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Reply #15 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:16pm
 
You realise that if you combine all the people killed by Islamic extremists in the whole world each year(15000~) approximately equates to the number of people killed by homicide in the USA(13754~) ?

Im not kidding, do the math.

This is why I don't think that Islam is the boogie man that its made out to be. Its human nature.
As i said to Sprint last week,  Wanna make a bet????

Even if you add the total number of murders committed by every Islamic extremist across the globe you still only get a number equivalent to the annual Murder rate of the third largest country, which has only 20% of the population of the Islamic world.

Empirically Americans are 5 times more likely to commit murder than a Moslem.
This is why i like numbers. They cut straight through the B/S


So sprint, hows about that wager???
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Reply #16 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:37pm
 
Pho Huc wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:16pm:
You realise that if you combine all the people killed by Islamic extremists in the whole world each year(15000~) approximately equates to the number of people killed by homicide in the USA(13754~) ?

Im not kidding, do the math.

This is why I don't think that Islam is the boogie man that its made out to be. Its human nature.
As i said to Sprint last week,  Wanna make a bet????

Even if you add the total number of murders committed by every Islamic extremist across the globe you still only get a number equivalent to the annual Murder rate of the third largest country, which has only 20% of the population of the Islamic world.

Empirically Americans are 5 times more likely to commit murder than a Moslem.
This is why i like numbers. They cut straight through the B/S


So sprint, hows about that wager???




Pho Huc,

What is the population of the USA ?

~250 million ?



Pho Huc,

Just suppose,
that somehow, 1/ ISLAMISTS were able to destroy all government authority in the USA,
and that 2/ somehow ISLAMISTS were able to establish the authority of the ISLAMIC State [the Caliphate] in the USA,
would you care to guess how many infidels [who rejected their authority] the ISLAMISTS could possibly decide to 'liquidate' ???




Pho Huc,

ISLAM, ISLAMIC doctrine, the Koran, ISLAMIC law,        all declare and confirm that within an absolute [i.e. 'pure'] Sharia jurisdiction, those who reject ISLAM [i.e. those who reject ISLAM's authority over their lives] have absolutely no protection in law.

Such people are "OUTLAWS".

And typically, traditionally, a citizen cannot be prosecuted if he kills any person who is an outlaw [i.e. a person who is outside the protection of the common law of the land].



"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."

Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4


"It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land....."
Koran 8.67



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THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/


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Reply #17 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:54pm
 
last four days added to the month of July for islamic atrocities by:

Date / Country / City / Killed / Injured Description

2015.07.27 India Gurdaspur 6 8 Militants yelling 'Allah Akbar' spray a bus with automatic weapons fire, then assault a municipal building, killing six. 

2015.07.26 Somalia Mogadishu 15 20 A suicide car bomber plows into a hotel and massacres fifteen innocents. 

2015.07.26 Nigeria Damaturu 15 47 A 10-year-old suicide bomber detonates at a packed market, scattering body parts and claiming sixteen souls. 

2015.07.26 Cameroon Tchebe-Tchebe 3 0 Boko Haram behead three villagers and set fire to their church. 

2015.07.25 Thailand Pattani 2 6 A Buddhist monk is among two killed by a Muslim bomb. 

2015.07.25 Syria Aleppo 5 0 Five children are disassembled by a Sunni rocket. 

2015.07.25 Cameroon Maroua 19 62 A female suicide bomber massacres twenty people at a bar. 

2015.07.25 Iraq Tuz Khurmatu 12 45 A dozen people at a swimming pool are blown up by two suicide bombers. 

2015.07.24 Nigeria Maikadiri 21 0 Strict Islamists open fire on hapless villagers, slaughtering at least twenty-one.

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islam demands a never ending flow of blood to appease the satanic allah.
 
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Reply #18 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:58pm
 
moses wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:54pm:
islam demands a never ending flow of blood to appease the satanic allah.


Sure could have fooled me.  My Muslim neighbours fled other Muslims who disagree with their interpretation of Islam.  No murders around here, despite them praying to the same Allah...   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #19 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:10pm
 
Oh gee here we go again, it's not every muslim.

Why do muslims kill each other over the qur'an?

Oh that's right they are told to qur'an 5.32 and 5.33, plus other murderous verses all inciting muslims to torture and kill, kill, kill.

Keep making excuses for the death cult.

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Reply #20 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:14pm
 
Pho Huc wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:16pm:
You realise that if you combine all the people killed by Islamic extremists in the whole world each year(15000~) approximately equates to the number of people killed by homicide in the USA(13754~) ?

Im not kidding, do the math.



There are an estimated 270 million deaths caused by muslims doing Jihad since $profit Mo started peddling his delusional beliefs.
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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Reply #21 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:14pm
 
Why do Christians kill each other over the teachings of the Bible?
Why do Buddhists kill each other over the teachings of Buddha?
Why do Hindus kill each other the teachings of the Vedas?
Why does anybody kill anybody over the teachings of anything?

I look forward to your reply which would solve all the sectarian conflict the world has ever seen Moses!   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin
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Reply #22 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:17pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 12:06pm:
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His family repeatedly described him as violent and mentally ill; his mental health had been called into question going back decades, and he spent time in a hospital receiving psychiatric care.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/us/lafayette-theater-shooting-john-houser.html...

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He was a man with serious mental illness, depressed and conflicted, a devout Muslim who regularly violated his faith by smoking marijuana and drinking heavily, but not anti-American or connected to ISIS.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-blames-pot-alcohol-chattanooga-shooters-troubles...

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Martin John Bryant[1] (born 7 May 1967) is an Australian mass murderer who pleaded guilty to murdering 35 people and injuring 23 others in the Port Arthur massacre

...

On 13 November 2006, Bryant was moved into Hobart's Wilfred Lopes Centre,[3] a secure mental health unit run by the Tasmanian Department of Health and Human Services. The 35-bed unit for inmates with serious mental illness is staffed with doctors, nurses, and other support workers....Bryant was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome while incarcerated.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant

A common practice is for people to pick through atrocities committed by people who purportedly were muslim and declare Islam as the common denominator.

Here's a novel exercise: can anyone see any 'common denominator' between the three individuals mentioned above? Does it change the way we view these 'common denominators?' Is it possible to say that in this case all three were affected by their mental illness, and that therefore in the one case of the muslim - Islam shouldn't be cited as the cause?


Being suicidal and homicidal is the worst case scenario for mental health,Islam produces a lot of suicidal and homicidal muslims.
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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.
 
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Reply #23 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:24pm
 
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Why do Christians kill each other over the teachings of the Bible?
Why do Buddhists kill each other over the teachings of Buddha?
Why do Hindus kill each other the teachings of the Vedas?
Why does anybody kill anybody over the teachings of anything?

I look forward to your reply which would solve all the sectarian conflict the world has ever seen Moses!


I am unaware of any such conflicts, unless you're going to employ the age old apologist's trick of using ancient history.

I do know that right now muslims and islam are considered a world wide security threat, with countries / states being forced to spend billions of dollars on islam / muslim surveillance.

Why?

Because of blood crazed muslims all doing their best to torture / kill someone, so they can get a room full on houris with big tits.
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Reply #24 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:32pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
Pho Huc wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:16pm:
You realise that if you combine all the people killed by Islamic extremists in the whole world each year(15000~) approximately equates to the number of people killed by homicide in the USA(13754~) ?

Im not kidding, do the math.

This is why I don't think that Islam is the boogie man that its made out to be. Its human nature.
As i said to Sprint last week,  Wanna make a bet????

Even if you add the total number of murders committed by every Islamic extremist across the globe you still only get a number equivalent to the annual Murder rate of the third largest country, which has only 20% of the population of the Islamic world.

Empirically Americans are 5 times more likely to commit murder than a Moslem.
This is why i like numbers. They cut straight through the B/S


So sprint, hows about that wager???




Pho Huc,

What is the population of the USA ?

~250 million ?



Pho Huc,

Just suppose,
that somehow, 1/ ISLAMISTS were able to destroy all government authority in the USA,
and that 2/ somehow ISLAMISTS were able to establish the authority of the ISLAMIC State [the Caliphate] in the USA,
would you care to guess how many infidels [who rejected their authority] the ISLAMISTS could possibly decide to 'liquidate' ???




Pho Huc,

ISLAM, ISLAMIC doctrine, the Koran, ISLAMIC law,        all declare and confirm that within an absolute [i.e. 'pure'] Sharia jurisdiction, those who reject ISLAM [i.e. those who reject ISLAM's authority over their lives] have absolutely no protection in law.

Such people are "OUTLAWS".

And typically, traditionally, a citizen cannot be prosecuted if he kills any person who is an outlaw [i.e. a person who is outside the protection of the common law of the land].





Sorry Yadda, i had to delete your mandatory Quran quotes, they were taking up to much space Smiley

Regarding your points sequentially

I am aware of the population of the USA(250 Mill)
I am aware of the Moslem population(1.5 Bill)
The USA has approximately 13500 murders annually. 

There are approximately 15000 death globally attributed to Islamic extremism annually.

Hence, my statement that the USA is approximately 5 times more dangerous than the middle east. based on deaths/per head of population. Not an opinion. a fact.

I hope that clarified my argument Yadda.
anywayz,


1-  Assuming that america was somehow converted into an Islamic caliphate, The numbers would indicate that you could actually expect to see a reduction in the murder rate.

The average murder rate in Islam dominated countries is 2.4 deaths per 100,000
In america the current murder rate is 4.5 deaths per 100,000.

2- Regarding your assertion that Kaffirs in the Moslom countries have no protections due to either customs or legal structures.

Indonesia-Majority muslim.
Malaysia -majority muslim.

I have traveled and worked in both these countries and was treated with respect and courtesy by all I met. No-one tried to decapitate me inspite of being an infidel. 

Many other Australians travel to these countries any also have no problems.

I understand that their are many Moslem countries which lack the stability of the referenced countries, and have a higher rate of violence but that is due to civil conflict, not religious predilection.
If it was solely caused by the Islamic faith you would expect to find the same violent trends in all Moslem countries.
   
Yadda, given your point of view wouldn't you expect more Moslem on Non-Moslem violence than Moslem on Moslem violence?
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Reply #25 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:41pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:14pm:
Pho Huc wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:16pm:
You realise that if you combine all the people killed by Islamic extremists in the whole world each year(15000~) approximately equates to the number of people killed by homicide in the USA(13754~) ?

Im not kidding, do the math.



There are an estimated 270 million deaths caused by muslims doing Jihad since $profit Mo started peddling his delusional beliefs.


And my phallus has been estimated by aliens at over 16 qulongs in length.

relevance.
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Reply #26 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:50pm
 
moses wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:24pm:
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I do know that right now muslims and islam are considered a world wide security threat, with countries / states being forced to spend billions of dollars on islam / muslim surveillance.



Forced to spend?
I never saw a protest demanding the invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan.

Hell, I doubt that most people would have supported the initial training/arming of the Taliban by the US which created the foundation for the WAR ON TERRUH .

I say that Military and Security services have never been happier, they are flush with cash and have an all reaching mandate to protect our valuable societies from the terrorizing threat of extreme Islam/communism/nazism/marxism whatever the flavour of the times is.

In the 40's the fight against fascism strengthened the communist movement.
In the 70's the fight against communism strengthened the Islamic militants.
In the 2000's fighting Islamic militants has strengthened extreme Islam.

Surely i am not the only person who sees a pattern in these events.
Conflict does not resolve conflict, it perpetuates it.

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Reply #27 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 2:11pm
 
More excuses for atrocities committed as a spiritual requirement for the death cult.

The  meaning  of  islam  is  submission  to  the  will  of
allah. islam divides the world into dar al-islam liter-
ally the house or region of submission – those lands
under  muslim  government  –  and  dar  al-Harb  the
house or region of war – those lands where muslims
are  in  the  minority. For  muslims  peace  will  be
achieved when the whole world is dar al-islam. Until
that time there will be conflict in dar al-Harb.

I lean more towards the muslim push for a world wide islamic caliphate, being the cause of the present day troubles. 
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Reply #28 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 2:19pm
 
Response deleted, Ill wait for a post supported by a decent argument.
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Reply #29 - Jul 28th, 2015 at 3:05pm
 
moses wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:24pm:
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Why do Christians kill each other over the teachings of the Bible?
Why do Buddhists kill each other over the teachings of Buddha?
Why do Hindus kill each other the teachings of the Vedas?
Why does anybody kill anybody over the teachings of anything?

I look forward to your reply which would solve all the sectarian conflict the world has ever seen Moses!


I am unaware of any such conflicts, unless you're going to employ the age old apologist's trick of using ancient history.


Your head is buried in the ground it would seem then Moses.

Christians killing Christians - Africa
Buddhists killing Buddhists - SE Asia
Hindus killing Hindus - India

Look them up in Google if you don't believe me.

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I do know that right now muslims and islam are considered a world wide security threat, with countries / states being forced to spend billions of dollars on islam / muslim surveillance.

Why?

Because of blood crazed muslims all doing their best to torture / kill someone, so they can get a room full on houris with big tits.


Do you think they would threaten Australia if Australia wasn't involved in their affairs in the Middle-East/South-West Asia Moses?   I suspect they wouldn't even look at Australia otherwise.  Why would they?   We are a long way from their homelands.  We attract attention to ourselves by sending troops to their homelands to kill them...   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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