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Reply #30 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 10:31am

Nope.

They were all given the opportunity to disown the betrayal and repledge their loyalty to their city.

But here's a timely analogy:

do you support the bombing of Hiroshima? Did all the little kiddies that were burnt alive in an instant get an individual trial?

But more importantly, do you believe that anyone who does believe it was justified can also be a proponent of peace and tolerance? Personally I think it was wicked terrorism, but I don't doubt the sincerity of anyone who has a different perspective.

And don't bring in the "oh but the hiroshima bombers were not the founders and prophets of their religion" argument - its still a valid analogy to use.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #31 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 11:13am

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 10:31am:

Nope.

They were all given the opportunity to disown the betrayal and repledge their loyalty to their city.

But here's a timely analogy:

do you support the bombing of Hiroshima? Did all the little kiddies that were burnt alive in an instant get an individual trial?

But more importantly, do you believe that anyone who does believe it was justified can also be a proponent of peace and tolerance? Personally I think it was wicked terrorism, but I don't doubt the sincerity of anyone who has a different perspective.

And don't bring in the "oh but the hiroshima bombers were not the founders and prophets of their religion" argument - its still a valid analogy to use.

'Hiroshima' and 'Nagasaki' are estimated to have saved countless more lives than died in these bombings - both Japanese and allies.

I somehow doubt the ISIS and other Islam-inspired slaughterings we've been witnessing these past few years has had anything to do with saving lives.

Avoiding being honest in order to give a spurious 'credibility' to a pet notion of yours does not become you, gandalf. It really is time you divested yourself of this penchant for 'taqiyyah' whenever you find yourself being painted into a corner by your opponents.

"... little kiddies .... ". Please, spare us such cheap, tear-jerking propagandising.

Countless parents both Japanese and American had their sons come home to them only as a result of those strategic bombings.

'Terrorism' indeed. Improve your game, please, gandalf.

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Reply #32 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 11:36am

And for those here who don't read a book from one end of the year to the next - all over Japan the Japanese had coal mines that were worked by allied PoWs in horrendous conditions, and next to every air-vent above these mines there were 44-gallon drums of petrol placed there by the prisoners themselves under orders of their captors.

The Japanese camp commanders had orders that in the event of 'the enemy' making landfall on Japanese soil - the prisoners were to be herded into the coal tunnels and the drums of petrol were then to be poured down the ventilation shafts and set alight.

It was only 'Hiroshima' and 'Nagasaki' that prevented this from happening.

"... little kiddies ... ".

You should be embarrassed, gandalf, to utter such cheap nonsense.

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Reply #33 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 11:58am

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 11:13am:

I somehow doubt the ISIS and other Islam-inspired slaughterings we've been witnessing these past few years has had anything to do with saving lives.

Herb you've just regurgitated some well-worn utilitarian justification for slaughtering tens of thousands of innocents in the blink of an eye. Now given that before every grizzy execution video released by ISIS they show footage of previous air strikes and mangled kids and explain how those about to be executed were responsible, and that such executions will prevent more deadly air strikes in the future - exactly what is the difference? Apart from the differences in scale of course (Islamists can only dream of inflicting the level of death and terror the US has inflicted over the years). Both of you are justifying terror and slaughter in the name of saving lives, and both of you probably believe it. Personally I think you are both full of crap, but it doesn't mean you are not sincere in your belief.

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

"... little kiddies ... ".

You should be embarrassed, gandalf, to utter such cheap nonsense.

Truth hurts don't it?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #34 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 12:32pm

Personally I think you are full of crap. You babble on about the poor muslim terrorists like the poor muslims never started it in the first place. I personally think they should let ISIS top the lot of you muslims in the middle east then go in later and finish them off. At least everyone else will be able to live in peace. Thats the difference civilized man in the civilized world is happy to live in peace. They don't need to follow a fictitious prophet and book that tells them to spread hatred and murder. They just kick their asses every time the muslim tries to implement it.

Cry us all a river, muslims have no one else to blame except themselves.

The truth doesn't hurt you as you are ignorant of it by choice.

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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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Reply #35 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 12:46pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 12:32pm:

Personally I think you are full of crap. You babble on about the poor muslim terrorists like the poor muslims never started it in the first place. I personally think they should let ISIS top the lot of you muslims in the middle east then go in later and finish them off. At least everyone else will be able to live in peace. Thats the difference civilized man in the civilized world is happy to live in peace. They don't need to follow a fictitious prophet and book that tells them to spread hatred and murder. They just kick their asses every time the muslim tries to implement it.

Cry us all a river, muslims have no one else to blame except themselves.

The truth doesn't hurt you as you are ignorant of it by choice.

Christian hypocrisy overwhelming. Advocates genocide to allow her to "Live in peace", Cry

Nice fruit Why, so much love and compassion.

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Reply #36 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 12:56pm

Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 12:46pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 12:32pm:

Personally I think you are full of crap. You babble on about the poor muslim terrorists like the poor muslims never started it in the first place. I personally think they should let ISIS top the lot of you muslims in the middle east then go in later and finish them off. At least everyone else will be able to live in peace. Thats the difference civilized man in the civilized world is happy to live in peace. They don't need to follow a fictitious prophet and book that tells them to spread hatred and murder. They just kick their asses every time the muslim tries to implement it.

Cry us all a river, muslims have no one else to blame except themselves.

The truth doesn't hurt you as you are ignorant of it by choice.

Christian hypocrisy overwhelming. Advocates genocide to allow her to "Live in peace", Cry

Nice fruit Why, so much love and compassion.

Where did Christinity do that Karnel ?

You are the hypocrite, you call yourself a Christian well a Catholic actually. Not bad for a Muslim eh. Grin

What is Vile is the atrocities done because of Islam instructing muslims to commit it. Now thats sickening and you wonder why we are all sick and tired of you lot in our countries trashing the place and all you can do is sook about not being accepted well get used to it. Grin

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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

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Reply #37 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:15pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 11:58am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 11:13am:

I somehow doubt the ISIS and other Islam-inspired slaughterings we've been witnessing these past few years has had anything to do with saving lives.

Herb you've just regurgitated some well-worn utilitarian justification for slaughtering tens of thousands of innocents in the blink of an eye. Now given that before every grizzy execution video released by ISIS they show footage of previous air strikes and mangled kids and explain how those about to be executed were responsible, and that such executions will prevent more deadly air strikes in the future - exactly what is the difference? Apart from the differences in scale of course (Islamists can only dream of inflicting the level of death and terror the US has inflicted over the years). Both of you are justifying terror and slaughter in the name of saving lives, and both of you probably believe it. Personally I think you are both full of crap, but it doesn't mean you are not sincere in your belief.

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

"... little kiddies ... ".

You should be embarrassed, gandalf, to utter such cheap nonsense.

Truth hurts don't it?

You're a better escape artist than Houdini was. If I was running a circus I'd have you as one of my main acts. And on that theme - you've risen from the 'dead' here after being crucified on these forum pages more times than Christ ever did after Calvary ... Cool

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Reply #38 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:15pm

sorry, you misunderstood me why..I wasn't saying that christianity is hypocritcal.

iI was saying you are a hypocrite.

You impune others who plead understanding of others for not being a christian , and advocate genocide while acting as though you are somehow a follower of christ.

i know he threw the money lenders out of the temple, im pretty sure he never advocated genocide.

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Reply #39 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:26pm

Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

sorry, you misunderstood me why..I wasn't saying that christianity is hypocritcal.

iI was saying you are a hypocrite.

You impune others who plead understanding of others for not being a christian , and advocate genocide while acting as though you are somehow a follower of christ.

i know he threw the money lenders out of the temple, im pretty sure he never advocated genocide.

No you were implying you are the hypocrite.

Yea ole Islamic genocide. If muslims try genocide and someone comes and kicks there ass it is genocide by the other team. Not genocide as promoted in the Quran. Never Cheesy

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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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Reply #40 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:26pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 11:58am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 11:13am:

I somehow doubt the ISIS and other Islam-inspired slaughterings we've been witnessing these past few years has had anything to do with saving lives.

Herb you've just regurgitated some well-worn utilitarian justification for slaughtering tens of thousands of innocents in the blink of an eye. Now given that before every grizzy execution video released by ISIS they show footage of previous air strikes and mangled kids and explain how those about to be executed were responsible, and that such executions will prevent more deadly air strikes in the future - exactly what is the difference? Apart from the differences in scale of course (Islamists can only dream of inflicting the level of death and terror the US has inflicted over the years). Both of you are justifying terror and slaughter in the name of saving lives, and both of you probably believe it. Personally I think you are both full of crap, but it doesn't mean you are not sincere in your belief.

Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

"... little kiddies ... ".

You should be embarrassed, gandalf, to utter such cheap nonsense.

Truth hurts don't it?

You're a better escape artist than Houdini was. If I was running a circus I'd have you as one of my main acts. And on that theme - you've risen from the 'dead' here after being crucified on these forum pages more times than Christ ever did after Calvary ... Cool

Aint that the truth.

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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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Reply #41 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:36pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

sorry, you misunderstood me why..I wasn't saying that christianity is hypocritcal.

iI was saying you are a hypocrite.

You impune others who plead understanding of others for not being a christian , and advocate genocide while acting as though you are somehow a follower of christ.

i know he threw the money lenders out of the temple, im pretty sure he never advocated genocide.

No you were implying you are the hypocrite.

Yea ole Islamic genocide. If muslims try genocide and someone comes and kicks there ass it is genocide by the other team. Not genocide as promoted in the Quran. Never Cheesy

It's like someone is running a random word generator through a logic screen to prevent anything rational from accidentally appearing.

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Reply #43 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 2:45pm

Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:36pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:15pm:

sorry, you misunderstood me why..I wasn't saying that christianity is hypocritcal.

iI was saying you are a hypocrite.

You impune others who plead understanding of others for not being a christian , and advocate genocide while acting as though you are somehow a follower of christ.

i know he threw the money lenders out of the temple, im pretty sure he never advocated genocide.

No you were implying you are the hypocrite.

Yea ole Islamic genocide. If muslims try genocide and someone comes and kicks there ass it is genocide by the other team. Not genocide as promoted in the Quran. Never Cheesy

It

s like someone is running a random word generator through a logic screen to prevent anything rational from accidentally appearing.

I feel the quran is like that too at least we agree on something I guess. I am starting to warm towards you.

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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

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Reply #44 - Aug 9^th, 2015 at 3:17pm

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do you support the bombing of Hiroshima? Did all the little kiddies that were burnt alive in an instant get an individual trial?

Gandalf, contrary to your repeated assertions, this massacre did not take place in the context of an ongoing war. The war was over. The Meccan army had gone home before Muhammed even laid siege to the tribe of Jews. That siege had come to an end, without casualty, before Muhammed got round to slaughtering them, because they had surrendered unconditionally.

The bombing of Hiroshima did take place in an ongoing war. There was no possible way to offer them a trial first because they were not under the authority of the Americans. Nor was it justified as punishment. You however frequently do justify the slaughter of this Jewish tribe as punishment for treason. I do realise that you offer a long list of often contradictory excuses and justifications, but you can hardly use your own tapdancing as an argument.

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