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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #105 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 7:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 7:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 12:36pm:

Poor FD - as we're about to see he's completely lost when people are not drawn into his troll-baiting.

Gandalf, this is what my criticisms of Islam boil down to, in order of what I consider to be 'most valid'

1) The words and deeds of Muhammed.

2) The views of Muslims on Islam (eg the Pew survey).

3) The actions of Muslims, where relevant.

How is this circular?

The "actions of the majority of Muslims" does not even make it onto the list. It does not even make sense. By that logic, driving on the right hand side of the road is more representative of Islam than just about anything else of relevance.

You accused me of circular logic, so how is this troll baiting? Just back up your claim, or else Karnal will have to start apologising for me.

But FD,
how can your really define the word Muslim?

You have Iran - an Islamic state, Saudi Arabia - another one,
you have ISIS & Turkey etc -

they all disagree about what it is to be a Muslim -
& want to fight each other to the death over it yet
they all claim they are Muslims.

If they say there are a muslim why not just believe them? I know it so inconvenient especially when they commit an atrocity for mo, the usual offenders will attempt to claim they are not a real muslim.

It am happy to take them at their word.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49426 At my desk.	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #106 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 7:43pm Bobby if you want to know if someone is a Muslim, ask them.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106881 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #107 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 7:46pm freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 7:43pm: Bobby if you want to know if someone is a Muslim, ask them. but - they all disagree about what it is to be a Muslim.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49426 At my desk.	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #108 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 8:05pm A Muslim is a follower of Islam.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106881 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #109 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 8:18pm freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 8:05pm: A Muslim is a follower of Islam. If being Islamic is so well defined then why do the Iranians hate the Saudis & vice versa?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96570	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #110 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 8:22pm freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 8:05pm: A Muslim is a follower of Islam. Yes, FD, but please use the correct formula in future.
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #111 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 8:37pm

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 7:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 12:36pm:

Poor FD - as we're about to see he's completely lost when people are not drawn into his troll-baiting.

Gandalf, this is what my criticisms of Islam boil down to, in order of what I consider to be 'most valid'

1) The words and deeds of Muhammed.

2) The views of Muslims on Islam (eg the Pew survey).

3) The actions of Muslims, where relevant.

How is this circular?

The "actions of the majority of Muslims" does not even make it onto the list. It does not even make sense. By that logic, driving on the right hand side of the road is more representative of Islam than just about anything else of relevance.

You accused me of circular logic, so how is this troll baiting? Just back up your claim, or else Karnal will have to start apologising for me.

You forgot porkies, FD, which are part and parcel of your criticism as you claim.

Google: taqiyya.

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LifeOrDeath Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1548	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #112 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 9:54pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 8:18pm: freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 8:05pm: A Muslim is a follower of Islam. If being Islamic is so well defined then why do the Iranians hate the Saudis & vice versa? Because Jesus was right when he said satans kingdom was divided against itself and it cannot stand.
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #113 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 11:02pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 9:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 8:18pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 8:05pm:

A Muslim is a follower of Islam.

If being Islamic is so well defined then why do the Iranians hate the Saudis & vice versa?

Because Jesus was right when he said satans kingdom was divided against itself and it cannot stand.

Exactly. Jesus blamed Islam too.

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LifeOrDeath Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1548	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #114 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 11:09pm Jesus never mentioned islam Pho he mentioned "satans kingdom" and false religions and false prophets. Those being the fairy tale mohammed and islam written in the book called the quran. No biggy.
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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #115 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 11:18pm hey karnal, just in case your confused by Why's refers to you as Pho, its because she thinks im you. rofl right?
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LifeOrDeath Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1548	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #116 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 11:25pm hey whywhy just in case you're confused when ever Karnal posts as Pho you just know its Karnal. rofl right?
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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #117 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 11:39pm see
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LifeOrDeath Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1548	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #118 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 11:51pm see times ten
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49426 At my desk.	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #119 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 6:59am Bobby. wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 8:18pm: freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 8:05pm: A Muslim is a follower of Islam. If being Islamic is so well defined then why do the Iranians hate the Saudis & vice versa? That's what being a Muslim is all about Bobby. Peace, love, and death for apostasy.
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