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Should speakers sever party ties?
Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:42pm

Should we follow the UK and make it mandatory that all speakers sever all party ties? I think it's a good start although forcing them to sever ties doesn't make them any less biased.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-21/earl-bishop-should-follow-britains-lead-an...

If Bronwyn Bishop wishes to remain Speaker, she should sever links with the Liberal Party. And our Parliament should follow Britain's lead and make this move mandatory for future speakers, writes Chris Earl.

The problem with incumbents of the speaker's chair in Australia's House of Representatives is that they are beholden to party machines that determine their tenure as the nation's number one standard bearer for the democratic ideals of the nation

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59393 Here Gender:	Re: Should speakers sever party ties? Reply #1 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:43pm I think the speaker role should be a different and independent path. Maybe they could be chosen from Helicopter pilots ?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75280 Gender:	Re: Should speakers sever party ties? Reply #2 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:45pm Dnarever wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:43pm: I think the speaker role should be a different and independent path. that would be even better, but I don't see it happening any time soon.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Should speakers sever party ties? Reply #3 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:45pm Hello John If we adopted the UK model, do you think it would really change much here?
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Should speakers sever party ties? Reply #4 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:46pm John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:45pm: Dnarever wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:43pm: I think the speaker role should be a different and independent path. that would be even better, but I don't see it happening any time soon. Yep...agree with you both.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75280 Gender:	Re: Should speakers sever party ties? Reply #5 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:50pm Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:45pm: Hello John If we adopted the UK model, do you think it would really change much here? I think it's a start in the right direction. Maintaining the Status Quo isn't going to fix anything
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Re: Should speakers sever party ties?
Reply #6 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Should speakers sever party ties? Reply #7 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:56pm Any particular reason it needs to be someone elected to government instead of some kind of public servant role like the clerk?
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Re: Should speakers sever party ties?
Reply #8 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

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Re: Should speakers sever party ties?
Reply #9 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

The really sad part is that Slipper has shown more ethics than the current speaker

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Re: Should speakers sever party ties?
Reply #10 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:29pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

The really sad part is that Slipper has shown more ethics than the current speaker

yeah really? slipper has 20 offences to his name. But there is only one motivation for any position you hold on any topic: anti-liberal. Perhaps you could try involving facts, perspective and truth into your thinking.

or not.

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Re: Should speakers sever party ties?
Reply #11 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

The really sad part is that Slipper has shown more ethics than the current speaker

yeah really? slipper has 20 offences to his name. But there is only one motivation for any position you hold on any topic: anti-liberal. Perhaps you could try involving facts, perspective and truth into your thinking.

or not.

Yeah John....you're such an ANTI LIBERAL. Roll Eyes

Can't you at least TRY to be something else? Tongue

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Re: Should speakers sever party ties?
Reply #12 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:45pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

The really sad part is that Slipper has shown more ethics than the current speaker

yeah really? slipper has 20 offences to his name. But there is only one motivation for any position you hold on any topic: anti-liberal. Perhaps you could try involving facts, perspective and truth into your thinking.

or not.

Slipper was found guilty is the same thing Abbott is now protecting Bishop from. Cheesy

By the way dopey, Slipper IS a liberal, you tosser

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Re: Should speakers sever party ties?
Reply #13 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:45pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

The really sad part is that Slipper has shown more ethics than the current speaker

yeah really? slipper has 20 offences to his name. But there is only one motivation for any position you hold on any topic: anti-liberal. Perhaps you could try involving facts, perspective and truth into your thinking.

or not.

Yeah John....you're such an ANTI LIBERAL. Roll Eyes

Can't you at least TRY to be something else? Tongue

anti liberal? Slipper was a liberal wasn't he? Tongue

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Re: Should speakers sever party ties?
Reply #14 - Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:53pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 2:51pm:

The first Speaker of the Federal Parliament did sever party ties. Slipper is one of the few Speakers who've come anywhere near that principle. B.Bishop, on the other hand, is such a poor custodian of impartiality that she has even used her Speaker's office for Liberal party functions.

IMO it would be a good idea for the Speaker to become an independent by renouncing any party affiliation.

Slipper had his part ties severed FOR him. Please dont imbue him with a set of ethics an honesty he clearly does not nor ever did, possess.

More made up crap. Slipper resigned from the LNP.

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