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Why we need a Union Royal Commission
Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:51pm
 
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/cfmeu-bosses-may-face-criminal-charges/a...

Police in three states are investigating the most senior leaders of the CFMEU for allegations ranging from receiving secret commissions to blackmail as a result of evidence gathered by investigators working alongside the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption.

A Fairfax Media investigation can reveal the CFMEU's national president and Labor factional boss Dave Hanna has quit the union as a major criminal investigation examines allegations that he took secret commissions.

Hanna, who until his resignation this month was also the CFMEU's Queensland president and was previously a state ALP vice-president, is the subject of a joint state and federal police inquiry into allegations concerning kickbacks and the operations of a union fund.

In Victoria, the most senior bosses of the CFMEU's construction division are also facing serious criminal allegations of blackmail.

A Victoria Police taskforce, Heracles​, has recently taken witness statements from multiple construction industry figures as detectives attempt to charge Victorian CFMEU secretary John Setka and his deputy, Shaun Reardon, with blackmail in connection to the union's campaign against concrete firm Boral.

Police witnesses have been advised by detectives that a criminal brief against Mr Setka and Mr Reardon has been completed and that police are waiting to receive legal advice before laying charges.

The CFMEU's NSW secretary Brian Parker is also being investigated by police after phone taps were recently aired at the union royal commission, which revealed his close relationship with organised crime figure, and allegedly crooked labour hire firm boss, George Alex.   

The police investigations are now effectively targeting the CFMEU's most powerful figures across three states and, if they result in charges and convictions, could be fatal to the union's hope of avoiding being deregistered or placed into administration.


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Reply #1 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:53pm
 
police in 3 states are also investigation donations to the libs ... can we have an RC into political donations too?
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Reply #2 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:54pm
 
And THIS is why we need regular inquiries and Royal Commissions into the unions. Despite multiple adverse findings, criminal convictions and jail terms, they don't learn. They go back for more embezzlement, bribery and intimidation.
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Reply #3 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:54pm
 
Johnsmith wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:53pm:
police in 3 states are also investigation donations to the libs ... can we have an RC into political donations too?


Link please. Because we all know you cant.
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Reply #4 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:57pm
 
Here is the entire:

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I don't see this as a justification for a RC when whatever it is is uncovered by police work in the first place...and then handed to the RC.

It is an unnecessary middle man.
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Reply #5 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:58pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:57pm:
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I don't see this as a justification for a RC when whatever it is is uncovered by police work in the first place...and then handed to the RC.

It is an unnecessary middle man.


Wrong. It was uncovered by investigators working with the RC. You are lying.
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Reply #6 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:00pm
 
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Reply #7 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:02pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:51pm:
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/cfmeu-bosses-may-face-criminal-charges/a...

Police in three states are investigating the most senior leaders of the CFMEU for allegations ranging from receiving secret commissions to blackmail as a result of evidence gathered by investigators working alongside the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption.

A Fairfax Media investigation can reveal the CFMEU's national president and Labor factional boss Dave Hanna has quit the union as a major criminal investigation examines allegations that he took secret commissions.

Hanna, who until his resignation this month was also the CFMEU's Queensland president and was previously a state ALP vice-president, is the subject of a joint state and federal police inquiry into allegations concerning kickbacks and the operations of a union fund.

In Victoria, the most senior bosses of the CFMEU's construction division are also facing serious criminal allegations of blackmail.

A Victoria Police taskforce, Heracles​, has recently taken witness statements from multiple construction industry figures as detectives attempt to charge Victorian CFMEU secretary John Setka and his deputy, Shaun Reardon, with blackmail in connection to the union's campaign against concrete firm Boral.

Police witnesses have been advised by detectives that a criminal brief against Mr Setka and Mr Reardon has been completed and that police are waiting to receive legal advice before laying charges.

The CFMEU's NSW secretary Brian Parker is also being investigated by police after phone taps were recently aired at the union royal commission, which revealed his close relationship with organised crime figure, and allegedly crooked labour hire firm boss, George Alex.   

The police investigations are now effectively targeting the CFMEU's most powerful figures across three states and, if they result in charges and convictions, could be fatal to the union's hope of avoiding being deregistered or placed into administration.


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Reply #8 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:03pm
 
Did I hear the word 'kickbacks'?  Kickbacks are like rugby - it takes one to pass and one to receive..... what is with this concentration on the receiver of the pass?

I can just see that one on the NRL:-

"Oh - that's two yards forward!  And the referee is penalising the player who accepted the pass!"

"But shouldn't that be a scrum with the defending team getting the ball?"

"Not under the new RC rules, Rabbits - under these rules the player who knowingly or unknowingly accepts a forward pass is automatically guilty!"

"But what happens when that player intercepts the ball as its coming forward from the opposing side?"

"Still a penalty, Rabbits - that's RC rules."


Extra-ooordinary!
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Reply #9 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:03pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:58pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:57pm:
Here is the entire:

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I don't see this as a justification for a RC when whatever it is is uncovered by police work in the first place...and then handed to the RC.

It is an unnecessary middle man.


Wrong. It was uncovered by investigators working with the RC. You are lying.


....and who do you reckon those investigators are, melielongtime?  Where do you reckon they got plucked from.  Some secret cave where dormant RC investigators live and whenever there is a RC, they come prancing out?
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Reply #10 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:06pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:58pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:57pm:
Here is the entire:

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I don't see this as a justification for a RC when whatever it is is uncovered by police work in the first place...and then handed to the RC.

It is an unnecessary middle man.


Wrong. It was uncovered by investigators working with the RC. You are lying.


.. and these investigators are?
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Reply #11 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:09pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:06pm:
mariacostel wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:58pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:57pm:
Here is the entire:

Link.

I don't see this as a justification for a RC when whatever it is is uncovered by police work in the first place...and then handed to the RC.

It is an unnecessary middle man.


Wrong. It was uncovered by investigators working with the RC. You are lying.


.. and these investigators are?


Special secret squirrels........cave dwellers, they be.
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Reply #12 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:10pm
 
Johnsmith wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:00pm:


And as expected, you proved no such proof. Police investigations and a complaint by someone are two very different things as you clearly and repeatedly fail to understand.

Meanwhile, union leaders are being investigated, charged and jailed from criminal acts. Try and stay on the actual topic.
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Reply #13 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:11pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:03pm:
mariacostel wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:58pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:57pm:
Here is the entire:

Link.

I don't see this as a justification for a RC when whatever it is is uncovered by police work in the first place...and then handed to the RC.

It is an unnecessary middle man.


Wrong. It was uncovered by investigators working with the RC. You are lying.


....and who do you reckon those investigators are, melielongtime?  Where do you reckon they got plucked from.  Some secret cave where dormant RC investigators live and whenever there is a RC, they come prancing out?



And so you keep on defending criminal behaviour? Well of course you do. What Taxi driver hasn't done time (or will)?
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Reply #14 - Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:11pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 5:06pm:
mariacostel wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:58pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 25th, 2015 at 4:57pm:
Here is the entire:

Link.

I don't see this as a justification for a RC when whatever it is is uncovered by police work in the first place...and then handed to the RC.

It is an unnecessary middle man.


Wrong. It was uncovered by investigators working with the RC. You are lying.


.. and these investigators are?


Don't know. Don't care. Why do you?
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