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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering Reply #345 - May 13^th, 2017 at 8:56pm freediver wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 8:04pm: Yes I thought that was particularly good example of your self delusion Oh so its self delusion now? Cause just before you described it as me lying. What is it FD?
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Reply #346 - May 13^th, 2017 at 8:57pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 8:54pm:

freediver wrote on May 7^th, 2017 at 8:04pm:

the assumption that "enslaving the women" is a synonym for sex slavery.

In Islam's case it is.

The world according to you.

Just because I disagree with this assertion doesn't make me a liar FD.

What makes you a liar is arguing that the enslavement of those women was justified by the fact that the entire adult male population had been slaughtered by Muhammad at the same time as insisting you never believed the slaughter happened. Perhaps I failed to mention that?

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Reply #347 - May 13^th, 2017 at 9:14pm

I don't believe that slaughter of the Banu Qurayza happened - and therefore don't believe the enslavement of their wives and children happened. But that doesn't stop me from making an academic argument justifying it - just like it hasn't stopped me from making an academic argument justifying the fictional mass execution.

Your reasoning for calling me a liar is getting more and more tenuous by the day. Its almost as if you have some perverse need to use that petty insult.

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Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering
Reply #348 - May 13^th, 2017 at 9:55pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 9:14pm:

I don't believe that slaughter of the Banu Qurayza happened - and therefore don't believe the enslavement of their wives and children happened. But that doesn't stop me from making an academic argument justifying it - just like it hasn't stopped me from making an academic argument justifying the fictional mass execution.

Your reasoning for calling me a liar is getting more and more tenuous by the day. Its almost as if you have some perverse need to use that petty insult.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

By enslavement? Here's the cold hard truth FD - the entire menfolk were dead - killed because they committed treason against their muslim allies.

Gandalf is this you saying the slaughter did not actually happen?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering Reply #349 - May 13^th, 2017 at 10:58pm FD I've already stated how my opinion on the historical veracity of the story has changed in the 4+ years I've been here. How does that make me a liar?
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Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering
Reply #350 - May 14^th, 2017 at 9:35am

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13^th, 2017 at 10:58pm:

FD I've already stated how my opinion on the historical veracity of the story has changed in the 4+ years I've been here. How does that make me a liar?

Yes Gandalf. You have stated every conceivable opinion on the matter. The entire menfolk were definitely slaughtered by Muhammad. You have always believed it never happened. You have changed your mind. You have not changed your mind.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 8^th, 2013 at 10:11pm:

By enslavement? Here's the cold hard truth FD - the entire menfolk were dead - killed because they committed treason against their muslim allies.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 8:19pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 8^th, 2016 at 8:12pm:

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I'm a muslim who believes the massacre didn't even happen.

And still you justify it. How long have you held this view for Gandalf? is that based on that article you posted that insisted it must be a lie because a Jew said it was true?

I've always held it FD - check back on my previous posts.

So how do you explain it FD - you just said my religion "compels" me to believe and justify it.

Can you appreciate now why I need to wiki to keep track of the ever-changing versions of events that Muslims give us? You have offered us an extraordinary array of excuses and obfuscations for Muhammad's genocide of the Jews. Every single one of them falls over on closer inspection, so now you put all your effort into running away from your own opinion, but you cannot even get that right. If you run away from one opinion, you run towards another, and you have held them all.

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Reply #351 - Jun 24^th, 2017 at 1:50pm

Apparently I am just pretending to have a problem with Muhammad's genocide of the Jews and the constant stream of creative excuses we get from Gandalf...

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 1:18pm:

Certainly not the high shrill faux outrage, crocodile tears for jews we've had to endure for about 4 years straight.

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Reply #352 - Jun 24^th, 2017 at 2:25pm

freediver wrote on Jun 24^th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

Apparently I am just pretending to have a problem with Muhammad's genocide of the Jews and the constant stream of creative excuses we get from Gandalf...

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 1:18pm:

Certainly not the high shrill faux outrage, crocodile tears for jews we've had to endure for about 4 years straight.

You certainly are, FD. You're also introducing the term genocide to describe Moh. This is the sole reason for your feigned outrage about a thousand year old slaughter.

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Reply #353 - Jun 24^th, 2017 at 4:20pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 24^th, 2017 at 2:25pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 24^th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

Apparently I am just pretending to have a problem with Muhammad's genocide of the Jews and the constant stream of creative excuses we get from Gandalf...

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2017 at 1:18pm:

Certainly not the high shrill faux outrage, crocodile tears for jews we've had to endure for about 4 years straight.

You certainly are, FD. You're also introducing the term genocide to describe Moh. This is the sole reason for your feigned outrage about a thousand year old slaughter.

It must be important K - apparently we need 3 separate threads to discuss this one reply of mine.

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Reply #354 - Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:37pm

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:26pm:

Karnal wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:23pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 2:18pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

Do you have an opinion on Gandalf's justification for Muhammad's genocide that you would like to share?

I was satisfied with his explanation of it.

Are you now going to lie about what I said in this post? or is that only reserved for when you're reflecting?

Does that mean you agree that they were a mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews who deserved to die?

Can you cite any other instances where someone has been able to explain away genocide to you?

No individuality whatsoever, FD. You left that bit out.

Now say the whole thing next time, okay?

Oh dear. I have quoted Gandalf out of context again.

John Smith wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 8:33pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

Does that mean you agree that they were a mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews who deserved to die?

putting word in peoples mouths again FD. You can't help yourself can you. Cheesy

No John. I was asking you a question. What made you so "satisfied" with Gandalf's justification for Muhammad's genocide?

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Reply #356 - Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 10:33am

freediver wrote on Dec 18^th, 2020 at 7:13pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 17^th, 2020 at 9:15am:

FD you are out of your depth when you start referencing the Quran.

Lets start with that quote commanding to "wipe them out from the Hejaz"

Chapter and verse if you could please.

Can anyone help me out with the relevant quote please?

Surely you're not saying you asserted its existence without actually knowing whether it existed? Most unlke you FD.

Are you not capable of finding it yourself?

Or are you asking someone to find another quote for you and twist its meaning to say what you want it to say?

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49599 At my desk.	Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering Reply #357 - Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 8:25pm Quote: Surely you're not saying you asserted its existence without actually knowing whether it existed? No.
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Reply #358 - Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 11:53pm

freediver wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 8:25pm:

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Surely you're not saying you asserted its existence without actually knowing whether it existed?

No.

That explains that then, G. No, FD didn't really just make up a quote from the Quran and ask you to find it for him.

He was referring to another book entirely.

Can anyone find it for him?

What's the matter, G? Cat got your tongue?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islamic justification for Jew slaughtering Reply #359 - Dec 24^th, 2020 at 8:56am freediver wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2020 at 8:25pm: Quote: Surely you're not saying you asserted its existence without actually knowing whether it existed? No. Show me the quote then.
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