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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96504	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #90 - Aug 5^th, 2015 at 9:18pm polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 6:45pm: Thats not a description of a democracy FD. Islam == a follower of Islam. Iraq == the next South Korea.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96504	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #91 - Aug 5^th, 2015 at 9:29pm freediver wrote on Aug 5^th, 2015 at 7:37pm: I guess it is easier for you when I am saying things without actually saying them. Ah.
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #92 - Aug 5^th, 2015 at 10:40pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 5^th, 2015 at 7:37am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 8:06pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 7:59pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 7:49pm:

Nothing was cherry picked

Right, just so we're clear here: quoting one verse telling muslims to instill fear in the ranks of their enemy - without mentioning the verse preceding it saying it only applies to enemies who repeatedly break treaties, and without mentioning the verse after ordering muslims to accept any overtures of peace by that enemy - isn't cherry picking?

Please confirm this is the case matty, before we go any further.

Write those ones off as cherry picking, I couldn't care less.

- I guess thats as close to an admission of defeat as we'll get.

Ah the royal we makes a showing when you have nothing. You still cannot refute the scriptures posted from the quran that proves every muslim is a wannbe homicidal maniac.

Nice try, I'll take your non responsiveness as an admission you have been proven wrong. As usual. No need for a royal 'we'. The quran has spoken.

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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #93 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 12:44am This debate ends up at its beginning, but it doesn't have anything like the elegance of a circle. more like a fractal.
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #94 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 7:48am

freediver wrote on Aug 5^th, 2015 at 7:37pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 5^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 5^th, 2015 at 5:15pm:

Feel free to point out the circularity in what I am actually saying Gandalf.

Here FD demonstrates how those who suffer from this debilitating condition known as Retarded Circular Argument Syndrome (RCAS) have lost the ability to comprehend the most basic logic, in addition to possessing an irresistible urge to respond to things they so obviously haven't been able to comprehend - combined with a near super-human level of stamina to labor the same inane, illogical points for months on end.

That's odd. You were more than happy to critique my argument before I told you what it was. I guess it is easier for you when I am saying things without actually saying them.

- oh and not forgetting his selective amnesia.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49407 At my desk.	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #95 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 12:10pm You are going round in circles Gandalf. Perhaps you should try quoting where you think I have made a circular argument.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #96 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 12:36pm Poor FD - as we're about to see he's completely lost when people are not drawn into his troll-baiting.
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Reply #97 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 1:13pm

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Poor FD

How is he poor, Gandalf? Are you trying to put words into FD's mouth again?

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as we're about to see

Did you study a Muslim course on fortune-telling?

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he's completely lost

How would you suggest he becomes "found"?" Islamic brainwashing?

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when people are not

Which people? Muslims or their spineless apologists?

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drawn into his troll-baiting

Who started this thread, Gandalf?

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #98 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 1:21pm freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 12:10pm: You are going round in circles Gandalf. Perhaps you should try quoting where you think I have made a circular argument. Your entire Islamophobia is circular FD!
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #99 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 2:00pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 1:13pm:

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Poor FD

How is he poor, Gandalf? Are you trying to put words into FD's mouth again?

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as we're about to see

Did you study a Muslim course on fortune-telling?

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he's completely lost

How would you suggest he becomes "found"?" Islamic brainwashing?

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when people are not

Which people? Muslims or their spineless apologists?

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drawn into his troll-baiting

Who started this thread, Gandalf?

urghh stop that K - one FD is enough.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #100 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 2:56pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 2:00pm:

Karnal wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 1:13pm:

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Poor FD

How is he poor, Gandalf? Are you trying to put words into FD's mouth again?

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as we're about to see

Did you study a Muslim course on fortune-telling?

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he's completely lost

How would you suggest he becomes "found"?" Islamic brainwashing?

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when people are not

Which people? Muslims or their spineless apologists?

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drawn into his troll-baiting

Who started this thread, Gandalf?

urghh stop that K - one FD is enough.

Put him in the Wiki for evasion, FD.

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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #101 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 5:35pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:34pm:

claim: Islam is innately violent - and I have the actions of muslims to prove it

response: the majority of muslims are not violent

claim: they don't count - its the minority who are carrying out Allah's violent commands

resposne: how can you claim them to be representing "true" Islam if they are in the minority?

claim: because they are carrying out Allah's violent commands.

and round and round we go...

What your supposed 'argument' doesn't address (deliberately?) is :

claim: Islam is innately violent - and I have the actions of muslims to prove it - they commit their violence strictly in accordance with their scripture.

This is what is meant by innate violence. Violence in the name of Islam is built into Islam.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: The most retarded circular argument Reply #102 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 5:56pm thanks for proving my point S.
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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #103 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 7:28pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 12:36pm:

Poor FD - as we're about to see he's completely lost when people are not drawn into his troll-baiting.

Gandalf, this is what my criticisms of Islam boil down to, in order of what I consider to be 'most valid'

1) The words and deeds of Muhammed.

2) The views of Muslims on Islam (eg the Pew survey).

3) The actions of Muslims, where relevant.

How is this circular?

The "actions of the majority of Muslims" does not even make it onto the list. It does not even make sense. By that logic, driving on the right hand side of the road is more representative of Islam than just about anything else of relevance.

You accused me of circular logic, so how is this troll baiting? Just back up your claim, or else Karnal will have to start apologising for me.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Re: The most retarded circular argument
Reply #104 - Aug 6^th, 2015 at 7:32pm

freediver wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 7:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 12:36pm:

Poor FD - as we're about to see he's completely lost when people are not drawn into his troll-baiting.

Gandalf, this is what my criticisms of Islam boil down to, in order of what I consider to be 'most valid'

1) The words and deeds of Muhammed.

2) The views of Muslims on Islam (eg the Pew survey).

3) The actions of Muslims, where relevant.

How is this circular?

The "actions of the majority of Muslims" does not even make it onto the list. It does not even make sense. By that logic, driving on the right hand side of the road is more representative of Islam than just about anything else of relevance.

You accused me of circular logic, so how is this troll baiting? Just back up your claim, or else Karnal will have to start apologising for me.

But FD,
how can your really define the word Muslim?

You have Iran - an Islamic state, Saudi Arabia - another one,
you have ISIS & Turkey etc -

they all disagree about what it is to be a Muslim -
& want to fight each other to the death over it yet
they all claim they are Muslims.

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