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Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy
Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 7:53am

Medicare levy hike fairer: Vic premier
News.com.au
July 21, 2015 2:17PM

VICTORIAN Premier Daniel Andrews believes a hike in the Medicare levy of about $1000 a year for the average family could pay for a funding black hole in the health system.

HE wants Prime Minister Tony Abbott, and state and territory leaders when they meet on Wednesday to consider increasing the base rate of the Medicare levy as a fairer alternative to hiking up the GST.
He says a one per cent increase in the Medicare levy, from two to three per cent, would cost $1000 for families earning $100,000 a year.

He accepted that the average family might be angry about paying more taxes, but says they should direct that anger at Mr Abbott.

"Let's not for a moment lose sight why there is a $70 billion hole in our hospital budget. It's because Tony Abbott can't keep his promises and has hacked into hospitals like no other prime minister," he said in Melbourne on Tuesday. Sad

Mr Andrews has said he will not support an increase in the GST because he believes it is inequitable.

He says increasing the Medicare levy is fairer because it is calculated as a percentage of income.

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Reply #1 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:54am

I have no problem with increasing the medicare levy as long as we can be certain that the $$ will all go to health spending but the problem I have is with the Lib rhetoric that we need tax reform because health spending is unsustainable. If we are spending more then the revenue we are getting then its all a problem for every govt program not just health. Its a matter of priorities. Because the liberals want to gut the health budget, of course they identify it as a problem. But why isn't the problem all the $$$ we're wasting relocating refugees. Now that's defiantly unsustainable. We need to stop following the Lib lead and talking about health spending as the problem.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy Reply #2 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable. what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.
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Reply #3 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:15am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

Well Labor have a lot more leverage than the Libs as they never made a promise not to increase tax's .

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy Reply #4 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am: so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable. what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is. What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes?
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Reply #5 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:20am

ImSpartacus2 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:54am:

I have no problem with increasing the medicare levy as long as we can be certain that the $$ will all go to health spending but the problem I have is with the Lib rhetoric that we need tax reform because health spending is unsustainable. If we are spending more then the revenue we are getting then its all a problem for every govt program not just health. Its a matter of priorities. Because the liberals want to gut the health budget, of course they identify it as a problem. But why isn't the problem all the $$$ we're wasting relocating refugees. Now that's defiantly unsustainable. We need to stop following the Lib lead and talking about health spending as the problem.

And that is the problem.

Abbott has frozen the Medicare rebates payable to doctors, yet the Medicare levy is taking in more money due to inflation. Where's the rest of the money from the Medicare levy going, if not to fund Medicare? Huh

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Grappler Deep State Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 85457 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Consider Increasing The Medicare Levy Reply #6 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 11:48am Private health costs to rise anyway... http://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/news/14465/20150722/health-premiums-set-to-soa... Plenty of meat here already - not going to repeat myself indefinitely...
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Reply #7 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 11:53am

Longie At The Bat

The sneer is gone from Longie’s lip, his teeth are clenched in hate,
He pounds with cruel violence his bat upon the plate;
And now the pitcher holds the ball, and now he lets it go,
And now the air is shattered by the force of Longie’s blow.

Oh, somewhere in this favoured land the sun is shining bright,
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light;
And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children
shout,
But there is no joy in Mudville—mighty Longie has struck out.

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Reply #8 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 1:58pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

To be fair, increasing the GST is the same thing. If a GST increase can't get through, then this doesn't seem like such a bad idea at first glance.

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Reply #9 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:34pm

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

that doesn't count, nor do any other taxes the libs increase or introduce. Only labors taxes are bad.

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Reply #10 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

I wonder if you have worked it out yet but NO ONE in the federal govt is suggesting a rise in the GST. There is some public discussion and Abbott has ruled it out unless taken to an election. So how about calling things as they actually are and not making stuff up.

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Reply #11 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:05pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:34pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

that doesn't count, nor do any other taxes the libs increase or introduce. Only labors taxes are bad.

like the carbon tax which you claim wasnt a tax.

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Reply #12 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:07pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:34pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

that doesn't count, nor do any other taxes the libs increase or introduce. Only labors taxes are bad.

like the carbon tax which you claim wasnt a tax.

It wasn't, it was a levy ... and no, it wasn't bad.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #13 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:09pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

I wonder if you have worked it out yet but NO ONE in the federal govt is suggesting a rise in the GST. There is some public discussion and Abbott has ruled it out unless taken to an election. So how about calling things as they actually are and not making stuff up.

Abbott's been orchestrating this since his first budget ... he cut funding to health and education until they have no choice but to ask for more GST, that way he can blame the states. Cheesy

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #14 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:31pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:07pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:34pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:17am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 10:05am:

so a labor premier wants more taxes! How cute and how absolutely predictable.

what he actually means is an income tax increase because that is exactly what it is.

What is a GST increase, numbskull? Less taxes? Grin

that doesn't count, nor do any other taxes the libs increase or introduce. Only labors taxes are bad.

like the carbon tax which you claim wasnt a tax.

It wasn't, it was a levy ... and no, it wasn't bad.

ah... a levy is not a tax. so the medicare levy is not a tax, it is just calculated on our tax returns and paid along with our... taxes. and the carbon tax was assessed by the ATo and paid long with company's... tax returns.

dig deeper.

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