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Re: The Writing Challenge: Making your argument
Reply #60 - Jul 30th, 2015 at 11:01pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 6:35pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 6:23pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 6:19pm:
Gandalf has done exceptionally well and is to be complimented on it. I hope now some other posters who possess a modicum of skill can post their efforts.

ISnt it nice to see well-considered, substantial opinions being aired instead of the black-and-white two-liners we so often get?


Sure is, Longy. Will you be posting your Swedish professor’s views here as well?


just as soon as I get permission from Newsweek to quote him again.


That’s strange. Your post said reprinted with permission.

Why haven’t you posted it here? It’s your entry, no?
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Re: The Writing Challenge: Making your argument
Reply #61 - Jul 30th, 2015 at 11:05pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 7:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 6:35pm:
Ya see melielongtime, this is another reason I reckon you cannot write, even if your life depended on it.

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look, fake lawyer. Yuo
dont
get to come in after the fact an impose your own rules on something you didnt set up.  When you can actually write something of Gandalf or my standard, then come on back. Until then, order another fake degree so
you claim
youa re something else other than your embarrassing and obviously false lawyer claim.


Or is that just you spitting into your keyboard in anger?

Hilarious, wot?


the diiference is that when I type fast I make mistakes while when I take my time I write very, very well.


No worries, Longy. We’ll just have to take your word on that.

Let us know if you ever post any actual writing.

Sorry, typing.
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Re: The Writing Challenge: Making your argument
Reply #62 - Jul 30th, 2015 at 11:23pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 4:24pm:
In fact, the ways in which Islam has been permanently doomed to always be a force for evil are very easy to identify. Firstly there is the prophet himself: The religion of Islam has been inextricably bound to the effective worship of Prophet Muhammad (though muslims themselves will vehemently deny the charge of worship) - through passages in the Quran ordering muslims to follow his example and to revere him as "the best of men".    This clearly puts muslims who profess to follow a peaceful and tolerant Islam in a bind - as the historical Muhammad was undeniably anything but peaceful and tolerant: a typical brutal warmonger who once executed between 600 and 900 jews who posed a threat to his authoritarian rule in Medina. He would also provide some cognitive dissonance to those muslims who hold Islam as the greatest religion of sexual morality - having up to 12 wives (even the Quran limits muslims to 4 wives), including marriage to a 6 year old, which he consumated when she was 9. Not to mention countless sex slaves.

The second key way in which Islam has been 'locked in' as a force for evil, is through the uniquely Islamic way of setting in stone Islamic jurisprudence - or 'fiqh'. During the first few hundred years of Islam, contemporary Quranic and ahadith scholars got to work interpreting Islamic doctrine into earthly laws, to which every muslim was bound by. This process evolved over a long period, but there came a point where Islamic authorities unanimously agreed that there would be no more changes. The doors of 'ijtihad' (debating and altering Islamic law) were closed forever. This is rather unfortunate for muslims living in the modern world, pretending to stand for a 'progressive' Islam - who are inescapably bound to a barbaric medieval legal code, which consists among other things stoning for adultery and execution for apostasy. Of course it could be argued that there's nothing stopping the 'doors of Ijtihad' to be reopened, and Islamic law reformed to be more in line with modern values. But once again the proof is in Islam's history: if muslims could change it - why haven't they done so already? For all the cries of Islam being misunderstood for its barbarity by some muslims and their non-muslim apologists, the barbaric side of Islam has been remarkably resilient at maintaining its dominance as the "official" and accepted version.

I will conclude with a slight twist - and propose that muslims themselves are not incapable of reform, and they may even do in the name of "true" Islam. However such an exercise will necessarily require mental contortions of such magnitude, that their "Islam" becomes something that loses any sort of meaning. It will necessarily be an Islam that condemns the barbaric activities of their beloved Prophet - which is basically equivalent to a Christianity without a Chri


This one’s got it all - the 900 Jews in a day, Ayisha, evil, the lot. If you could fit that Jew being tortured for his gold in there, you’d have it all.

The excellent thing about this piece is its sincerity. This is definitely one for the Wiki. Why don’t you whack this on the anti-Islam board for discussion?
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Re: The Writing Challenge: Making your argument
Reply #63 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 2:14am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 7:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 6:35pm:
Ya see melielongtime, this is another reason I reckon you cannot write, even if your life depended on it.

Quote:
look, fake lawyer. Yuo
dont
get to come in after the fact an impose your own rules on something you didnt set up.  When you can actually write something of Gandalf or my standard, then come on back. Until then, order another fake degree so
you claim
youa re something else other than your embarrassing and obviously false lawyer claim.


Or is that just you spitting into your keyboard in anger?

Hilarious, wot?


the diiference is that when I type fast I make mistakes.


We’ll have Mother clean you up. Where’s your pants?
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Re: The Writing Challenge: Making your argument
Reply #64 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 9:01am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 8:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 7:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 6:35pm:
Ya see melielongtime, this is another reason I reckon you cannot write, even if your life depended on it.

Quote:
look, fake lawyer. Yuo
dont
get to come in after the fact an impose your own rules on something you didnt set up.  When you can actually write something of Gandalf or my standard, then come on back. Until then, order another fake degree so
you claim
youa re something else other than your embarrassing and obviously false lawyer claim.


Or is that just you spitting into your keyboard in anger?

Hilarious, wot?


the diiference is that when I type fast I make mistakes .



So, you're a speed typist then.



yep, just a bad one. Also I have a problem in one hand that tends to lead to mistakes if I type too fast.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Re: The Writing Challenge: Making your argument
Reply #65 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 9:28am
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 11:23pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 4:24pm:
In fact, the ways in which Islam has been permanently doomed to always be a force for evil are very easy to identify. Firstly there is the prophet himself: The religion of Islam has been inextricably bound to the effective worship of Prophet Muhammad (though muslims themselves will vehemently deny the charge of worship) - through passages in the Quran ordering muslims to follow his example and to revere him as "the best of men".    This clearly puts muslims who profess to follow a peaceful and tolerant Islam in a bind - as the historical Muhammad was undeniably anything but peaceful and tolerant: a typical brutal warmonger who once executed between 600 and 900 jews who posed a threat to his authoritarian rule in Medina. He would also provide some cognitive dissonance to those muslims who hold Islam as the greatest religion of sexual morality - having up to 12 wives (even the Quran limits muslims to 4 wives), including marriage to a 6 year old, which he consumated when she was 9. Not to mention countless sex slaves.

The second key way in which Islam has been 'locked in' as a force for evil, is through the uniquely Islamic way of setting in stone Islamic jurisprudence - or 'fiqh'. During the first few hundred years of Islam, contemporary Quranic and ahadith scholars got to work interpreting Islamic doctrine into earthly laws, to which every muslim was bound by. This process evolved over a long period, but there came a point where Islamic authorities unanimously agreed that there would be no more changes. The doors of 'ijtihad' (debating and altering Islamic law) were closed forever. This is rather unfortunate for muslims living in the modern world, pretending to stand for a 'progressive' Islam - who are inescapably bound to a barbaric medieval legal code, which consists among other things stoning for adultery and execution for apostasy. Of course it could be argued that there's nothing stopping the 'doors of Ijtihad' to be reopened, and Islamic law reformed to be more in line with modern values. But once again the proof is in Islam's history: if muslims could change it - why haven't they done so already? For all the cries of Islam being misunderstood for its barbarity by some muslims and their non-muslim apologists, the barbaric side of Islam has been remarkably resilient at maintaining its dominance as the "official" and accepted version.

I will conclude with a slight twist - and propose that muslims themselves are not incapable of reform, and they may even do in the name of "true" Islam. However such an exercise will necessarily require mental contortions of such magnitude, that their "Islam" becomes something that loses any sort of meaning. It will necessarily be an Islam that condemns the barbaric activities of their beloved Prophet - which is basically equivalent to a Christianity without a Chri


This one’s got it all - the 900 Jews in a day, Ayisha, evil, the lot. If you could fit that Jew being tortured for his gold in there, you’d have it all.

The excellent thing about this piece is its sincerity. This is definitely one for the Wiki. Why don’t you whack this on the anti-Islam board for discussion?



an carnal has yet another tantrum about yet another person who can write better than him.
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Re: The Writing Challenge: Making your argument
Reply #66 - Jul 31st, 2015 at 11:07am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 31st, 2015 at 9:01am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 8:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 7:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 6:35pm:
Ya see melielongtime, this is another reason I reckon you cannot write, even if your life depended on it.

Quote:
look, fake lawyer. Yuo
dont
get to come in after the fact an impose your own rules on something you didnt set up.  When you can actually write something of Gandalf or my standard, then come on back. Until then, order another fake degree so
you claim
youa re something else other than your embarrassing and obviously false lawyer claim.


Or is that just you spitting into your keyboard in anger?

Hilarious, wot?


the diiference is that when I type fast I make mistakes .



So, you're a speed typist then.



yep, just a bad one. Also I have a problem in one hand that tends to lead to mistakes if I type too fast.


You do tend to use that hand quite a lot, Longy.

Interested in using it to learn how to write? There are some stellar writers here.

G, do you have any advice for Longy to help him get started?
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