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Reply #15 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:10pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:04pm:
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Mr Smith I do hope your vehicle is not damaged by the negligent operation of a Uber 'taxi.'



Don't care, I'm fully covered, the rest is my insurance companies problem, not mine.


No excess?


I haven't read my policy in years, but I think not if I can name the other driver
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Reply #16 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:13pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:03pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:00pm:
Mr Smith I do hope your vehicle is not damaged by the negligent operation of a Uber 'taxi.'



Don't care, I'm fully covered, the rest is my insurance companies problem, not mine.


No excess?


I haven't read my policy in years, but I think not if I can name the other driver


I recommend that you pull it out and read it.  Unless you are a long standing member of the RACQ, you will find you are wrong.
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Reply #17 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:15pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:08pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 1:52pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 1:43pm:
It smacks too much of underground leftist economics to me and, as such, usually ends up with a few nasty people walking away with a fortune and leaving wreckage in their wake.



as opposed to whats happened in mining, banking, energy, retail and just about every other sector you care to name.


If you're a stock market investor in any of these sectors, you take your risks or rewards. Totally different thing from the likes of Uber.


ahh, so stock market investors are Ok ... lucky for them. ............. and what about the small mum and dad operators the big companies walk over? The one's who've invested their life savings into a farm, a corner store or whatever else it may be?


Business is always a risk, small or big. I constantly despair of mum & dad investors who put all their eggs in one basket or who invest in a small business, especially a franchise (eg Pizza Hut currently), where there is high risk of being run over by a bigger competitor.
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Reply #18 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 3:41pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:03pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:00pm:
Mr Smith I do hope your vehicle is not damaged by the negligent operation of a Uber 'taxi.'



Don't care, I'm fully covered, the rest is my insurance companies problem, not mine.


No excess?


I haven't read my policy in years, but I think not if I can name the other driver


I recommend that you pull it out and read it.  Unless you are a long standing member of the RACQ, you will find you are wrong.


John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:08pm:
I'll take my chances .... I work from home, drive less than 2000 k a year. .. I think I'm safe.


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Reply #19 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 3:46pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:08pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 2:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 1:52pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 1:43pm:
It smacks too much of underground leftist economics to me and, as such, usually ends up with a few nasty people walking away with a fortune and leaving wreckage in their wake.



as opposed to whats happened in mining, banking, energy, retail and just about every other sector you care to name.


If you're a stock market investor in any of these sectors, you take your risks or rewards. Totally different thing from the likes of Uber.


ahh, so stock market investors are Ok ... lucky for them. ............. and what about the small mum and dad operators the big companies walk over? The one's who've invested their life savings into a farm, a corner store or whatever else it may be?


Business is always a risk, small or big. I constantly despair of mum & dad investors who put all their eggs in one basket or who invest in a small business, especially a franchise (eg Pizza Hut currently), where there is high risk of being run over by a bigger competitor.



and buying taxi plates is a risk .... why should they be protected from outside forces while other 'just have to accept that it's part of business. They've been sheltered for long enough

Uber, whether this version as it is now, or a upgraded version in ten yrs time, is the way of the future.

Taxis are the mail carriages and uber is the motor car of 100 yrs ago Wink Wink You'll might delay the progress, you won't stop it.
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Reply #20 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:03pm
 
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and buying taxi plates is a risk .... why should they be protected from outside forces while other 'just have to accept that it's part of business. They've been sheltered for long enough


Not when (as in my case) the Licence is acquired directly from Government which puts it into the market on the basis that I am unable to operate a Cab without owning that said licence.  At a cost to me...and a receipt/revenue by them of hundreds of thousands of dollars.  In those circumstances, I am entitled to Government protection from others doing exactly what I do...at zero cost to them, and at zero revenue to Government.

No-one inside the Taxi Industry is looking for protection from competition.  No argument from me.  But.......that competition must be forced to play by the same rules I am forced to play be.  Or, conversely, Government can pay to me the (pre Uber) value of what it flogged off to me, plus the others tens of thousands (perhaps even hundreds of thousands) over the years I've been operating) meeting its statutory requirements, and then I'll be happy to compete with Uber as then we'll be playing the same game under the same rules.

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Uber, whether this version as it is now, or a upgraded version in ten yrs time, is the way of the future.

Taxis are the mail carriages and uber is the motor car of 100 yrs ago Wink Wink You'll might delay the progress, you won't stop it.


This is one of the great Uber myths.  The best way I can get Mr Smith to see reality, is to ask him now exactly what he reckons Uber brings which the Taxi Industry does not already offer.
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Reply #21 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:05pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:03pm:
Not when (as in my case) the Licence is acquired directly from Government



anything to do with govt is a risk Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

by the way aussie you missed this bit earlier

John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 1:52pm:
I agree, I think the govt. should compensate them. After all, the govt, charged them the ridiculous fees to start with

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Reply #22 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:07pm
 
Sorry.....if I can get a cab for half the normal fare.....I'm in.

Free market, is it?

Although, I do feel sorry for the cabbies that are left with a white elephant.
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Reply #23 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:12pm
 
Sorry doesn't do it
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Reply #24 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:16pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:03pm:
is to ask him now exactly what he reckons Uber brings which the Taxi Industry does not already offer.



cheap fares
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Reply #25 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:19pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:07pm:
Sorry.....if I can get a cab for half the normal fare.....I'm in.

Free market, is it?

Although, I do feel sorry for the cabbies that are left with a white elephant.


Short term gain will be long term pain, Dame Pansi.  If what Uber is attempting works, and it destroys the taxi industry, how long do you reckon they will continue to offer reduced fares? They do not reduce their fares now in peak periods, and in fact, raise them beyond what taxis charge in those times.  You might also remember how they spiked their fares when the Mons Siege was under way, for further example.

Further, who do you reckon is gonna take Granny home from the Woolies rank after loading her groceries for her, and delivering them to her front door.  Uber?  Not on your life.  They aren't interested in that end of the market, which we serve day in and day out.  All they want is the cherry pick.  Well....think about how that will play out.  If Taxis disappear......Granny walks home....if she can, that is.

Who do you reckon is gonna take the wheel chair bound around like our Maxis do?  Uber?  Don't be stupid.  They are cherry picking, remember?  So when the Taxis go, the wheel chair bound can push themselves around...if they can, that is.

And what about the disabled, the 'Endeavour Foundation' type customer.  You know, those we pick up every week day and take to where they work.  All for the massive reward of around an average of $10.00 for half an hour including delay at pick up, the trip and then the delay at drop off.  Uber, nah....they don't want to know about them.  They want the cherry pick.

Careful what you wish for.
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Reply #26 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:22pm
 
Dame Pansi, Cabs are out there 24/7/365 come hail or high water.  (It's a licence condition.)  Uber?  Not on yer nelly.


3.00 am and some drunk wants to get home from the local disco or whatever.  Value of trip...less than $10.00.  Is an Uber driver gonna get out of bed, fire up his car and go get the guy.  Nah.  Hell say, "Ring a Cab."

What Cab will that be Dame Pansi?
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Reply #27 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:24pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:19pm:
who do you reckon is gonna take Granny home from the Woolies rank



what makes you think Ubers current system is set in stone? If Uber doesn't pick up grannie at woolies it's because they're currently not allowed to ....

if they don't do it someone else will take up the slack and force Uber out. I know a retired guy who considered Uber but opted not to for now ... he wouldn't give a damn if he sat outside woolies waiting for an old grannie to show up for a ride home ... no different to him now sitting at home twiddling his thumbs, and he might make some money on top of it.
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Reply #28 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:24pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:12pm:
Sorry doesn't do it


Sorry, the market decides, the consumers decide.

I agree, the guvvy should fully compensate all cabby licenses.

Licensed cabbies will join Uber....level playing field.
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Reply #29 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:26pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 11th, 2015 at 4:22pm:
Cabs are out there 24/7/365 come hail or high water.  (It's a licence condition.)  Uber?  Not on yer nelly.




sure they will ... once those cabbies get their compensation for their cabs they'll throw away their plates and go to work for uber, manning the same ranks, working the same hours ...  Cheesy Cheesy
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