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Reply #45 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 2:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 1:57pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 8:58am:
-- but then the very next week we'll see the same mob on the streets again, but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners.



"Incompatible"?  Some of them.  Sure.

What's your criteria for compatibility?


For starters, respect the laws and do not illegally enter other countries, foisting yourselves onto people who didn't ask you to come.


Flee wars by all means and ask for asylum when you are out of harm's way. But demanding to be allowed to illegally cross several borders because you want to force a country to settle you is a clear demonstration that you are not compatible with law abiding, law governed societies and you will continue to not play by the rules because your opening gambit was to act illegally. Repeatedly.

SO illegal immigrants are incompatible.


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Reply #46 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 2:39am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 8:58am:
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 8:09am:
Well written herb. Quite brilliant in fact. It's sadly true that it's only we older few, uncontaminated by the bilge mentality imposed on the young, who are able to see the dangers they face now.


They can't wait for Living Fossils such as you and I to go quietly shuffling off this mortal coil - taking with us our 'preservationist' sentiments which include that our politicians should be representing first and foremost the cultural and demographic interests of this country's future generations of dinky di British and Irish-descended core majority.

They'll march in the streets, shoulder to shoulder with Australia's indigenous people, DEMANDING that indigenous culture and identity be preserved at all cost against contamination and erosion from and by government interference -- but then the very next week we'll see the same mob on the streets again, but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners.

 


You better be nice to us. The meek look set to inherit the earth.
And we'll be the ones choosing your nursing home too Smiley
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Reply #47 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 10:26am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 11:49am:
Why does western civilisation have a death wish?
And who are bidding to be the undertakers?

Look at the self-appointed progressives jumping up and down to try and force David Cameron to voluntarily allow the import of a vast horde of the worst possible economic migrants from Africa and the ME.
Who's going to house them? Who's going to employ them? Who's going to school them? Who's going to provide hospitals and medical care for them?
Maybe Santa Claus will.

And who's going to prevent them turning the UK into a battleground of ethnic & religious turmoil?

The answer to all the above is nobody will. The resources don't exist to do all of that and even if they did, what a waste.

But among the chief bidders for the funeral contract is the Australian-born leader of the Greens in the UK.
She believes that the UK should immediately take 250,000 of the invaders. A quarter of a million!

David Cameron needs to hold his resolve and prepare to repel boarders.
Let the Germans take their 800,000 - it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up being more.
Maybe then, they think, the world won't mention the war again.
That's their problem, let them stew in it.
Many other countries are getting fed up with the progressive rhetoric flowing out of Germany & Brussels.


Jah, but Der DeutscherVolk haff der answer.. MothballenAuschwitzenLageren..  for a few marks could be up und runnink again.... when problem too bad, iss new home for social misfit and undesirable....
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Reply #48 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 11:32am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 11:49am:
And who's going to prevent them turning the UK into a battleground of ethnic & religious turmoil?

The answer to all the above is nobody will. The resources don't exist to do all of that and even if they did, what a waste.

But among the chief bidders for the funeral contract is the Australian-born leader of the Greens in the UK.
She believes that the UK should immediately take 250,000 of the invaders. A quarter of a million!

David Cameron needs to hold his resolve and prepare to repel boarders.
Let the Germans take their 800,000 - it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up being more.
Maybe then, they think, the world won't mention the war again.
That's their problem, let them stew in it.
Many other countries are getting fed up with the progressive rhetoric flowing out of Germany & Brussels.

On Thursday Germany and France ordered the European commission to come up with a new “permanent” and binding regime for spreading the refugee load around all of the 28 countries in the union. David Cameron and home secretary Theresa May want nothing to do with the scheme and have absented themselves from the policymaking, carping from the sidelines.

On Friday the prime ministers of Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic told Paris and Berlin to get stuffed, arguing that west European-style multiculturalism is nothing but trouble and that they have no intention of repeating the same mistakes.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/05/migration-crisis-europe-leaders-bla...

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Reply #49 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 11:45am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 1:42pm:
You can lead a horse but each generation must learn its own hard lessons


Unfortunately, with a demographic timebomb, it's not the generation responsible that pays the price.  Boomers will have comfortably lived out their days on full pensions before the following generations realise the terrible cost they inflicted upon us. 


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Reply #50 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 12:52pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 2:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 1:57pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 8:58am:
-- but then the very next week we'll see the same mob on the streets again, but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners.



"Incompatible"?  Some of them.  Sure.

What's your criteria for compatibility?



SO illegal immigrants are incompatible.





Agreed.

I have no time for illegal immigrants.

Moreover, I haven't seen anyone in this forum who supports them.

You're arguing with yourself.


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Reply #51 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 9:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6th, 2015 at 12:52pm:
Soren wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 2:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 1:57pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 8:58am:
-- but then the very next week we'll see the same mob on the streets again, but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners.



"Incompatible"?  Some of them.  Sure.

What's your criteria for compatibility?



SO illegal immigrants are incompatible.





Agreed.

I have no time for illegal immigrants.

Moreover, I haven't seen anyone in this forum who supports them.

You're arguing with yourself.



You asked a question, bozo. I gave you an answer. That's not arguing with myself, Thickas5firedoors.
Given a choice,  you will always lurch for the idiotic option. You are very reliable that way.



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Reply #52 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 5:36am
 
Soren wrote on Sep 6th, 2015 at 11:32am:
On Friday the prime ministers of Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic told Paris and Berlin to get stuffed, arguing that west European-style multiculturalism is nothing but trouble and that they have no intention of repeating the same mistakes.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/05/migration-crisis-europe-leaders-bla...


This is the first sensible thing I've heard national leaders say since Angela Merkel announced a few years ago that 'multiculturalism' is an utter failure.

It's hugely encouraging to know that the move to defend national cultural heritage and historic identity against alien invasion and the development of Third World 'multicultural' ghettoes is at last making its appearance among the European nations.

It seems a new generation of politicians is at last emerging who are able to acknowledge the realities, and who have not let themselves be charmed by the social engineers who are legion, and whose agenda is to erode and eliminate Western nationalism.





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Reply #53 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 7:07am
 
Soren wrote on Sep 6th, 2015 at 9:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6th, 2015 at 12:52pm:
Soren wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 2:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 1:57pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 24th, 2015 at 8:58am:
-- but then the very next week we'll see the same mob on the streets again, but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners.



"Incompatible"?  Some of them.  Sure.

What's your criteria for compatibility?



SO illegal immigrants are incompatible.





Agreed.

I have no time for illegal immigrants.

Moreover, I haven't seen anyone in this forum who supports them.

You're arguing with yourself.



You asked a question, bozo. I gave you an answer. That's not arguing with myself, Thickas5firedoors.
Given a choice,  you will always lurch for the idiotic option. You are very reliable that way.




"... but this time going APE against those who are rallying in support of keeping Australia from being further flooded by incompatible foreigners."

Nobody is supporting illegal immigrants.

What's led you to be in such a state of confusion?

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Reply #54 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 7:10am
 
It's all too late herb. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.
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Reply #55 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 8:48am
 
Isn't time for Israel to take some refugees from Syria, anyway they are just across the border.
I guess now descendants of Holocaust survivors have a chance to show their solidarity with sufferers.
Or they would rather bomb them.
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Reply #56 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 9:18am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 7:10am:
It's all too late herb. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.


It is good that the Europeans are accepting refugees, because they themselves will most likely end up as refugees, if the American plan to start a war in Europe succeeds.
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Reply #57 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 9:19am
 
Peter Hitchens - Mail on Sunday:

Actually we can’t do what we like with this country. We inherited it from our parents and grandparents and we have a duty to hand it on to our children and grandchildren, preferably improved and certainly undamaged.

It is one of the heaviest responsibilities we will ever have. We cannot just give it away to complete strangers on an impulse because it makes us feel good about ourselves.
Every one of the posturing notables simpering ‘refugees welcome’ should be asked if he or she will take a refugee family into his or her home for an indefinite period, and pay for their food, medical treatment and education.
If so, they mean it. If not, they are merely demanding that others pay and make room so that they can experience a self-righteous glow. No doubt the same people are also sentimental enthusiasts for the ‘living wage’, and ‘social housing’, when in fact open borders are steadily pushing wages down and housing costs up.

As William Blake rightly said: ‘He who would do good to another must do it in minute particulars. General good is the plea of the scoundrel, hypocrite and flatterer.’

Britain is a desirable place to live mainly because it is an island, which most people can’t get to. Most of the really successful civilisations survived because they were protected from invasion by mountains, sea, deserts or a combination of these things. Ask the Russians or the Poles what it’s like to live without the shield of the sea. There is no positive word for ‘safety’ in Russian. Their word for security is ‘bezopasnost’ – ‘without danger’.

Thanks to a thousand years of uninvaded peace, we have developed astonishing levels of trust, safety and freedom. I have visited nearly 60 countries and lived in the USSR, Russia and the USA, and I have never experienced anything as good as what we have. Only in the Anglosphere countries – the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand – is there anything comparable. I am amazed at how relaxed we are about giving this away.

Our advantages depend very much on our shared past, our inherited traditions, habits and memories. Newcomers can learn them, but only if they come in small enough numbers. Mass immigration means we adapt to them, when they should be adapting to us.

So now, on the basis of an emotional spasm, dressed up as civilisation and generosity, are we going to say that we abandon this legacy and decline our obligation to pass it on, like the enfeebled, wastrel heirs of an ancient inheritance letting the great house and the estate go to ruin?
Having seen more than my share of real corpses, and watched children starving to death in a Somali famine, I am not unmoved by pictures of a dead child on a Turkish beach. But I am not going to pretend to be more upset than anyone else. Nor am I going to suddenly stop thinking, as so many people in the media and politics appear to have done.

The child is not dead because advanced countries have immigration laws. The child is dead because criminal traffickers cynically risked the lives of their victims in pursuit of money.

I’ll go further. The use of words such as ‘desperate’ is quite wrong in this case. The child’s family were safe in Turkey. Turkey (for all its many faults) is a member of Nato, officially classified as free and democratic. Many British people actually pay good money to go on holiday to the very beach where the child’s body was washed up.

It may not be ideal, but the definition of a refugee is that he is fleeing from danger, not fleeing towards a higher standard of living.

Goodness knows I have done what I could on this page to oppose the stupid interventions by this country in Iraq, Libya and Syria, which have turned so many innocent people into refugees or corpses.

But I can see neither sense nor justice in allowing these things to become a pretext for an unstoppable demographic revolution in which Europe (including, alas, our islands) merges its culture and its economy with North Africa and the Middle East. If we let this happen, Europe would lose almost all the things that make others want to live there.

You really think these crowds of tough young men chanting ‘Germany!’ in the heart of Budapest are ‘asylum-seekers’ or ‘refugees’?

Refugees don’t confront the police of the countries in which they seek sanctuary. They don’t chant orchestrated slogans or lie across the train tracks.

And why, by the way, do they use the English name for Germany when they chant? In Arabic and Turkish, that country is called ‘Almanya’, in Kurdish something similar. The Germans themselves call it ‘Deutschland’. In Hungarian, it’s ‘Nemetorszag’.

Did someone hope that British and American TV would be there? I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: spontaneous demonstrations take a lot of organising.

Refugees don’t demand or choose their refuge. They ask and they hope. When we become refugees one day (as we may well do), we will discover this.

As to what those angry, confident and forceful young men actually are, I’ll leave you to work it out, as I am too afraid of the Thought Police to use what I think is the correct word.
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Reply #58 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 9:20am
 
But it is interesting that this week sees the publication in English of a rather dangerous book, which came out in France just before the Charlie Hebdo murders.

Submission, by Michel Houellebecq, prophesies a Muslim-dominated government in France about seven years from now, ushered into power by the French Tory and Labour parties.

What they want, says one of the cleverer characters in the book, ‘is for France to disappear – to be integrated into a European federation’. This means they’d much rather do a deal with a Muslim party than with the National Front, France’s Ukip equivalent.

If any of this sounds familiar to you, I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s amazing how likely and simple the author makes this Islamic revolution sound.

Can we stop this transformation of all we have and are? I doubt it. To do so would involve the grim-faced determination of Australia, making it plain in every way that our doors are open only to limited numbers of people, chosen by us, enduring the righteous scorn of the supposedly enlightened.
As we lack the survival instinct and the determination necessary, and as so many of our most influential people are set on committing a sentimental national suicide, I suspect we won’t.
To those who condemn reasonable calls for national self-defence as bigotry, hatred and intolerance (which they are not), I make only this request: just don’t pretend you’re doing a good and generous thing, when you’re really cowardly and weak.



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Reply #59 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 10:17am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 7:10am:
It's all too late herb. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.


Well spotted, bogarde.

And needless to say the biggest lunatic on the world stage at this very moment is Germany's Angela Merkel.

From announcing to the world only a few short years ago that "Multiculturalism is a failure" - this breasty wench is now in the process of screwing her country with Muslim Arabs - a very different entity to Turkish Muslims, as she has yet to discover.

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And this is worth repeating:

"As we lack the survival instinct and the determination necessary, and as so many of our most influential people are set on committing a sentimental national suicide, I suspect we won’t".

"... a sentimental national suicide ..."

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"To those who condemn reasonable calls for national self-defence as bigotry, hatred and intolerance (which they are not), I make only this request: just don’t pretend you’re doing a good and generous thing, when you’re really cowardly and weak".

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