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Fauxfacts attempt to smear an honourable SAS Capt.
Aug 23rd, 2015 at 6:53am
 
A FORMER SAS soldier chosen to fight the WA Canning by-election for Prime Minister Tony Abbott has delivered an extraordinary speech responding to allegations that soldiers under his command cut off the hands of dead Taliban soldiers. 
 
Captain Andrew Hastie, 32, has revealed in his first public speech to the WA Liberal Party that he ordered the investigation into his own troops and was personally cleared of any wrongdoing.

“I have now left the Defence Force with a clean slate, having defended our nation against the Taliban and Daesh,” he said.

“I am now taking the skills I learned in the army and if elected will use them to be the best representative for the people of Canning.

“I have not lived my life behind a desk pushing paper and talking about the concepts of freedom and democracy. I have acted. I have put my life on the line for this country and for that freedom.’’

He also accused Labor of “not having our backs’’ when he was fighting in the Middle East, an issue that prompted him to enter politics.

For the first time, Captain Hastie also revealed that not only was nowhere near an incident, he was in the helicopter.

Confronting allegations splashed across Fairfax newspapers today that officers under his command are still being investigated, he also criticised the length of the Defence investigation.

The allegations were published in Melbourne’s The Age newspaper under the headline “Question of conduct’’ in a report that noted Captain Hastie was not involved in the incident or present when it occurred.

It is alleged that the hands of three Taliban fighters were cut off for the purpose of fingerprinting in 2013.

Captain Hastie acknowledged that mistakes sometimes happen in a “high-pressure war zone where people are trying to kill you’’.

“It is true as reported that I wasn’t at the scene of the incident when it happened. I was in fact above and away in a helicopter orbiting overhead,’’ he said.

“When I became aware, I did what I was required to do and promptly reported the incident up the chain of command.

“I can say with great confidence that those soldiers involved directly with the incident were acting in what they believed to be the appropriate process laid out by defence.

“As the then Defence Force chief David Hurley said ‘We were engaged in a high intensity, complex and dangerous battle’. It is critical when you fight the Taliban that you gather evidence and do what you can to investigate ... the identification of your enemy.’’

Captain Hastie also revealed that an inquiry had found “my actions at the time were appropriate’’.

“All but one of the troops was cleared,’’ he said.

“The investigation was launched after the issues was raised up the chain of command and it was raised by me.

“The investigation into this single soldier has taken two years and four months and it hasn’t been finalised. As reported, there are differing views as to whether the incident constituted a breach of the rules of war.

“People who serve, put their lives on the line to protect our country. I have always stood up and fought hard to represent the troops I lead and if that requires ruffling feathers, I have done that and I will do that again now.

“Out of concern for the soldier involved, I am disappointed that my candidacy has brought this issue to the forefront of media attention.

“The least we can do for that honourable soldier is to ensure that the investigation into the incident is done fully and quickly.

“This issue has cast a shadow for almost two and a half years over this man’s life. I believe the Defence Force has a duty of care to finalise its investigation more quickly.”

The Prime Minister said he was proud Captain Hastie had chosen to extend his public service into politics.

“He’s fought for our country in the field. He will fight for Canning in Parliament,’’ Mr Abbott said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/canning-candidate-captain-andrew-hasties-ra...
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“It is true as reported that I wasn’t at the scene of the incident when it happened. I was in fact above and away in a helicopter orbiting overhead,’’ he said.


He wasn't even there, yet that hasn't stopped Fauxfacts from publishing a lie in a puerile attempt to smear this outstanding Australian.
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Reply #2 - Aug 23rd, 2015 at 7:46am
 
SMH and co are slimey lefty rags
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Reply #3 - Aug 23rd, 2015 at 7:51am
 
Swagman wrote on Aug 23rd, 2015 at 7:46am:
SMH and co are slimey lefty rags


He ought to sue them for defaming them and damaging his honourable reputation.
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Reply #4 - Aug 23rd, 2015 at 7:55am
 
I saw this and I think it was a low act.

This is why politics is a mongrel art.

Perhaps people should try and let go of their bigotry left , right and centre
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miketrees wrote on Aug 23rd, 2015 at 7:55am:
I saw this and I think it was a low act.

This is why politics is a mongrel art.

Perhaps people should try and let go of their bigotry left , right and centre


Labor did the same thing in 2013 to a decorated former NSW Police Officer with an exemplary record. There is no level too low for Labor - they will stoop as low as they must to win.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 23rd, 2015 at 6:57am:
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“It is true as reported that I wasn’t at the scene of the incident when it happened. I was in fact above and away in a helicopter orbiting overhead,’’ he said.


He wasn't even there, yet that hasn't stopped Fauxfacts from publishing a lie in a puerile attempt to smear this outstanding Australian.


Exactly.  Waiting for an apology from the busted ar53 taxi drivers on this forum.
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Reply #7 - Aug 23rd, 2015 at 8:26am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 23rd, 2015 at 7:57am:
miketrees wrote on Aug 23rd, 2015 at 7:55am:
I saw this and I think it was a low act.

This is why politics is a mongrel art.

Perhaps people should try and let go of their bigotry left , right and centre


Labor did the same thing in 2013 to a decorated former NSW Police Officer with an exemplary record. There is no level too low for Labor - they will stoop as low as they must to win.


Yes. No such thing as too low when Labor standards are considered. With a complicit filth media led front and Centre by the abc it is a deplorable situation.

When will the conservatives realize this is a street fight or a guerilla war I don't know, you only win a guerilla war by embracing on guerilla warfare tactics.
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Reply #8 - Aug 23rd, 2015 at 8:44am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 23rd, 2015 at 6:57am:
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“It is true as reported that I wasn’t at the scene of the incident when it happened. I was in fact above and away in a helicopter orbiting overhead,’’ he said.


He wasn't even there, yet that hasn't stopped Fauxfacts from publishing a lie in a puerile attempt to smear this outstanding Australian.
That's a silly argument and you know it. If he ordered it he'd be responsible right?  So don't give me this "he wasn't even there" BS because it looks like you couldn't care less about the truth and just want to deceive people into accepting the DT version for your party's sake. 

I don't know if he had any responsibility for this or not but from what I read in that article I wouldn't want that lunatic representing me in an office of responsibility under any circumstances.    
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Reply #9 - Aug 23rd, 2015 at 8:46am
 
miketrees wrote on Aug 23rd, 2015 at 7:55am:
I saw this and I think it was a low act.

This is why politics is a mongrel art.

Perhaps people should try and let go of their bigotry left , right and centre
You mean like Armchair and you do???
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Reply #10 - Aug 23rd, 2015 at 8:46am
 
I can hope these diehard libs move to WA then to vote for the guy.  They need every vote they can get I suppose to balance the "irrational and mad" labs.
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Reply #11 - Aug 23rd, 2015 at 10:21am
 
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Aug 23rd, 2015 at 8:44am:
I don't know if he had any responsibility for this or not but from what I read in that article I wouldn't want that lunatic representing me in an office of responsibility under any circumstances.    


The SAS are the ultimate in trained killers. This story doesn't surprise me at all, it isn't even anywhere near some of the stories I've heard from people in the military and intelligence about the SAS.

A friend of mine who had to work with commandos, told me how they used to brag about the favourite thing they loved, was night missions where they go into a room, put a barrel of a gun to the heads of people sleeping, wake them up, and the fear in their eyes when they realize whats happening, then shooting them in the head. They used the BRAG about how fun this was.

Another friend told me that in one training thing they had to do, they had to have their squad or whatever guard an area for 3 days straight and protect it from 2 SAS commandos, those SAS commandos could literally sneak in the area they were in, get behind them, then they would start to play the "predator sound" and then get out without people noticing (when you've been awake for 3 days, this can bugger you up apparently  Grin )

One documentary I watched on a SAS sniper, had him literally crawling for 3 days straight, through enemy patrol patterns, they were basically walking on top of him, to get a shot at a enemy commander, then get the hell out of this heavily fortified enemy encampment. This is probably one of the most amazing things I've seen in my life, how he wasn't spotted when he was literally crawling within 1 meter of enemy guards and patrols was absolutely amazing.
What though put me off, was the interviews with the actual soldier... he came off a bit... psychopathic? You could tell he really loved killing people. Stories amazing, keep that buggerer away from me though especially if he's on the piss.

SAS may have amazing leadership skills, they do have near super human physical and mental skills, the math alone it takes to calculate a sniper shot, holy moly, they even have to take into account rotation of earth and earth curvature, but I'm still not convinced that translates well into representing people and being able to be empathetic.
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Reply #12 - Aug 23rd, 2015 at 10:26am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 23rd, 2015 at 6:57am:
He wasn't even there, yet that hasn't stopped Fauxfacts from publishing a lie in a puerile attempt to smear this outstanding Australian.


They did no such thing. ... the story even said that according to him, he wasn't there but in a helicopter overhead at the time and that he'd been cleared in previous investigations. It's not up to fairfax to find him innocent or guilty, its up to them to present the story as fairly as they can ... if it was the smellograph they would have omitted him not being there from the story altogether or that he'd already been cleared.
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Reply #13 - Aug 23rd, 2015 at 11:25am
 
He is a war-criminal and a demonstrated liar.

No wonder you clowns love him.
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Reply #14 - Aug 23rd, 2015 at 11:32am
 
Kat wrote on Aug 23rd, 2015 at 11:25am:
He is a war-criminal and a demonstrated liar.

No wonder you clowns love him.



I just think this guy has reached the bottom... and then he amazes me by going even lower...scum at least comes to the top... you are right down there with all the poo..where you will always remain...
unbelievable..
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