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Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering
Reply #105 - Feb 19^th, 2017 at 8:55am

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Way to water down you original idiotic claim that my denial of the great earth-shattering "genocide" of a few hundred jewish males 1400 years ago is just as racist as denying the slaughter of 6 million jews within the last century.

I did not water it down. I said it was actually more racist. Neither the scale of the holocaust nor the relative timing changes this. The middle east today is what Europe would have ended up looking like had Hitler succeeded in establishing his thousand year reich.

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Nazis have a little bit more of a challenge in apologising for the holocaust - as they have to justify the killing of men women and children alike. Whereas I only have to "justify" the execution of actual military aged warriors who actually took up arms against the state they pledged loyalty to.

How many Muslims "actually" died when these Jews "actually" took up arms against them?

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Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering
Reply #106 - Feb 19^th, 2017 at 9:02am

freediver wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 8:55am:

How many Muslims "actually" died when these Jews "actually" took up arms against them?

not an argument FD.

Are you saying the genocide would have been slightly more justified if only the traitors had succeeded in killing some muslims? Is treachery less of a crime when the traitors prove to be incompetent?

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering
Reply #107 - Feb 19^th, 2017 at 11:18am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 8:54am:

freediver wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 8:35am:

It is qualitatively the same thing. Your excuses are in some ways even more racist. I have never heard a Nazi argue the Jews were literally a mindless collective without individual personality.

I don't even know where to begin with this.

Nazis have a little bit more of a challenge in apologising for the holocaust - as they have to justify the killing of men women and children alike. Whereas I only have to "justify" the execution of actual military aged warriors who actually took up arms against the state they pledged loyalty to.

Wacist.

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Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering
Reply #108 - Feb 19^th, 2017 at 12:59pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 9:02am:

freediver wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 8:55am:

How many Muslims "actually" died when these Jews "actually" took up arms against them?

not an argument FD.

Are you saying the genocide would have been slightly more justified if only the traitors had succeeded in killing some muslims? Is treachery less of a crime when the traitors prove to be incompetent?

When you "actually" take up arms against someone in the context of war, you actually kill someone, otherwise you have not "actually" taken up arms against them.

This is merely more deliberately misleading Islamic spin from a racist Muslim promoting genocide, like your recent efforts to describe the size of the tribe as "a few hundred" as an excuse for your "mindless collective" outgroup homogenisation effort. There was not a single death in any sort of armed conflict. All there was was Muhammed slaughtering 800 innocent people.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96360	Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering Reply #109 - Feb 19^th, 2017 at 2:28pm It's back up to 800 again. Collective, hive-mind out-group homogeneity with no individuality whatsoever. How wacist can you get?
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Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering
Reply #110 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 2:44pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 19^th, 2017 at 8:13am:

In summary - it is not racist to question an obscure account of a massacre of a few hundred military aged men that happened 1400 years ago, and it is not even racist to argue that such mass-execution of military aged men who took up arms against the state they pledged loyalty to - could be justified.

How did they pledge loyalty to it?

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

not speaking out against human rights atrocities = apologism for said atrocities grendel. Especially among trade partners. Thats the support for my claim.

Hypocrite.

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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering Reply #111 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 2:54pm How much does Freediver get paid for posting propaganda?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96360	Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering Reply #112 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:27pm Unforgiven wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 2:54pm: How much does Freediver get paid for posting propaganda? Nothing. And that's the beauty of it. Cunning, no?
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	How much is Freediver paid for propaganda posts? Reply #113 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:29pm Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:27pm: Unforgiven wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 2:54pm: How much does Freediver get paid for posting propaganda? Nothing. And that's the beauty of it. Cunning, no? Freediver's a cheap shill?
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Re: How much is Freediver paid for propaganda posts?
Reply #114 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:41pm

Unforgiven wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:27pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 2:54pm:

How much does Freediver get paid for posting propaganda?

Nothing.

And that's the beauty of it.

Cunning, no?

Freediver's a cheap shill?

What's with this shill word? Everybody's saying it.

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Re: How much is Freediver paid for propaganda posts?
Reply #115 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:50pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:41pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:27pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 2:54pm:

How much does Freediver get paid for posting propaganda?

Nothing.

And that's the beauty of it.

Cunning, no?

Freediver's a cheap shill?

What's with this shill word? Everybody's saying it.

It must be Freediver's real name.

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Re: How much is Freediver paid for propaganda posts?
Reply #116 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 4:51pm

Unforgiven wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:50pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:41pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 3:27pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 2:54pm:

How much does Freediver get paid for posting propaganda?

Nothing.

And that's the beauty of it.

Cunning, no?

Freediver's a cheap shill?

What's with this shill word? Everybody's saying it.

It must be Freediver's real name.

I see. Mark Shill. Sustainable fishing and carbon tax enthusiast.

Once we sort out the Muselman, FD can start talking about his real passion again.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering Reply #117 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 5:16pm I thought I already explained to one of you dopes that Islam isn't a race...
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96360	Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering Reply #118 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 5:18pm Grendel wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 5:16pm: I thought I already explained to one of you dopes that Islam isn't a race... What about shills?
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: How much is Freediver paid for propaganda posts? Reply #119 - Mar 4^th, 2017 at 6:05pm Grendel wrote on Mar 4^th, 2017 at 5:16pm: I thought I already explained to one of you dopes that Islam isn't a race... You thought you thought. You're so deluded and whiney you get dismissed from every thread.
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