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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	What has Islam to say about this? Aug 11^th, 2015 at 1:27pm It doesn't mention Islam in the report, but after all this Dubai. But I don't know of another religion which would have some of its followers believe this is what their god wants. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3192381/Asian-father-daughter-drowned-Du...
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: What has Islam to say about this? Reply #1 - Aug 11^th, 2015 at 2:38pm Obviously nothing. Just as it says virtually nothing about IS atrocities.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: What has Islam to say about this? Reply #2 - Aug 11^th, 2015 at 3:38pm ?
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Reply #3 - Aug 11^th, 2015 at 3:53pm

There was a fire in a school in Saudi Arabia where young girls died because they were not allowed to leave without their hijabs.

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Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing the correct Islamic dress.

15 girls died in the fire on Monday.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1874471.stm

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: What has Islam to say about this? Reply #4 - Aug 11^th, 2015 at 4:10pm What all this says to me is that Islam is evil
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John S. New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8 Gender:	Re: What has Islam to say about this? Reply #5 - Aug 11^th, 2015 at 5:04pm A quick read of the Quran might tell you similar things.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: What has Islam to say about this? Reply #6 - Aug 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm Yes I just heard about this. Digusting behaviour. Charge him for murder as far as I'm concerned.
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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: What has Islam to say about this? Reply #7 - Aug 11^th, 2015 at 8:18pm bogarde73 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 4:10pm: What all this says to me is that Islam is evil There is no such thing as honour killings or the like in islam. The guy was stupid to not let his daughter be helped even by strange men. If anything seemed like the muslims wanted to help the girl
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: What has Islam to say about this? Reply #8 - Aug 11^th, 2015 at 8:27pm wally1 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 8:18pm: If anything seemed like the muslims wanted to help the girl shhh - don't mess up the meme here wally.
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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: What has Islam to say about this? Reply #9 - Aug 12^th, 2015 at 8:32am Many of these ME countries are bogged down in cultural inhibitions, yet cultural relativism declares them equal to those that are actually more progressive. This is the conundrum facing Western multi-culturalism.
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Reply #10 - Aug 12^th, 2015 at 9:44am

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 8:18pm:

If anything seemed like the muslims wanted to help the girl

shhh - don't mess up the meme here wally.

Gandalf, you could have stated that in this case, the father was probably an extremist Muslim and that you, as a moderate Muslim found his response to the situation to be both inappropriate and repugnant.

But you didn't.

You even remained silent about the role these life savers played.

You could have stated that you, as a moderate Muslim, believe they could have done more to override the decision of one man trying to play God with the life of another....in this case..the life of a defenceless girl fighting to survive her most frightening last moments on this earth.

But you didn't.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: What has Islam to say about this? Reply #11 - Aug 12^th, 2015 at 9:59am And he didn't explain why it is that so many, so very many followers of Islam receive these perverted ideas from it.
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Reply #12 - Aug 12^th, 2015 at 10:59am

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 9:44am:

you, as a moderate Muslim found his response to the situation to be both inappropriate and repugnant.

But you didn't.

Read my first post again. Does "disgusting behaviour" work for you?

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 9:44am:

You could have stated that you, as a moderate Muslim, believe they could have done more to override the decision of one man trying to play God with the life of another....in this case..the life of a defenceless girl fighting to survive her most frightening last moments on this earth.

Let me be clear - if the lifesavers were even in the smallest way deterred by the man to halt their efforts to save a life - then they are culpable for the death too - and should be punished accordingly. I don't know the full story or what their actual efforts involved - but two men dedicated to pinning the father down while the rest concentrated on rescuing the girl would seem an appropriate response.

And you are right - it does seem slightly unbelievable that a group of (presumably) young, fit and healthy rescuers were completely held at bay by a single man.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #13 - Aug 12^th, 2015 at 11:02am

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 9:59am:

And he didn't explain why it is that so many, so very many followers of Islam receive these perverted ideas from it.

Why don't you tell me bogarde?

Please point me to the passage of Islamic text that states "thou shalt not have your dying daughter rescued in case she must be touched by a non-relative male".

Its beyond stupid - the man is a murderer pure and simple. I'd string him up myself if given the opportunity - as well as any lifeguards that let themselves be persuaded by him.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #14 - Aug 12^th, 2015 at 11:05am

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 10:59am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 9:44am:

you, as a moderate Muslim found his response to the situation to be both inappropriate and repugnant.

But you didn't.

Read my first post again. Does "disgusting behaviour" work for you?

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 12^th, 2015 at 9:44am:

You could have stated that you, as a moderate Muslim, believe they could have done more to override the decision of one man trying to play God with the life of another....in this case..the life of a defenceless girl fighting to survive her most frightening last moments on this earth.

Let me be clear - if the lifesavers were even in the smallest way deterred by the man to halt their efforts to save a life - then they are culpable for the death too - and should be punished accordingly. I don't know the full story or what their actual efforts involved - but two men dedicated to pinning the father down while the rest concentrated on rescuing the girl would seem an appropriate response.

And you are right - it does seem slightly unbelievable that a group of (presumably) young, fit and healthy rescuers were completely held at bay by a single man.

Thank you.

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