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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #90 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 5:41am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 10:33pm:

Why we need a royal commission into "unions"

Labor - 54
Coalition -46

Tony - the most hated prime minister of all time.

You're just pissed that the RC has uncovered so much corruption, intimidation and thuggery and has made both the Unions and Shorten and the ALP look very bad indeed.

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #91 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 8:50am

Vic wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

cods wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 7:08pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:44pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:39pm:

I'll do you a deal Lisa, I'll only do them in armpit threads.

Lol...ok.

Bottom line? No change.

As you can see, I wasn't aware there was a Poll War going on btwn you 2.

It's amazing to see just how creative online feuds can be these days. Tongue

Have you noticed its the same ones over and over they trash every thread with their oh so boring oneupmanship barbs.. so stupid and childish..

we need a trash board so we can send them all there where they can play who can make the worst insult /comment /jibe ..

I often wonder what they would do if they caught one of their kids exchanging gutter talk with someone out in the street for everyone to listen too...

because thats what these types do on here....

its the same ones over again. all being as personal as they can be I know I fall in the trap myself but I dont go on for pages and pages and pages and pages of insults.....which is where most threads end up...

and then some idiot suggest you read the thread... lolol.. right!

what was this thread about again? oh thats right lib bashing...anything to avoid the real topic.

And, you have just trashed this thread........

No she hasn't. YOU always do the honours of barging in and trashing topics Big Vic Fella Retarded.

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #92 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 8:52am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 5:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

Seriously, how many times do we need to talk about the same crap?

The exact same outcomes could've been obtained via normal police investigations.

Or, if we really want to stem out corruption then setup a body at the federal level. But not just looking into unions, but into lobby groups, political groups, industry groups, etc. etc. etc.

It's not like corruption is limited to unions. Tony Abbott himself is a corrupt person - should have an RC into just him?

Oooh - poll time!

Wrong. Police don't have the same powers as a Royal Commissioner. You can choose not to speak to Police but do not have that luxury at a Royal Commission. Try that and you can wind up in jail for contempt.

Yep. Absolutely correct AP.

Doctrine of Separation of Powers.

Look it up Sir Duke Olive Oil

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26259 Gender:	Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission Reply #93 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 8:52am Dnarever wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 9:49pm: Why we need a Union Royal Commission It would have been a much better idea then setting up the witch hunt we have. Funny that - it's found quite a few very dirty witches!
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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #94 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 8:56am

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 8:50am:

Vic wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

cods wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 7:08pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:44pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 6:39pm:

I'll do you a deal Lisa, I'll only do them in armpit threads.

Lol...ok.

Bottom line? No change.

As you can see, I wasn't aware there was a Poll War going on btwn you 2.

It's amazing to see just how creative online feuds can be these days. Tongue

Have you noticed its the same ones over and over they trash every thread with their oh so boring oneupmanship barbs.. so stupid and childish..

we need a trash board so we can send them all there where they can play who can make the worst insult /comment /jibe ..

I often wonder what they would do if they caught one of their kids exchanging gutter talk with someone out in the street for everyone to listen too...

because thats what these types do on here....

its the same ones over again. all being as personal as they can be I know I fall in the trap myself but I dont go on for pages and pages and pages and pages of insults.....which is where most threads end up...

and then some idiot suggest you read the thread... lolol.. right!

what was this thread about again? oh thats right lib bashing...anything to avoid the real topic.

And, you have just trashed this thread........

No she hasn't. YOU always do the honours of barging in and trashing topics Big Vic Fella Retarded.

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Vic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8309 Melbourne Victoria Gender:	Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission Reply #95 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 8:57am Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 8:52am: Dnarever wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 9:49pm: Why we need a Union Royal Commission It would have been a much better idea then setting up the witch hunt we have. Funny that - it's found quite a few very dirty witches! Very true - Bronny was one
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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #96 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:00am

Vic wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 8:57am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 8:52am:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 9:49pm:

Why we need a Union Royal Commission

It would have been a much better idea then setting up the witch hunt we have.

Funny that - it's found quite a few very dirty witches!

Very true - Bronny was one

She wasn't in a Union and never appeared at the RC. Try to keep up.

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #97 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:02am

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 8:52am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 5:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

Seriously, how many times do we need to talk about the same crap?

The exact same outcomes could've been obtained via normal police investigations.

Or, if we really want to stem out corruption then setup a body at the federal level. But not just looking into unions, but into lobby groups, political groups, industry groups, etc. etc. etc.

It's not like corruption is limited to unions. Tony Abbott himself is a corrupt person - should have an RC into just him?

Oooh - poll time!

Wrong. Police don't have the same powers as a Royal Commissioner. You can choose not to speak to Police but do not have that luxury at a Royal Commission. Try that and you can wind up in jail for contempt.

Yep. Absolutely correct AP.

Doctrine of Separation of Powers.

Look it up Sir Duke Olive Oil

....which has precisely zero relevance to a discussion about the coercive powers of a RC, and the powers of a copper.

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #98 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:08am

Aussie wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 8:52am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 5:39am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

Seriously, how many times do we need to talk about the same crap?

The exact same outcomes could've been obtained via normal police investigations.

Or, if we really want to stem out corruption then setup a body at the federal level. But not just looking into unions, but into lobby groups, political groups, industry groups, etc. etc. etc.

It's not like corruption is limited to unions. Tony Abbott himself is a corrupt person - should have an RC into just him?

Oooh - poll time!

Wrong. Police don't have the same powers as a Royal Commissioner. You can choose not to speak to Police but do not have that luxury at a Royal Commission. Try that and you can wind up in jail for contempt.

Yep. Absolutely correct AP.

Doctrine of Separation of Powers.

Look it up Sir Duke Olive Oil

....which has precisely zero relevance to a discussion about the coercive powers of a RC, and the powers of a copper.

My point stands, however. Police cannot force you to say anything, whereas a RC does have that power, with stiff penalties for contempt.

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #99 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:08am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 5:41am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 10:33pm:

Why we need a royal commission into "unions"

Labor - 54
Coalition -46

Tony - the most hated prime minister of all time.

You're just pissed that the RC has uncovered so much corruption, intimidation and thuggery and has made both the Unions and Shorten and the ALP look very bad indeed.

it hasn't uncovered anything substantive yet ...they've got a couple questions about a couple of 2 tier union employees. Like everything else the libs touch, charges will be dropped in a few months due to lack of evidence Cheesy

it's going to be a flop just like his witch hunt on gillard

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #100 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:09am

Johnsmith wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 10:38pm:

further proof we need an RC into the liberal parties corrupt actions with business

Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger wrote to party members to advise them that MP mail-outs were handled by a printing company that allegedly paid kickbacks to former party state director Damian Mantach.

"Our own preliminary enquiries seem to point to Mr Mantach having entered into an arrangement with an external mail house whereby Mr Mantach encouraged the mail house to increase invoices for work undertaken for both the party and for some Victorian and Federal Liberal Party MPs, so as to charge more than was actually owing," the letter read.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-25/victorian-liberals-pay-back-almost-200000/...

bump for the idiots pretending to be so concerned with corruption

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #101 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:09am

Johnsmith wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:08am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 5:41am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 10:33pm:

Why we need a royal commission into "unions"

Labor - 54
Coalition -46

Tony - the most hated prime minister of all time.

You're just pissed that the RC has uncovered so much corruption, intimidation and thuggery and has made both the Unions and Shorten and the ALP look very bad indeed.

it hasn't uncovered anything substantive yet ...they've got a couple questions about a couple of 2 tier union employees. Like everything else the libs touch, charges will be dropped in a few months due to lack of evidence Cheesy

it's going to be a flop just like his witch hunt on gillard

Bribery, intimidation, kickbacks - that's nothing to you? Wait, of course it is - we're talking about YOU!

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #102 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:11am

easel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

I've seen this, and witnessed this, personally:

In the early 2000's, there was an ex special forces soldier, extremely loyal to his country.

He was told that he was going to be offered a job in intelligence. His job was to plant a bomb in a public place to cause panic and not kill anyone.

He agreed.

On the way to performing the action, he was arrested, detained in secret and went to trial.

The Pentagon found out and ASIO and AFP lost their employment contracts.

The reason it happened was because he was an upstanding soldier, loyal to a fault, and people who did not have the fortitude to enter in to a combat zone overseas were jealous and wanted to ruin him, leaving him with the thoughts that he had risked his life and killed in the past, and put his spiritual integrity in the hands of others, for a cause that didn't want or need him.

He was exonerated and ASIO and the AFP are still feeling the international sanctions to this day.

That sounds like another Grappler 'story'. We will feel free to simply ignore it as pyschotic fantasy.

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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission Reply #103 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:14am More ethical posters would see that an RC into Union Corruption should present no problems to anyone other than corrupt unionists. So why would anyone complain about corruption anywhere being discovered and penalised? And THAT is the real question.
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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #104 - Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:20am

mariacostel wrote on Aug 26^th, 2015 at 9:14am:

More ethical posters would see that an RC into Union Corruption should present no problems to anyone other than corrupt unionists. So why would anyone complain about corruption anywhere being discovered and penalised?

And THAT is the real question.

Unite with us on our request for a federal ICAC then , if Abort was dinkum about stomping on corruption he would've tabled a bipartisan agreement by now , he certainly is looking rather foolish after we seem to be hearing more about Lib corruption of late .

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