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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #15 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:15pm

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:00pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 4:54pm:

Link please. Because we all know you cant.

Once again you prove you haven't a clue what you are on about Cheesy

https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/qld-lnps-donations-fo...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-30/call-political-donation-reform-after-mafia...

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/3241673/call-to-investigate-agls-political-don...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-21/nt-political-parties-fail-to-properly-disc...

And as expected, you proved no such proof. Police investigations and a complaint by someone are two very different things as you clearly and repeatedly fail to understand.

Meanwhile, union leaders are being investigated, charged and jailed from criminal acts. Try and stay on the actual topic.

claims? 11 liberal member were caught by NSW ICAC taking brown paper bags full of cash and you think it's just claims? Grin

you should stop living in denial all the time.

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #16 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:17pm

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 4:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 4:57pm:

Here is the entire:

Link.

I don't see this as a justification for a RC when whatever it is is uncovered by police work in the first place...and then handed to the RC.

It is an unnecessary middle man.

Wrong. It was uncovered by investigators working with the RC. You are lying.

....and who do you reckon those investigators are, melielongtime? Where do you reckon they got plucked from. Some secret cave where dormant RC investigators live and whenever there is a RC, they come prancing out?

And so you keep on defending criminal behaviour? Well of course you do. What Taxi driver hasn't done time (or will)?

So, I assume you now understand that the RC investigators are coppers.

Yeas?

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LaQuinn Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 195 Gender:	Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission Reply #17 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:17pm Johnsmith wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 4:53pm: police in 3 states are also investigation donations to the libs ... can we have an RC into political donations too? Agreed. There needs to much more transparency in donations.
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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #18 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:19pm

LaQuinn wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 4:53pm:

police in 3 states are also investigation donations to the libs ... can we have an RC into political donations too?

Agreed. There needs to much more transparency in donations.

Actually, I think they should be banned altogether. Elections should be fully govt. funded. The rest of what political parties do can be fuinded by charging their members fee's.

That way we might get governments that put the people ahead of their donors

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #19 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:36pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 4:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 4:57pm:

Here is the entire:

Link.

I don't see this as a justification for a RC when whatever it is is uncovered by police work in the first place...and then handed to the RC.

It is an unnecessary middle man.

Wrong. It was uncovered by investigators working with the RC. You are lying.

....and who do you reckon those investigators are, melielongtime? Where do you reckon they got plucked from. Some secret cave where dormant RC investigators live and whenever there is a RC, they come prancing out?

And so you keep on defending criminal behaviour? Well of course you do. What Taxi driver hasn't done time (or will)?

So, I assume you now understand that the RC investigators are coppers.

Yeas?

Assigned to investigate alongside the RC. Correct?

But the important thing is why you continue to reject ANY INVESTIGATION into the unions. Are you on the take yourself?

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #20 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:38pm

There are far more things worthy of a royal commission. How about one on the financial scandal such as Storm? Every large group has its own corruption/problem. I doubt that millions spent was well worth it.

However, given Maria and her history of posts (after all what happen to the posts she started, such as Brons's/Burke travel costs?) I don't think he actually cares to scrutinise her team. It would be too heretical - she would have to burn herself on the stake before she dares to question.

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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission Reply #21 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:44pm stunspore wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:38pm: It would be too heretical - she would have to burn herself on the stake before she dares to question.
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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #22 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:44pm

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:03pm:

mariacostel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 4:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 4:57pm:

Here is the entire:

Link.

I don't see this as a justification for a RC when whatever it is is uncovered by police work in the first place...and then handed to the RC.

It is an unnecessary middle man.

Wrong. It was uncovered by investigators working with the RC. You are lying.

....and who do you reckon those investigators are, melielongtime? Where do you reckon they got plucked from. Some secret cave where dormant RC investigators live and whenever there is a RC, they come prancing out?

And so you keep on defending criminal behaviour? Well of course you do. What Taxi driver hasn't done time (or will)?

So, I assume you now understand that the RC investigators are coppers.

Yeas?

Assigned to investigate alongside the RC. Correct?

But the important thing is why you continue to reject ANY INVESTIGATION into the unions. Are you on the take yourself?

So, now you back pedal on telling me I was a liar when I posted this:

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I don't see this as a justification for a RC when whatever it is is uncovered by police work in the first place...and then handed to the RC.

It is an unnecessary middle man.

Gawd, you are atrocious.

Further, if you can show me where I did this:

Quote:

But the important thing is why you continue to reject ANY INVESTIGATION into the unions. Are you on the take yourself

....I will donate $1,000.00 to any charity you nominate.

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #23 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:45pm

Seriously, how many times do we need to talk about the same crap?

The exact same outcomes could've been obtained via normal police investigations.

Or, if we really want to stem out corruption then setup a body at the federal level. But not just looking into unions, but into lobby groups, political groups, industry groups, etc. etc. etc.

It's not like corruption is limited to unions. Tony Abbott himself is a corrupt wanker - should have an RC into just him?

Oooh - poll time!

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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission Reply #24 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:47pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:45pm: Or, if we really want to stem out corruption then setup a body at the federal level. But not just looking into unions, but into lobby groups, political groups, industry groups, etc. etc. etc. We need a federal ICAC
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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #25 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:50pm

Johnsmith wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:47pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

Or, if we really want to stem out corruption then setup a body at the federal level. But not just looking into unions, but into lobby groups, political groups, industry groups, etc. etc. etc.

We need a federal ICAC

Imagine the stench it would find.

But no, let's just concentrate on unions. Because that's where the core of the problem is. Cheesy

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Re: Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Reply #26 - Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:53pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2015 at 5:44pm: