I liked Mike Baird depiction of melbourne and LOVED the banner ads.

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Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Reply #25 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 7:19pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:52pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:32pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:20pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

I wonder if you have worked it out yet but NO ONE in the federal govt is suggesting a rise in the GST. There is some public discussion and Abbott has ruled it out unless taken to an election. So how about calling things as they actually are and not making stuff up.

Uh-uh, naughty, wrongy. Shifting the goalposts won't work, nor will strawman arguments or your blatant lies.

Where did I say the Federal government? English comprehension isn't your strong point.

If you want to limit it to state premiers, you still lose. You're the one harping on about "labor" (sic) premiers proposing tax increases, yet totally ignoring that Liberal premiers (Baird, NSW) are also proposing tax increases.

Kaboom! your argument is holed below the waterline.

the ONLY parliament that can increase the GST is the federal one therefore the only opinino that carries any weight is the federal govt's.

Which no doubt will become part of the agenda if their internal polling shows they stand a strong chance if keeping government. There's a reason the most popular liberal premier is the one raising the issue now. And it's not because he woke up one day and off his own accord decided it was an important issue.

and taking it to an election is the right way to do it - as Howard did. Although that involves such precious concepts like ;mandates' which apparently exist if Labor wins an election by a hair and not if a liberal wins one by a landslide. Right? or do you want to debate mandates again and show us your ignorance and bias in equal measure?

I'm not the one picking and choosing whether to believe in mandates or not. I'm simply using them to hold your partisan hack self to account given how vehemently you support the idea of a "mandate" and the definition of a "mandate" being some arbitrary majority result in a general election. You're the one who picks and chooses, and if I were you I'd quickly run and hide your head back in the sand.

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Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Reply #26 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 7:33pm

Swagman wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 6:03pm:

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VICTORIAN Premier Daniel Andrews believes a hike in the Medicare levy of about $1000 a year for the average family could pay for a funding black hole in the health system

I'd rather spend that $1000 on extra private health insurance F-wit....

You already get a huge rebate from the PAYE taxpayer and that needs to go. If you want public health like the rest of us it should be free like the rest of us but if you want private health care you should pay for it yourself, otherwise you're bludging off the rest of us.

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Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Reply #28 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 7:50pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 6:18pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 6:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:20pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:38pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

I wonder if you have worked it out yet but NO ONE in the federal govt is suggesting a rise in the GST. There is some public discussion and Abbott has ruled it out unless taken to an election. So how about calling things as they actually are and not making stuff up.

Uh-uh, naughty, wrongy. Shifting the goalposts won't work, nor will strawman arguments or your blatant lies.

Where did I say the Federal government? English comprehension isn't your strong point.

If you want to limit it to state premiers, you still lose. You're the one harping on about "labor" (sic) premiers proposing tax increases, yet totally ignoring that Liberal premiers (Baird, NSW) are also proposing tax increases.

Kaboom! your argument is holed below the waterline.

the ONLY parliament that can increase the GST is the federal one therefore the only opinino that carries any weight is the federal govt's.

Irrelevant.

You're loudly proclaiming that a Labor premier made one suggestion for a tax increase while refusing to acknowledge that a Liberal premier made another prior proposal for a tax increase - BEFORE there was any talk of increasing the Medicare levy. Why won't you won't acknowledge this? Because you're biased and don't like being caught out posting crap?

I rate Andrews very poorly. He is a clown and might as well rename Victoria to CMFEUistan. His performance is dreadful and his attitude worse. I liked Mike Baird depiction of melbourne and LOVED the banner ads.

Let's see, the other day you were sining the praises of that train wreck Abort and now you say you rate Andrews poorly. No wonder your opinion is worth sh!t!!!

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Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Reply #29 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 7:56pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

Increasing the GST isn't a Tax ?

The only way a government can increase income is with taxes, the only option is to choose which tax.

All he is saying is that if the liberals want to increase taxes why not this tax instead of that one. It is still the Liberals who are looking to increase taxes that they promised not to as you would expect.

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