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Reply #75 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 6:29pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 6:18pm:

I am not supporting the boofhead cop. I am making the argument that the mere existence of all these guns makes incidents like this inevitable, just like all the school and cinema shootings are inevitable... and repeated.

Correct.

Every US cop would be aware of the appalling statistic of over 2 police officers killed every week in their country.

That's liable to make them a tad jumpy when someone they are questioning ...

1. Refuses to obey a direct order.

2. Resists arrest.

And is sitting inside a car where there are any number of places where a concealed weapon is stashed for quick use.

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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Senseless and totally unwarranted Reply #76 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 6:40pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 6:12pm: The dead dude was unarmed. Thats actually irrelevant, cops are quite within their rights to shoot unarmed offenders depending on the circumstances ... albeit this probably wasn't one of them.
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Reply #77 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 6:57pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 6:29pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 6:18pm:

I am not supporting the boofhead cop. I am making the argument that the mere existence of all these guns makes incidents like this inevitable, just like all the school and cinema shootings are inevitable... and repeated.

Correct.

Every US cop would be aware of the appalling statistic of over 2 police officers killed every week in their country.

That's liable to make them a tad jumpy when someone they are questioning ...

1. Refuses to obey a direct order.

2. Resists arrest.

And is sitting inside a car where there are any number of places where a concealed weapon is stashed for quick use.

Read it and weep - they are not 'killed' in the vast majority of case - they die by accident of illness...

https://www.odmp.org/search/year

Nothing in these figures posted by law enforcement justify any attitude of 'shoot first and ask questions later' - or justify the shooting deaths of unarmed people.

Even the dogs are included.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: Senseless and totally unwarranted Reply #78 - Jul 30^th, 2015 at 8:56pm Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 6:57pm: Read it and weep - they are not 'killed' in the vast majority of case - they die by accident of illness... link
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Reply #79 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 9:23am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 6:29pm:

Every US cop would be aware of the appalling statistic of over 2 police officers killed every week in their country.

That's liable to make them a tad jumpy when someone they are questioning ...

1. Refuses to obey a direct order.

2. Resists arrest.

And is sitting inside a car where there are any number of places where a concealed weapon is stashed for quick use.

Yep, it would certainly make them a tad jumpy alright.

It's no excuse for summary executions of unarmed citizens though.

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Reply #80 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 9:44am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 9:23am:

Yep, it would certainly make them a tad jumpy alright.

It's no excuse for summary executions of unarmed citizens though.

Who said it was?

If anything positive comes out of this, it will be the lesson to other blacks that if you've got nothing to hide - then obey the copper's instructions with a click of the heels and a salute and DON'T GIVE THE BUGGER ANY 'ATTITOOD!'

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Reply #81 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 9:58am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 4:07pm:

Steampipe wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 3:40pm:

Why are you claiming that no other evidence needs to be presented and the word of the prosecutor is enough to convict a person of a most serious crime.

I'm not.

However, this evidence won't do the cop any favours:

Notice how the driver is unarmed, and moving away from the police officer.

"Stop" Bang!

Not looking good for this guy.

Lets see this guy could not produce his licence despite being asked numerous times.
He tried to drive off dragging the Police officer about 30ft up the road,check out the parked silver car in front of them and the black mark on the road when the Police officer gets to his feet.
How far away did he end up from where he was stopped and how did he get there peccahead?

Justifiable homicide imo,if you try to drive off while dragging a Police officer along it isn't going to end well for you.

This video shows how the stop began unlike peccaheads edited version,the cop did nothing wrong.

Moral of this story,don't try to drive away from a traffic stop while dragging a cop down the road after not being able to produce a licence

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139846 Gender:	Re: Senseless and totally unwarranted Reply #82 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:10am Certainly no shortage of people defending alleged rapists and murderers in this forum. It's a shame.
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Reply #83 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:11am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 9:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 9:23am:

Yep, it would certainly make them a tad jumpy alright.

It's no excuse for summary executions of unarmed citizens though.

Who said it was?

If anything positive comes out of this, it will be the lesson to other blacks that if you've got nothing to hide - then obey the copper's instructions with a click of the heels and a salute and DON'T GIVE THE BUGGER ANY 'ATTITOOD!'

Will they have to repeat the lesson again for whites?

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Reply #85 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:14am

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 30^th, 2015 at 6:18pm:

Here in australia, the likelihood of anyone owning a gun is low enough but carrying on in public is nearly unheard of. POlice and others do not presume the existence of a gun and therefore act much less suspiciously.

I am not supporting the boofhead cop. I am making the argument that the mere existence of all these guns makes incidents like this inevitable, just like all the school and cinema shootings are inevitable... and repeated.

The Shooters and Fishers party sent me an email saying there are over 1 million firearm licence holders in Australia, I would say that is a significant number of firearm owners in Australia.

The senate inquiry into firearms said the Police do assume criminals have guns and the fact they don't come up as holding a licence does not make them any less cautious in dealing with criminals.

Schools have been gun free zones for a few decades,the cinema shootings have also occurred in gun free zones.

Are you saying the police should not have guns,how are they going to apprehend armed criminals without guns?

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Reply #86 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:16am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:11am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 9:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 9:23am:

Yep, it would certainly make them a tad jumpy alright.

It's no excuse for summary executions of unarmed citizens though.

Who said it was?

If anything positive comes out of this, it will be the lesson to other blacks that if you've got nothing to hide - then obey the copper's instructions with a click of the heels and a salute and DON'T GIVE THE BUGGER ANY 'ATTITOOD!'

Will they have to repeat the lesson again for whites?

You've long since lost the initiative and the moral authority in this thread, gregg, and so it's time for you to quit here and turn off the lights before you leave.

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Reply #87 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:17am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:14am:

It always takes a while before the uneditted version of events begins to shyly make its appearance in the media - if at all.

I found a longer version as well.

Peccahead thinks it's ok for criminals to drive off and drag Police officers down the road when they're asked for a licence and cannot produce one.

If he didn't try to drive away dragging a cop with him he would still be alive.

Peccahead is an apologist for criminals

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Reply #88 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:22am

Ah, now that I've exposed more supporters of alleged rapists and murderers, the lies start to come out.

Didn't take long.

I still find it quite interesting that those who support the alleged criminals are always on the "right" side of politics.

Why is it that they love criminals so much - especially the rapists and murderers?

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Reply #89 - Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:23am

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:11am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 9:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 9:23am:

Yep, it would certainly make them a tad jumpy alright.

It's no excuse for summary executions of unarmed citizens though.

Who said it was?

If anything positive comes out of this, it will be the lesson to other blacks that if you've got nothing to hide - then obey the copper's instructions with a click of the heels and a salute and DON'T GIVE THE BUGGER ANY 'ATTITOOD!'

Will they have to repeat the lesson again for whites?

You've long since lost the initiative and the moral authority in this thread, gregg, and so it's time for you to quit here and turn off the lights before you leave.

Come on Herbie, you're a proud racist aren't you?

Why are you hding in your burrow all of a sudden?

You've had a very bad week this week - let's hope things pick up next week.

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