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Redmond Neck

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Are parents to blame for radicalisation
Sep 5^th, 2015 at 4:56pm

I heard an interesting interview with a muslim who is studying why young muslims are radicalised. It was on ABC RN Saturday Extra this morning. (Still looking for a poscast)

He reckoned it starts in the family, where the children are really discouraged from mixing with christians and other religions.

A big fear is marrying into other religions so the children are discouraged from mixing

The children grow up with a sense of not belonging in the local society

They tend to the find like minded individuals in their mosques and this can lead to looking for a purpose in life (ISIS)

What are your thoughts?

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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation Reply #1 - Sep 5^th, 2015 at 4:57pm Are parents to blame for radicalisation I blame Ciobo
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation Reply #2 - Sep 5^th, 2015 at 5:52pm Johnsmith wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 4:57pm: Are parents to blame for radicalisation I blame Ciobo Now why would you say an idiot thing if you were not, in fact, an idiot?
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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation Reply #3 - Sep 5^th, 2015 at 5:55pm Soren wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 5:52pm: Johnsmith wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 4:57pm: Are parents to blame for radicalisation I blame Ciobo Now why would you say an idiot thing if you were not, in fact, an idiot? I write for an audience of idiots ... don't ever say I don't try to please you Soren
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Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation
Reply #4 - Sep 5^th, 2015 at 5:55pm

Blame individual families? That’s exactly what they want you to believe. But the radicalization is a myth which apologists love to use to excuse Islam for atrocities committed in its name by the faithful. Islam is about two things: the belief that Mohamed spoke with angels and is the messenger of God. The other is the Koran. Once people soak up this crap, there is no difference between the any of them as far as us Infidels are concerned. Koran 8:12 “Cut their heads off.” There are fifteen different translations that all come out the same. It’s not radical, it’s just Islam.

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Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation
Reply #5 - Sep 5^th, 2015 at 6:18pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 4:56pm:

He reckoned it starts in the family, where the children are really discouraged from mixing with christians and other religions.

What are your thoughts?

What is a radical muslim,is it someone who believes in death for apostasy/blasphemy/adultery/homosexuality or do they have to chop heads off and blow up innocent people to be considered fundamental?

Muslims claim to worship the same god,if you read all translations of this verse you will figure out what allah is trying to say.
quran.com/5/51

This video has English subtitles, white Bosnian muslims who followed that war criminal Naser Oric, he provoked the Serbs then claimed they were the victims in a conflict they started.

The lefties love Islam

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Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation
Reply #6 - Sep 30^th, 2015 at 9:10am

I have tried asking Gandalf about the death for homosexuality thing. I think he is still undecided.

Terrorism is caused by alienation. As a fellow Australian, Gandalf shares some of the blame for this. But as a fellow Muslim, it has nothing to do with him. To stop terrorism we need to address the genuine grievances held by all Muslims, except for the terrorists, who are the only Muslims who are not actually pissed off. These grievances boil down to one thing - people drawing pictures of Muhammed. But we mustn't 'get' them to stop drawing the pictures. We must get them to convert to Islam instead, so that they freely choose to stop drawing pictures of Muhammed. It is the only way we can know peace.

I hope this clarifies the issue for you.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation Reply #7 - Sep 30^th, 2015 at 9:21am freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2015 at 9:10am: I have tried asking Gandalf about the death for homosexuality thing. I think he is still undecided. But you're not undecided are you FD? You decided for me - that I definitely want to slaughter gays for flaunting their sexuality "mardis gras style".
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49212 At my desk.	Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation Reply #8 - Sep 30^th, 2015 at 1:19pm Who is to blame for your radicalisation Gandalf? Who alienated you? And most importantly of all, under what circumstances should we kill gay people?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96171 Gender:	Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation Reply #9 - Sep 30^th, 2015 at 1:35pm freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2015 at 1:19pm: And most importantly of all, under what circumstances should we kill gay people? At the Mardi Gras, isn't it? You have to kill both the giver and the receiver. G has always been very specific about this, FD. You've quoted his beliefs that you wrote many times.
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Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation
Reply #10 - Sep 30^th, 2015 at 2:16pm

It's those kids who spend their most tender and suggestible years growing up in culturally insular Muslim homes where Islam predominates in every aspect of life who end up as the ones fully 'tooled-up' by the time they 'Get the Call' to active jihad.

It's those kids who have embraced Islam the most - not the least, who get the urge to go and try their luck at being a Warrior for Islam against the Unbelievers and the apostates.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96171 Gender:	Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation Reply #11 - Sep 30^th, 2015 at 2:44pm Johnsmith wrote on Sep 5^th, 2015 at 5:55pm: don't ever say I don't try to please you Soren You're permitted to do that. It's the offending the old boy can't stand. He does have rights, you know.
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Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation
Reply #12 - Sep 30^th, 2015 at 4:30pm

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:

Who is to blame for your radicalisation Gandalf? Who alienated you?

And most importantly of all, under what circumstances should we kill gay people?

Why are you asking? You clearly don't need my input when deciding what gandalf says about such matters. Just make some sh*t up like you always do.

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Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation
Reply #13 - Sep 30^th, 2015 at 5:54pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 30^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:

Who is to blame for your radicalisation Gandalf? Who alienated you?

And most importantly of all, under what circumstances should we kill gay people?

Why are you asking?

Now now, G, sometimes a question is just a question, remember.

Now, which form of execution should we give the hommers (both the giver and receiver)?

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Re: Are parents to blame for radicalisation
Reply #14 - Sep 30^th, 2015 at 5:58pm

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2015 at 1:19pm:

Who is to blame for your radicalisation Gandalf? Who alienated you?

And most importantly of all, under what circumstances should we kill gay people?

I have never gleaned even the remotest notion that Gandalf is either radicalised or alienated.

What gives you this impression FD?

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