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Oxfam says coal not good for poor
Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 2:46pm

As demonstrated by high electricity prices in Australia the cost of distribution and infrastructure bloats electricity retail prices.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/coal-not-good-for-poor-says-aid-...

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In the report intended to challenge the mining industry's "spin" about coal and poverty, Oxfam Australia says coal is ill-suited as a power source for most people living without electricity.

More than one billion people around the world don't have power and 84 per cent of those live in rural areas, the Powering Up Against Poverty report says.

It says the cost of extending electricity grids to those rural areas offsets any economic incentive of coal power, making renewable energy a cheaper option.

It's also quicker to install local solar panels than build coal plants.

"There are many examples of how local renewable energy is improving energy access, providing jobs and bringing new prosperity and providing the foundations for development," report author Simon Bradshaw told AAP.

Dr Bradshaw, who is Oxfam Australia's climate change policy adviser, says India's ambitious solar energy commitment is driven as much by making power more accessible as it is by avoiding emissions.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott last year declared coal "good for humanity" while opening a mine in central Queensland.

He believes coal will be the world's main energy source for decades to come.

The Oxfam report, which is critical of the prime minister's stance on coal, says: "(The industry) has found a loyal champion in the Australian government."

In addition to the negative consequences of extreme weather events because of global warming, it says, coal mines kill hundreds of thousands of people as a result of air pollution, and displace poor communities.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor Reply #1 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 2:53pm Oxfam should stick to famming Oxes.... They are getting very political
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor Reply #2 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 3:01pm Swagman wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 2:53pm: Oxfam should stick to famming Oxes.... They are getting very political Poverty is a communicable disease spread by politicians.
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Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor
Reply #3 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 4:20pm

Unforgiven wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 2:46pm:

As demonstrated by high electricity prices in Australia the cost of distribution and infrastructure bloats electricity retail prices.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/coal-not-good-for-poor-says-aid-...

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In the report intended to challenge the mining industry's "spin" about coal and poverty, Oxfam Australia says coal is ill-suited as a power source for most people living without electricity.

More than one billion people around the world don't have power and 84 per cent of those live in rural areas, the Powering Up Against Poverty report says.

It says the cost of extending electricity grids to those rural areas offsets any economic incentive of coal power, making renewable energy a cheaper option.

It's also quicker to install local solar panels than build coal plants.

"There are many examples of how local renewable energy is improving energy access, providing jobs and bringing new prosperity and providing the foundations for development," report author Simon Bradshaw told AAP.

Dr Bradshaw, who is Oxfam Australia's climate change policy adviser, says India's ambitious solar energy commitment is driven as much by making power more accessible as it is by avoiding emissions.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott last year declared coal "good for humanity" while opening a mine in central Queensland.

He believes coal will be the world's main energy source for decades to come.

The Oxfam report, which is critical of the prime minister's stance on coal, says: "(The industry) has found a loyal champion in the Australian government."

In addition to the negative consequences of extreme weather events because of global warming, it says, coal mines kill hundreds of thousands of people as a result of air pollution, and displace poor communities.

what an extaordinarily stupid thing to say. OXFAM will not be getting any money from me. World Vision will get it instead. there is so much wrong with the argument it is hard to know where to start. But bagging the current government is a pretty bad start. Next time they want funding for something - as they always do - will they not go to the govt because of their politics?

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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor Reply #4 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 4:42pm This sh!t just continues to get stupider
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor Reply #5 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 4:56pm Swagman wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 2:53pm: Oxfam should stick to famming Oxes.... They are getting very political All human relations is politics!
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor Reply #6 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 4:57pm innocentbystander. wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 4:42pm: This sh!t just continues to get stupider innocent still believes he was inherited to rule
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Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor
Reply #7 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 5:46pm

Unforgiven wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 2:46pm:

As demonstrated by high electricity prices in Australia the cost of distribution and infrastructure bloats electricity retail prices.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/coal-not-good-for-poor-says-aid-...

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In the report intended to challenge the mining industry's "spin" about coal and poverty, Oxfam Australia says coal is ill-suited as a power source for most people living without electricity.

More than one billion people around the world don't have power and 84 per cent of those live in rural areas, the Powering Up Against Poverty report says.

It says the cost of extending electricity grids to those rural areas offsets any economic incentive of coal power, making renewable energy a cheaper option.

It's also quicker to install local solar panels than build coal plants.

"There are many examples of how local renewable energy is improving energy access, providing jobs and bringing new prosperity and providing the foundations for development," report author Simon Bradshaw told AAP.

Dr Bradshaw, who is Oxfam Australia's climate change policy adviser, says India's ambitious solar energy commitment is driven as much by making power more accessible as it is by avoiding emissions.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott last year declared coal "good for humanity" while opening a mine in central Queensland.

He believes coal will be the world's main energy source for decades to come.

The Oxfam report, which is critical of the prime minister's stance on coal, says: "(The industry) has found a loyal champion in the Australian government."

In addition to the negative consequences of extreme weather events because of global warming, it says, coal mines kill hundreds of thousands of people as a result of air pollution, and displace poor communities.

So, Oxfam is as full of poo as the rest of the alarmist groups??

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Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor
Reply #8 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 5:47pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 5:46pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 2:46pm:

As demonstrated by high electricity prices in Australia the cost of distribution and infrastructure bloats electricity retail prices.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/coal-not-good-for-poor-says-aid-...

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In the report intended to challenge the mining industry's "spin" about coal and poverty, Oxfam Australia says coal is ill-suited as a power source for most people living without electricity.

More than one billion people around the world don't have power and 84 per cent of those live in rural areas, the Powering Up Against Poverty report says.

It says the cost of extending electricity grids to those rural areas offsets any economic incentive of coal power, making renewable energy a cheaper option.

It's also quicker to install local solar panels than build coal plants.

"There are many examples of how local renewable energy is improving energy access, providing jobs and bringing new prosperity and providing the foundations for development," report author Simon Bradshaw told AAP.

Dr Bradshaw, who is Oxfam Australia's climate change policy adviser, says India's ambitious solar energy commitment is driven as much by making power more accessible as it is by avoiding emissions.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott last year declared coal "good for humanity" while opening a mine in central Queensland.

He believes coal will be the world's main energy source for decades to come.

The Oxfam report, which is critical of the prime minister's stance on coal, says: "(The industry) has found a loyal champion in the Australian government."

In addition to the negative consequences of extreme weather events because of global warming, it says, coal mines kill hundreds of thousands of people as a result of air pollution, and displace poor communities.

So, Oxfam is as full of poo as the rest of the alarmist groups??

..gizmo was inherited to rule Cheesy

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Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor
Reply #9 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 6:00pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 5:47pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 5:46pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 2:46pm:

As demonstrated by high electricity prices in Australia the cost of distribution and infrastructure bloats electricity retail prices.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/coal-not-good-for-poor-says-aid-...

Quote:

In the report intended to challenge the mining industry's "spin" about coal and poverty, Oxfam Australia says coal is ill-suited as a power source for most people living without electricity.

More than one billion people around the world don't have power and 84 per cent of those live in rural areas, the Powering Up Against Poverty report says.

It says the cost of extending electricity grids to those rural areas offsets any economic incentive of coal power, making renewable energy a cheaper option.

It's also quicker to install local solar panels than build coal plants.

"There are many examples of how local renewable energy is improving energy access, providing jobs and bringing new prosperity and providing the foundations for development," report author Simon Bradshaw told AAP.

Dr Bradshaw, who is Oxfam Australia's climate change policy adviser, says India's ambitious solar energy commitment is driven as much by making power more accessible as it is by avoiding emissions.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott last year declared coal "good for humanity" while opening a mine in central Queensland.

He believes coal will be the world's main energy source for decades to come.

The Oxfam report, which is critical of the prime minister's stance on coal, says: "(The industry) has found a loyal champion in the Australian government."

In addition to the negative consequences of extreme weather events because of global warming, it says, coal mines kill hundreds of thousands of people as a result of air pollution, and displace poor communities.

So, Oxfam is as full of poo as the rest of the alarmist groups??

..gizmo was inherited to rule Cheesy

Well, yes that is true.... Shocked

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor
Reply #10 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 6:04pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 5:46pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 2:46pm:

As demonstrated by high electricity prices in Australia the cost of distribution and infrastructure bloats electricity retail prices.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/latest/coal-not-good-for-poor-says-aid-...

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In the report intended to challenge the mining industry's "spin" about coal and poverty, Oxfam Australia says coal is ill-suited as a power source for most people living without electricity.

More than one billion people around the world don't have power and 84 per cent of those live in rural areas, the Powering Up Against Poverty report says.

It says the cost of extending electricity grids to those rural areas offsets any economic incentive of coal power, making renewable energy a cheaper option.

It's also quicker to install local solar panels than build coal plants.

"There are many examples of how local renewable energy is improving energy access, providing jobs and bringing new prosperity and providing the foundations for development," report author Simon Bradshaw told AAP.

Dr Bradshaw, who is Oxfam Australia's climate change policy adviser, says India's ambitious solar energy commitment is driven as much by making power more accessible as it is by avoiding emissions.

Prime Minister Tony Abbott last year declared coal "good for humanity" while opening a mine in central Queensland.

He believes coal will be the world's main energy source for decades to come.

The Oxfam report, which is critical of the prime minister's stance on coal, says: "(The industry) has found a loyal champion in the Australian government."

In addition to the negative consequences of extreme weather events because of global warming, it says, coal mines kill hundreds of thousands of people as a result of air pollution, and displace poor communities.

So, Oxfam is as full of poo as the rest of the alarmist groups??

yes. Apparently the believe that extreme weather events are increasing (and they arent) and that coal mines are evil while simultaneously literally building the entirety of our infrastructure.

no donations to them any more.

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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor Reply #11 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 6:38pm longweekend58 wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 6:04pm: no donations to them any more. Oxfam don't accept donations of bile from malcontents. longweekend58 would never part with money for any cause.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor Reply #12 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 8:01pm Unforgiven wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 6:38pm: longweekend58 wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 6:04pm: no donations to them any more. Oxfam don't accept donations of bile from malcontents. longweekend58 would never part with money for any cause. you never have any money coz you wont work.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18066 Gender:	Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor Reply #13 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 9:01pm As compared to electricity prices in Europe? Of course Australia has large distances and small population.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49500 At my desk.	Re: Oxfam says coal not good for poor Reply #14 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 9:11pm Not sure what 'spin' they are responding to, but this one is pretty much a no-brainer. There are places in Australia where the cost is to prohibitive to hook up to the coal fired grid.
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