Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 14^th, 2015 at 6:44pm:


The cities, was it? They originally wanted to blow up Fukuoka.

Enola Gay ran out of fuel, so they settled on Nagasaki.

Whoops.

IKarnal wrote on Aug 14^th, 2015 at 9:26pm:


I thought the primary target was concealed by cloud.  There should be no doubt that cities were deliberately targeted and that there was a list of target cities.

The Japanese didn't want to surrender. It took 2 bombs and they still weren't going to surrender. These are the figures from the  last 2 islands the Americans attacked (Okinawa and Iwo Jima)-

Okinawa-The Americans paid a large price for Okinawa: 12,000 Allied dead and another 38,000 wounded.  But the Japanese lost more than 100,000 men.150,000 local civilians were killed or committed suicide with many casualties.

Iwo Jima-  Almost 7000 Americans were killed; another 18,000 were wounded. But the Japanese casualties were horrific.  Only 200 of the 21,000 soldiers deployed survived to be taken prisoner.

Now if the allies invaded mainland Japan imagine the casualties. Imagine if the war dragged on and Russia got involved. Consider the continuation of the aerial bombing campaign over japan and  the further casualties?? MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!!!!! You demented leftards need to pull your heads out of your assholes and think this through!

double plus good wrote on Aug 15^th, 2015 at 9:18am:


Correct.

The Nipponese military brass wanted Japan to go down fighting, no matter what.

Civilians, towns, cities ... all were to be sacrificed in the interest of preserving the Bushido code of honour that the Japanese prized so highly.

gandalf doesn't understand these subtle nuances of an ancient culture any more than he understands or admits to the subtle nuances of Islamic doctrine that allows for, and sanctions, the barbarities committed by ISIS and others.   

It was just one solitary person who saved Japan from total annihilation ... the Divine Emperor Hirohito (pbuh).

Karnal wrote on Aug 15^th, 2015 at 12:32pm:
The city of Nagasaki had been one of the largest sea ports in southern Japan and was of great wartime importance because of its wide-ranging industrial activity, including the production of ordnance, ships, military equipment, and other war materials.

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double plus good wrote on Aug 15^th, 2015 at 12:42pm:


Not at the time. Next.

Another reason they hit Nagasaki rather than the intended target Fukuoka was the Jap fighters on Enola Gay’s tail.

Imagine: that blast could well have taken place in the air.

For Karnal Knowledge- wikipedia.

Modern history[edit]
With the Meiji Restoration, Japan opened its doors once again to foreign trade and diplomatic relations. Nagasaki became a free port in 1859 and modernization began in earnest in 1868. Nagasaki was officially proclaimed a city on April 1, 1889. With Christianity legalized and the Kakure Kirishitan coming out of hiding, Nagasaki regained its earlier role as a center for Roman Catholicism in Japan.[citation needed]

During the Meiji period, Nagasaki became a center of heavy industry. Its main industry was ship-building, with the dockyards under control of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries becoming one of the prime contractors for the Imperial Japanese Navy, and with Nagasaki harbor used as an anchorage under the control of nearby Sasebo Naval District. During World War II, at the time of the nuclear attack on August 9, 1945, Nagasaki was an important industrial city, containing both plants of the Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works, the Akunoura Engine Works, Mitsubishi Arms Plant, Mitsubishi Electric Shipyards, Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works, Mitsubishi-Urakami Ordnance Works, several other small factories, and most of the ports storage and trans-shipment facilities, which employed about 90% of the city's labor force, and accounted for 90% of the city's industry. These connections with the Japanese war effort made Nagasaki a major target for bombing by the Allies during the war.

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