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Reply #30 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 1:17pm

Every single muslim dreams of a world wide dar al-islam.

The good old world wide islamic caliphate.

They are a world wide problem, their cult is based on the personality of a blood crazed thief, liar, pedophile, rapist, torturer and mass murderer.

They are known by their world wide deeds of depravity.

Keep making excuses for them

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: common denominators Reply #31 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 1:50pm Who is excusing them? If anything I'm providing explanations. Explanations which you don't like Moses because they offer alternatives to your pious Christian piffle.
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Reply #32 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 2:36pm

Oh I see it's an explanation now.

Here's some music to go with your **explanation**.

it's got nuffinc to do wiv islam

cause islam's a religion of peace

it doesn't really mean what it says

cause it's written in Arabic

muslims only kill you

cause they're blood crazed lunatics

all they really want is

the houri's with big tits

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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: common denominators Reply #33 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 3:01pm deleted
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Reply #34 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 3:05pm

moses wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 2:36pm:

I rewrote it for greater accuracy!

I just cant get it to line up pretty like you do Moses, but on the flip side at least mine rhymes!

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Reply #35 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 5:34pm

Pho Huc wrote:
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I rewrote it for greater accuracy!

I just cant get it to line up pretty like you do Moses, but on the flip side at least mine rhymes!

Never mind it's a good effort to exonerate muslims and their atrocities, however the old *anyone who criticizes and condemns islam is afraid of muslims*, lost it's lustre eons ago. Today the world has woken up to the muslim / islamic threat, the net is overflowing with the disgust and horror people feel towards the cult and it's ideological degeneracy.

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Reply #36 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 6:29pm

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif I know they like to send death threats http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif I found em on the intuhnets http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o113/ringerding/music1.gif

No exoneration of anybody in my verse- excoriation only! Wink

I really hope we never have a problem with the militarization of any segment of our community, and ill do everything i can to prevent it. we fundamentally have the same goals, only differing methods.

I attempt to provide perspective sadly lacking in the media coverage of Islamic extremism, and hope that people may view the issues of today with a broader attitude than simple rejection.

I operate on the no-one be a d1ck to anyone principle,
wherein I feel compelled to argue with anyone being a d1ck to anyone else.

If I see anyone being a d1ck I will intervene, regardless of ethnicity or religion. Principles are important.

Mostly on this site i see people being d1ck's about Islam and i feel compelled to defend it regardless of my personal beliefs.

The fact that I joined this forum to oppose Moses and Yaddas views after reading them should demonstrate just how highly the sentiments purveyed by those mentioned registered on my D1ickometer.

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: common denominators Reply #37 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 2:12pm Well I'd say my perspective is pretty clear. I want the filth and perversion which is the ideological base for islamic extremism, cleaned out of islam, qur'an, commands of allah, teachings of muhammad. There is no other way, the above utter evilness has to go.
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Reply #38 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 2:26pm

Moses Islam in its current form has been here for 1500 years prior to your existence.

I seriously doubt your desire for it to totally change is going to happen in your lifetime(not unless you seriously sharpen your persuasion skills).

If you keep stating that you will only be satisfied when Islam conforms to your expectations, your gonna be unhappy for a lllooonnngg time.

Read the new testament and learn to love you neighbor-It means you get to be happy and pious! Kick ass right?

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Reply #39 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 4:58pm

Well Pho Huc no one knows how long before truth eventually wins the battle against islamic evilness.

Warnings of the dangers of islam in it's present form are now being widely spread and accepted around the globe (if the net is any indication).

The world is sick and tired of the muslims and their religious atrocities, it may happen a lot quicker than you think.

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Reply #40 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 5:18pm

I was really tempted to say the following
"The truth is that the battle against Islamic evil is a battle of evil against Islam"

But that would rely on having an intimate knowledge of both evil and Islam, which i lack.
I have a cursory understanding of Islam, and no understanding of evil

(other than it rarely exists in a pure form-Its like chlorine, toxic alone but usually found compounded with other elements which reduce its toxicity)

The net is a poor indication of global attitudes to anything, unless your analyzing petabytes of information.
It is a wonderful source of confirmation bias however so that's a plus I guess.

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Reply #41 - Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 6:18pm

Pho there are some interesting surveys of opinions of Muslims from around the world done by the Pew centre. It makes for eye-opening reading.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25^th, 2015 at 12:06pm:

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His family repeatedly described him as violent and mentally ill; his mental health had been called into question going back decades, and he spent time in a hospital receiving psychiatric care.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/us/lafayette-theater-shooting-john-houser.html...

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He was a man with serious mental illness, depressed and conflicted, a devout Muslim who regularly violated his faith by smoking marijuana and drinking heavily, but not anti-American or connected to ISIS.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-blames-pot-alcohol-chattanooga-shooters-troubles...

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Martin John Bryant[1] (born 7 May 1967) is an Australian mass murderer who pleaded guilty to murdering 35 people and injuring 23 others in the Port Arthur massacre

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On 13 November 2006, Bryant was moved into Hobart's Wilfred Lopes Centre,[3] a secure mental health unit run by the Tasmanian Department of Health and Human Services. The 35-bed unit for inmates with serious mental illness is staffed with doctors, nurses, and other support workers....Bryant was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome while incarcerated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant

A common practice is for people to pick through atrocities committed by people who purportedly were muslim and declare Islam as the common denominator.

Here's a novel exercise: can anyone see any 'common denominator' between the three individuals mentioned above? Does it change the way we view these 'common denominators?' Is it possible to say that in this case all three were affected by their mental illness, and that therefore in the one case of the muslim - Islam shouldn't be cited as the cause?

Is it possible that it can be misleading to sift through and find all the perpetrators who have an association with Islam - and in the process ignore other commonalities they may have had with other mass murderers - which may better explain their behaviour?

Put simply, can it be misleading, or even wrong to hold up two (or more) separate atrocities committed by muslims and declare "Islam is the common denominator - therefore Islam to blame"?

What is the common denominator for the 100 or so young Aussies currently raping and pillaging their way across the middle east?

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #43 - Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 7:28pm

freediver wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2015 at 6:18pm:

Pho there are some interesting surveys of opinions of Muslims from around the world done by the Pew centre. It makes for eye-opening reading.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25^th, 2015 at 12:06pm:

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His family repeatedly described him as violent and mentally ill; his mental health had been called into question going back decades, and he spent time in a hospital receiving psychiatric care.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/us/lafayette-theater-shooting-john-houser.html...

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He was a man with serious mental illness, depressed and conflicted, a devout Muslim who regularly violated his faith by smoking marijuana and drinking heavily, but not anti-American or connected to ISIS.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-blames-pot-alcohol-chattanooga-shooters-troubles...

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Martin John Bryant[1] (born 7 May 1967) is an Australian mass murderer who pleaded guilty to murdering 35 people and injuring 23 others in the Port Arthur massacre

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On 13 November 2006, Bryant was moved into Hobart's Wilfred Lopes Centre,[3] a secure mental health unit run by the Tasmanian Department of Health and Human Services. The 35-bed unit for inmates with serious mental illness is staffed with doctors, nurses, and other support workers....Bryant was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome while incarcerated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant

A common practice is for people to pick through atrocities committed by people who purportedly were muslim and declare Islam as the common denominator.

Here's a novel exercise: can anyone see any 'common denominator' between the three individuals mentioned above? Does it change the way we view these 'common denominators?' Is it possible to say that in this case all three were affected by their mental illness, and that therefore in the one case of the muslim - Islam shouldn't be cited as the cause?

Is it possible that it can be misleading to sift through and find all the perpetrators who have an association with Islam - and in the process ignore other commonalities they may have had with other mass murderers - which may better explain their behaviour?

Put simply, can it be misleading, or even wrong to hold up two (or more) separate atrocities committed by muslims and declare "Islam is the common denominator - therefore Islam to blame"?

What is the common denominator for the 100 or so young Aussies currently raping and pillaging their way across the middle east?

ah.......
They are Human?

They share this trait with all the Murderers, sex offenders and tax evaders currently locked up over here(which greatly exceed the 100 mark). whats your point?

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Reply #44 - Aug 4^th, 2015 at 5:26pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 25^th, 2015 at 12:06pm:

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His family repeatedly described him as violent and mentally ill; his mental health had been called into question going back decades, and he spent time in a hospital receiving psychiatric care.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/us/lafayette-theater-shooting-john-houser.html...

Quote:

He was a man with serious mental illness, depressed and conflicted, a devout Muslim who regularly violated his faith by smoking marijuana and drinking heavily, but not anti-American or connected to ISIS.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-blames-pot-alcohol-chattanooga-shooters-troubles...

Quote:

Martin John Bryant[1] (born 7 May 1967) is an Australian mass murderer who pleaded guilty to murdering 35 people and injuring 23 others in the Port Arthur massacre

...

On 13 November 2006, Bryant was moved into Hobart's Wilfred Lopes Centre,[3] a secure mental health unit run by the Tasmanian Department of Health and Human Services. The 35-bed unit for inmates with serious mental illness is staffed with doctors, nurses, and other support workers....Bryant was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome while incarcerated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Bryant

A common practice is for people to pick through atrocities committed by people who purportedly were muslim and declare Islam as the common denominator.

Here's a novel exercise: can anyone see any 'common denominator' between the three individuals mentioned above? Does it change the way we view these 'common denominators?' Is it possible to say that in this case all three were affected by their mental illness, and that therefore in the one case of the muslim - Islam shouldn't be cited as the cause?

Is it possible that it can be misleading to sift through and find all the perpetrators who have an association with Islam - and in the process ignore other commonalities they may have had with other mass murderers - which may better explain their behaviour?

Put simply, can it be misleading, or even wrong to hold up two (or more) separate atrocities committed by muslims and declare "Islam is the common denominator - therefore Islam to blame"?

Put even more simply and more of a novel exercise I am sure.

How about showing some actual stats about how many commit what atrocities and what for. I am sure you will be unpleasantly surprised.

Nice try.

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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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