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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35600 Gender:	Re: I believe it's Feminism gone mad Reply #30 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:12pm Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:06pm: What a load of horse $hit. Like hell you'd let your daughters fight on the freaking front line. Bloody hypocritical lying nongs! Since when does a person have a say in what adult children do?
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Re: I believe it's Feminism gone mad
Reply #32 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:24pm

oh dear wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

I mean this argument being made by some of the feminist commentators that women should be allowed into front line combat roles.

I know the Russians did it and may still do. I know that there are women combat pilots and on warships.

But I just don't think combat infantry is the place for women. Call me what you like.

Have a look at Wikipedia the Russian women were very capable soldiers,I don't see what the issue is regarding women who would like to serve in the frontline, if they can meet the requirements I say why not.

Russia had suffered over 20 million casualties, making their stocks of able fighting men thin. They also recruited children and old folks too, to prevent them being overrun. Desperate times call for desperate measures - but we are not desperate.

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Reply #33 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:31pm

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

oh dear wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

I mean this argument being made by some of the feminist commentators that women should be allowed into front line combat roles.

I know the Russians did it and may still do. I know that there are women combat pilots and on warships.

But I just don't think combat infantry is the place for women. Call me what you like.

Have a look at Wikipedia the Russian women were very capable soldiers,I don't see what the issue is regarding women who would like to serve in the frontline, if they can meet the requirements I say why not.

Russia had suffered over 20 million casualties, making their stocks of able fighting men thin. They also recruited children and old folks too, to prevent them being overrun. Desperate times call for desperate measures - but we are not desperate.

Nothing desperate about recruiting a person who qualifies.

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Reply #35 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:33pm

Unforgiven wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:32pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:06pm:

What a load of horse $hit.

Like hell you'd let your daughters fight on the freaking front line.

Bloody hypocritical lying nongs!

Lisa shoots off half-cocked again.

That implies there is a properly charged cartridge in the chamber. There never is.

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Reply #36 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:38pm

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

oh dear wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

I mean this argument being made by some of the feminist commentators that women should be allowed into front line combat roles.

I know the Russians did it and may still do. I know that there are women combat pilots and on warships.

But I just don't think combat infantry is the place for women. Call me what you like.

Have a look at Wikipedia the Russian women were very capable soldiers,I don't see what the issue is regarding women who would like to serve in the frontline, if they can meet the requirements I say why not.

Russia had suffered over 20 million casualties, making their stocks of able fighting men thin. They also recruited children and old folks too, to prevent them being overrun. Desperate times call for desperate measures - but we are not desperate.

Yes your right Russian stocks were thin but the Women performed many varied combat roles I didn't see any evidence they were incapable.I know we are not desperate but if women can meet the requirements to serve on the frontline and they want to I don't see what the problem is.

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Reply #37 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:38pm

mothra wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

oh dear wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

I mean this argument being made by some of the feminist commentators that women should be allowed into front line combat roles.

I know the Russians did it and may still do. I know that there are women combat pilots and on warships.

But I just don't think combat infantry is the place for women. Call me what you like.

Have a look at Wikipedia the Russian women were very capable soldiers,I don't see what the issue is regarding women who would like to serve in the frontline, if they can meet the requirements I say why not.

Russia had suffered over 20 million casualties, making their stocks of able fighting men thin. They also recruited children and old folks too, to prevent them being overrun. Desperate times call for desperate measures - but we are not desperate.

Nothing desperate about recruiting a person who qualifies.

Yes but they don't qualify.

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Reply #38 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:39pm

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

oh dear wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

I mean this argument being made by some of the feminist commentators that women should be allowed into front line combat roles.

I know the Russians did it and may still do. I know that there are women combat pilots and on warships.

But I just don't think combat infantry is the place for women. Call me what you like.

Have a look at Wikipedia the Russian women were very capable soldiers,I don't see what the issue is regarding women who would like to serve in the frontline, if they can meet the requirements I say why not.

Russia had suffered over 20 million casualties, making their stocks of able fighting men thin. They also recruited children and old folks too, to prevent them being overrun. Desperate times call for desperate measures - but we are not desperate.

Nothing desperate about recruiting a person who qualifies.

Yes but they don't qualify.

I'll bet there's some that do.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2880029/Girl-soldiers-fight-frontline-20...

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Reply #39 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:43pm

mothra wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:39pm:

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

oh dear wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

I mean this argument being made by some of the feminist commentators that women should be allowed into front line combat roles.

I know the Russians did it and may still do. I know that there are women combat pilots and on warships.

But I just don't think combat infantry is the place for women. Call me what you like.

Have a look at Wikipedia the Russian women were very capable soldiers,I don't see what the issue is regarding women who would like to serve in the frontline, if they can meet the requirements I say why not.

Russia had suffered over 20 million casualties, making their stocks of able fighting men thin. They also recruited children and old folks too, to prevent them being overrun. Desperate times call for desperate measures - but we are not desperate.

Nothing desperate about recruiting a person who qualifies.

Yes but they don't qualify.

I'll bet there's some that do.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2880029/Girl-soldiers-fight-frontline-20...

Did you read that link? Its basically one big argument AGAINST women on the front line.

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Reply #40 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:44pm

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:43pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:39pm:

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

oh dear wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

I mean this argument being made by some of the feminist commentators that women should be allowed into front line combat roles.

I know the Russians did it and may still do. I know that there are women combat pilots and on warships.

But I just don't think combat infantry is the place for women. Call me what you like.

Have a look at Wikipedia the Russian women were very capable soldiers,I don't see what the issue is regarding women who would like to serve in the frontline, if they can meet the requirements I say why not.

Russia had suffered over 20 million casualties, making their stocks of able fighting men thin. They also recruited children and old folks too, to prevent them being overrun. Desperate times call for desperate measures - but we are not desperate.

Nothing desperate about recruiting a person who qualifies.

Yes but they don't qualify.

I'll bet there's some that do.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2880029/Girl-soldiers-fight-frontline-20...

Did you read that link? Its basically one big argument AGAINST women on the front line.

Sure is ... but it proves my point. Women DO qualify.

That's from the mouth of critics.

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Reply #41 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:50pm

mothra wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:44pm:

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:43pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:39pm:

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

mothra wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

... wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

oh dear wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

I mean this argument being made by some of the feminist commentators that women should be allowed into front line combat roles.

I know the Russians did it and may still do. I know that there are women combat pilots and on warships.

But I just don't think combat infantry is the place for women. Call me what you like.

Have a look at Wikipedia the Russian women were very capable soldiers,I don't see what the issue is regarding women who would like to serve in the frontline, if they can meet the requirements I say why not.

Russia had suffered over 20 million casualties, making their stocks of able fighting men thin. They also recruited children and old folks too, to prevent them being overrun. Desperate times call for desperate measures - but we are not desperate.

Nothing desperate about recruiting a person who qualifies.

Yes but they don't qualify.

I'll bet there's some that do.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2880029/Girl-soldiers-fight-frontline-20...

Did you read that link? Its basically one big argument AGAINST women on the front line.

Sure is ... but it proves my point. Women DO qualify.

That's from the mouth of critics.

actually it said "would" qualify. Hypothetical.

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it estimates only 34 would meet standard to get ground combat jobs

It's not what's happening in practice:

Quote:

All eight women vying to become the first female Army Rangers failed to complete the requirements to go on to the next phase of the grueling course, the Army said.

The women were admitted to the two-month class as part of a broader effort by the Pentagon to lift the ban on female soldiers serving in "ground combat" jobs, such as the infantry.

The Army said Friday that five of the women will leave the course, but three will be given another chance to start the class from the beginning.

Initially, 19 women had volunteered to enter the course when it was opened to women last month. Of those, 11 failed to complete the first four-day phase of the course.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/30/ranger-women/28179303/

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Reply #42 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:57pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:06pm:

What a load of horse $hit.

Like hell you'd let your daughters fight on the freaking front line.

Bloody hypocritical lying nongs!

I wouldnt let my sons either. But then I'd respect them enough to make their own decisions.

I too wouldn't let my sons fight on the front lines.

And no way would I respect their decision to become war fodder. No bloody way!

Bloody hell, I nearly died trying to give birth to my babies. I still have nightmares about those horrid and vile high risk complicated caesarean sections which left me in hospital for close to a month after delivery.

The freaking pain which followed, the inability to move and/or pick up a crying child.

Trying to breastfeed under those circumstances was hell.

Sleeping with 1 eye open all the time in a rocking chair close to a cot to make sure each child was ok...was alive.

SIDS, Meningococcal virus, allergic reactions to meds...all sorts of bloody fears keep you awake at night.

And all this so they can become war fodder????

No thanks.....I'm not offering my children to the god of war. I don't care how old they are....they're not going.

End of story.

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Reply #43 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 6:02pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:06pm:

What a load of horse $hit.

Like hell you'd let your daughters fight on the freaking front line.

Bloody hypocritical lying nongs!

Apparently, there comes a time in a persons life when their parents no longer get to make decisions for them.

I understand that, but kids also need to make informed decisions about their future.That's where parents come into the scene.

And please don't tell me that kids are adults at age 18.

They're not. They're still gullible and naive teenagers who need a hell of a lot of guidance.

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Reply #44 - Aug 18^th, 2015 at 6:06pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:57pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 5:06pm:

What a load of horse $hit.

Like hell you'd let your daughters fight on the freaking front line.

Bloody hypocritical lying nongs!

I wouldnt let my sons either. But then I'd respect them enough to make their own decisions.

I too wouldn't let my sons fight on the front lines.

And no way would I respect their decision to become war fodder. No bloody way!

Bloody hell, I nearly died trying to give birth to my babies. I still have nightmares about those horrid and vile high risk complicated caesarean sections which left me in hospital for close to a month after delivery.

The freaking pain which followed, the inability to move and/or pick up a crying child.

Trying to breastfeed under those circumstances was hell.

Sleeping with 1 eye open all the time in a rocking chair close to a cot to make sure each child was ok...was alive.

SIDS, Meningococcal virus, allergic reactions to meds...all sorts of bloody fears keep you awake at night.

And all this so they can become war fodder????

No thanks.....I'm not offering my children to the god of war. I don't care how old they are....they're not going.

End of story.

You don't stay in hospital for nearly a month even after plancental percreta involving a total hysterectomy, let alone a cesarean.

See Lisa? This is why people question your stories. Right there.

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