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Reply #15 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:55pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

The really sad part is that Slipper has shown more ethics than the current speaker

yeah really? slipper has 20 offences to his name. But there is only one motivation for any position you hold on any topic: anti-liberal. Perhaps you could try involving facts, perspective and truth into your thinking.

or not.

"Facts, perspective and truth," hey. Your post is yet another lie. Slipper has zero offences to his name. Why do you continue to just make shhit up, melielongtime? Do you like proving me right all the time?

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Reply #16 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:59pm

Should speakers sever party ties?

Even if they severed ties with their party, they'd still be sympathetic to that party.

The Speaker should be selected from the public service.

The way it is at the moment is like the referee of a football game being on the board of the club of one of the teams that are playing.

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Reply #17 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:19pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:59pm:

Should speakers sever party ties?

1. Even if they severed ties with their party, they'd still be sympathetic to that party.

2. The Speaker should be selected from the public service.

3. The way it is at the moment is like the referee of a football game being on the board of the club of one of the teams that are playing.

Re 1. It's been acknowledged as an issue.

Re 2. It's impossible under our system of govt.

Re 3. Couldn't agree with you more.

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Reply #19 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:40pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

More made up crap. Slipper resigned from the LNP.

a bit like people 'resign' from companies ahead of being sacked. Your innocence of how it happens in the real world is rather weird.

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Reply #20 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:41pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

Slipper was an independent when he was Speaker. How he got there is irrelevant.

As opposed to Biased Bronny, who isn't even pretending to be impartial while abusing her position as Speaker to raise funds for the Liberal party.

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Reply #21 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:44pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:53pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

More made up crap. Slipper resigned from the LNP.

a bit like people 'resign' from companies ahead of being sacked. Your innocence of how it happens in the real world is rather weird.

Oh, I know the details very well, melielongtime. You forget, Slipper was the Member for Fisher, which is in the heart of my dunghill. I know, but you clearly did not, that he did not have his party ties severed for him. He resigned. You lied......yet again.

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Reply #22 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:18pm

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

Slipper was an independent when he was Speaker. How he got there is irrelevant.

As opposed to Biased Bronny, who isn't even pretending to be impartial while abusing her position as Speaker to raise funds for the Liberal party.

it's extremely relevant. He became an independent after resigning from a party that was in the process of throwing him out for his behaviour. That is not an irrelevency.

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Reply #23 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:21pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

Slipper was an independent when he was Speaker. How he got there is irrelevant.

As opposed to Biased Bronny, who isn't even pretending to be impartial while abusing her position as Speaker to raise funds for the Liberal party.

it's extremely relevant. He became an independent after resigning from a party that was in the process of throwing him out for his behaviour. That is not an irrelevency.

Do you support Bishop continuing to occupy the Speaker's Chair, melielongtime?

Was Slipper a 'better' Speaker than Bishop is?

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Reply #24 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:22pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

Yet you can't deny he was a lot more impartial than the current partisan helicopter riding moron.

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Re: Should speakers sever party ties?
Reply #25 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:41pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

Slipper was an independent when he was Speaker. How he got there is irrelevant.

As opposed to Biased Bronny, who isn't even pretending to be impartial while abusing her position as Speaker to raise funds for the Liberal party.

it's extremely relevant. He became an independent after resigning from a party that was in the process of throwing him out for his behaviour. That is not an irrelevency.

Do you support Bishop continuing to occupy the Speaker's Chair, melielongtime?

Was Slipper a 'better' Speaker than Bishop is?

I expect she will resign in a month or two and I suspect the decision has already been made. Yes, she should go. Slipper was a disgrace and the only single thing you like about him was that his defection permitted the Gillard govt to stay in power. You are as trasnparent as you are ethics-free, fake lawyer.

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Reply #26 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:41pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

Slipper was an independent when he was Speaker. How he got there is irrelevant.

As opposed to Biased Bronny, who isn't even pretending to be impartial while abusing her position as Speaker to raise funds for the Liberal party.

it's extremely relevant. He became an independent after resigning from a party that was in the process of throwing him out for his behaviour. That is not an irrelevency.

Do you support Bishop continuing to occupy the Speaker's Chair, melielongtime?

Was Slipper a 'better' Speaker than Bishop is?

I expect she will resign in a month or two and I suspect the decision has already been made. Yes, she should go. Slipper was a disgrace and the only single thing you like about him was that his defection permitted the Gillard govt to stay in power. You are as trasnparent as you are ethics-free, fake lawyer.

Putting his $900 indiscretion aside he was actually quite a good speaker, who didn't have a record of 99.9% of people
Kicked out being from the opposition.

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Re: Should speakers sever party ties?
Reply #27 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:50pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:41pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 4:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

Slipper was an independent when he was Speaker. How he got there is irrelevant.

As opposed to Biased Bronny, who isn't even pretending to be impartial while abusing her position as Speaker to raise funds for the Liberal party.

it's extremely relevant. He became an independent after resigning from a party that was in the process of throwing him out for his behaviour. That is not an irrelevency.

Do you support Bishop continuing to occupy the Speaker's Chair, melielongtime?

Was Slipper a 'better' Speaker than Bishop is?

I expect she will resign in a month or two and I suspect the decision has already been made. Yes, she should go. Slipper was a disgrace and the only single thing you like about him was that his defection permitted the Gillard govt to stay in power. You are as trasnparent as you are ethics-free, fake lawyer.

Putting his $900 indiscretion aside he was actually quite a good speaker, who didn't have a record of 99.9% of people
Kicked out being from the opposition.

as has been amply demonstrated in the recent past where your goldfish memory doesnt allow you to go, Hansard stats show that ALL speakers favour the government of the day and Bishop's performance is not at significant variance from anyone else. I am equally sure you will absolutely refuse to accept that and demand a link which you will then deny in a months time when the topci inevitably arises again.

GET A MEMORY.

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Reply #29 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 6:07pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 6:04pm:

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Hansard stats show that ALL speakers favour the government of the day

That is true, but Bishop is a stand out ~ unique. Have you signed the Petition which presses for her resignation/removal? I'll re-post the link if you haven't.

the point of the hansard stats was to demonstrate that she ISNT a standout at all. Her removal for travel rorts is a different issue. (I know. 2 separate issues must be hard for you to follow)

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