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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #135 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 12:58pm
 
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Just to reiterate WhyWhy, Karnal wants us to think Pho and Him are not the same ID and they just turn up and post together all the time and slip up every now and then.

I use the term "thinks" to crack a joke because clearly it doesn't.


Thanks Whywhy I'll take that on board. Grin Grin Grin
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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years  after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin Grin Grin Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.
 
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Reply #136 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:02pm
 
Karnal, care to wade in on this? Is this something that Why does often?

I feel like its somehow our responsabilty  to prove that we are different people, but also know that Why is pretty much logic proof, and watching her playing in paranoia land is kinda entertaining.

I guess its just a bit unnerving talking with a true head case.
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Reply #137 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:04pm
 
I always enjoy people chatting with themselves shyte this will convince everyone.
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #138 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:24pm
 
Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:02pm:
Karnal, care to wade in on this? Is this something that Why does often?

I feel like its somehow our responsabilty  to prove that we are different people, but also know that Why is pretty much logic proof, and watching her playing in paranoia land is kinda entertaining.

I guess its just a bit unnerving talking with a true head case.


Whywhy's pretending to be snippy for being called Matty, his old ID (Mattywisk). It's a bit tricky for Whywhy because he keeps getting banned for posting things that crash the board. I don't think he's meant to be here at all.

He's not a "true" headcase. I believe it's drug-induced, although there is definitely a mental health component, possibly bi-polar. His current issues are largely behavioural. If he keeps taking his meds and not going on any amphetamine benders, he should be fine.
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #139 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:29pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:24pm:
Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:02pm:
Karnal, care to wade in on this? Is this something that Why does often?

I feel like its somehow our responsabilty  to prove that we are different people, but also know that Why is pretty much logic proof, and watching her playing in paranoia land is kinda entertaining.

I guess its just a bit unnerving talking with a true head case.


Whywhy's pretending to be snippy for being called Matty, his old ID (Mattywisk). It's a bit tricky for Whywhy because he keeps getting banned for posting things that crash the board. I don't think he's meant to be here at all.

He's not a "true" headcase. I believe it's drug-induced, although there is definitely a mental health component, possibly bi-polar. His current issues are largely behavioural. If he keeps taking his meds and not going on any amphetamine benders, he should be fine.


Awe poor diddums is a widdle upset.

Well done that took you long enough Pho, Golf Clap.

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Reply #140 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:45pm
 
Matty seems gender confused too
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Reply #141 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:49pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:45pm:
Matty seems gender confused too


Matty/Medulla aka thousands of banned OzPol nics....is TOTALLY INSANE.

Hence why he chats to himself and/or chats utter nonsense.

Just laugh and post over his online static.




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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #142 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:51pm
 
Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:02pm:
Karnal, care to wade in on this? Is this something that Why does often?

I feel like its somehow our responsabilty  to prove that we are different people, but also know that Why is pretty much logic proof, and watching her playing in paranoia land is kinda entertaining.

I guess its just a bit unnerving talking with a true head case.


It's taken you THIS long to figure that out?

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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #143 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:55pm
 
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Why? Because any attempts to point out that most muslims have a different take on those words and deeeds to you will be dismissed and you will just come back to the same argument as you started with... over and over again- eg:


You think it was good. I think it was bad. I think your efforts to justify it reveals the evil of Islam. That is not a circular argument Gandalf.

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Debating religion from a rational point of view is by definition circular - its nothing unique to Islam. Ask any religious person why they "know" the tenets of their religion are true, and it will only ever come down to "because I believe it to be so". Its a matter of faith, not rationality.


That's why it only gets second prize in the most retarded competition Gandalf.

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I admit you perked my interest with this point S - because it got me thinking what does it actually mean by "nuffin to do wiv [insert religion/ideology]". To me its an extremely loaded term to use, and I'll point out I don't believe I've ever used it myself (as in "ISIS has nothing to do with Islam"). Or if I have, I'll probably take it back because its rather silly when you think about it. Of course it has something to do with Islam - and of course the crusades had something to do with Christianity, by simple virtue of the fact that in both instances the respective religions were invoked as justification.


It looks like the corollary of your "actions of the majority of Muslims" argument.

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But all thats rather meaningless. It misses the point I was talking about - and that is what Islam represents,


You have been arguing about what represents Islam - eg the actions of the majority of Muslims.

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It is simply an illogical argument to say that Islam is inherently violent because of how a minority behaves - while ignoring how the majority behave


It is inherently violent because Muhammed was a violent man and it forces even people like you to excuse and justify that violence.

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A majority of Germans voted for the nazis or the centrist parties that were in coalition with them. The nazis weren't exactly rejected by a "vast majority" of Germans were they?


The majority of Germans did not gas the Jews. The majority of Germans did not vote for gassing Jews. Does that mean gassing Jews has nothing to do with Nazism?

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As you say, G, Religion is the domestic justification. Expansive wars are power grabs. They are always justified by religious or ideological mumbo-jumbo. Christianity, Empire, Civilization, Freeeeedom.


You left out Caliphate Karnal. Was Islam the domestic justification for the Caliphate, or was the Caliphate the justification for Islam?
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #144 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:56pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:51pm:
Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:02pm:
Karnal, care to wade in on this? Is this something that Why does often?

I feel like its somehow our responsabilty  to prove that we are different people, but also know that Why is pretty much logic proof, and watching her playing in paranoia land is kinda entertaining.

I guess its just a bit unnerving talking with a true head case.


It's taken you THIS long to figure that out?



Karnal has way more brains than to crawl into bed with the likes of you setty with your medulla obsession.

I love the way medulla used to make an utter fool out of you on yahoo and you would come crashing down every time. Grin Grin Grin

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1429877606/315#315
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #145 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:01pm
 
LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 12:58pm:
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Just to reiterate WhyWhy, Karnal wants us to think Pho and Him are not the same ID and they just turn up and post together all the time and slip up every now and then.

I use the term "thinks" to crack a joke because clearly it doesn't.


Thanks Whywhy I'll take that on board. Grin Grin Grin


Whywhy multi banned troll talking to itself.

Lithium issues????
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #146 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:05pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:55pm:
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Why? Because any attempts to point out that most muslims have a different take on those words and deeeds to you will be dismissed and you will just come back to the same argument as you started with... over and over again- eg:


You think it was good. I think it was bad. I think your efforts to justify it reveals the evil of Islam. That is not a circular argument Gandalf.

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Debating religion from a rational point of view is by definition circular - its nothing unique to Islam. Ask any religious person why they "know" the tenets of their religion are true, and it will only ever come down to "because I believe it to be so". Its a matter of faith, not rationality.


That's why it only gets second prize in the most retarded competition Gandalf.

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I admit you perked my interest with this point S - because it got me thinking what does it actually mean by "nuffin to do wiv [insert religion/ideology]". To me its an extremely loaded term to use, and I'll point out I don't believe I've ever used it myself (as in "ISIS has nothing to do with Islam"). Or if I have, I'll probably take it back because its rather silly when you think about it. Of course it has something to do with Islam - and of course the crusades had something to do with Christianity, by simple virtue of the fact that in both instances the respective religions were invoked as justification.


It looks like the corollary of your "actions of the majority of Muslims" argument.

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But all thats rather meaningless. It misses the point I was talking about - and that is what Islam represents,


You have been arguing about what represents Islam - eg the actions of the majority of Muslims.

Quote:
It is simply an illogical argument to say that Islam is inherently violent because of how a minority behaves - while ignoring how the majority behave


It is inherently violent because Muhammed was a violent man and it forces even people like you to excuse and justify that violence.

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A majority of Germans voted for the nazis or the centrist parties that were in coalition with them. The nazis weren't exactly rejected by a "vast majority" of Germans were they?


The majority of Germans did not gas the Jews. The majority of Germans did not vote for gassing Jews. Does that mean gassing Jews has nothing to do with Nazism?

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As you say, G, Religion is the domestic justification. Expansive wars are power grabs. They are always justified by religious or ideological mumbo-jumbo. Christianity, Empire, Civilization, Freeeeedom.


You left out Caliphate Karnal. Was Islam the domestic justification for the Caliphate, or was the Caliphate the justification for Islam?


Anyways nutters out of the way, back on topic.
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #147 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:06pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:51pm:
Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:02pm:
Karnal, care to wade in on this? Is this something that Why does often?

I feel like its somehow our responsabilty  to prove that we are different people, but also know that Why is pretty much logic proof, and watching her playing in paranoia land is kinda entertaining.

I guess its just a bit unnerving talking with a true head case.


It's taken you THIS long to figure that out?



I havn't spent that much time on this site, up till meeting Why there had been many people who's opinions I disagreed with, but they all possessed the ability to communicate rationally.

Why is first genuine nutter Iv'e met here. she actually reminds of my mum when she's manic/bi polar.
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #148 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:09pm
 
LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:56pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:51pm:
Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7th, 2015 at 1:02pm:
Karnal, care to wade in on this? Is this something that Why does often?

I feel like its somehow our responsabilty  to prove that we are different people, but also know that Why is pretty much logic proof, and watching her playing in paranoia land is kinda entertaining.

I guess its just a bit unnerving talking with a true head case.


It's taken you THIS long to figure that out?



Karnal has way more brains than to crawl into bed with the likes of you setty with your medulla obsession.

I love the way medulla used to make an utter fool out of you on yahoo and you would come crashing down every time. Grin Grin Grin

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1429877606/315#315


I'm happily married and so is Karnal.

You're still either trolling forums or trying to hack them. Aren't you sick of it yet? 10yrs and you're the same insane online flamer/troll leper you always were.

Anyway...I suppose you're good to laugh at.
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Reply #149 - Aug 7th, 2015 at 2:13pm
 
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That link says it all really. I think it covers you nicely. You are still the same old lonely bitter elderly greek woman you were 10 years ago. Just older and sadder.

It might be pertinent you take your nonsense elsewhere as you are off topic.
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