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Would you like to hazard a guess at my true reasons?

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Well, I suppose that settles it.

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Sounds good. Is that what you are peddling Gandalf?

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2015 at 8:41pm:


If muslims started saying that certain specific commands (allegedly) coming from Muhammad should be relegated to the "its only for that place and time" category - Islamic law could dispense with a whole range of barbaric laws - including stoning for adultery, death for apostasy and executing gays.

Its what you called for in 2008. You haven't explained properly why you don't support it now - and why you think such an exercise is "pointless".

Objectively, there is no logical reason why anyone should think its not a worthwhile way to start reforming Islam.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 1:59pm:



'commands 'allegedly' coming from Muhammed'.
I like that. Who alleges that they come from Mohammed?  Muslims.

What you are calling for, Gandy, is that Muslims have an internal dialogue about Islamic doctrine and Mohammed's role and ongoing influence in Islam. Seeing that Muslims would rather blow up, burn alive, behead and otherwise murderously degrade each other, I don't see where the motivation for internal dialogues about doctrine, alleged or otherwise, would come from. There is simply no history of Muslims engaging in fruitful, reasoned, peaceful ecumenical dialogue with each other.

I don't see your Paki, Saudi, Labian, Egyptian, Afghan and other tribal imam rethinking Islam and Mohammed.

Nor do you.  So you are talking fantasy and you know it - ie taqiyya.

Karnal wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 7:25pm:

Soooo.... which particular Islamic doctrine will Muslims give up in order to reform themselves along the lines Gandy suggests they want to?



It's all very well for you to fap and sneer and be snide on the sidelines, Paki Bugger. You do this every single time when the need is for some constructive ideas.  You wank, you sneer, you duck and grin and sVck Gandys' d!ck but at the end of it all you are lost for ideas.  All you have is glibness and idiocy.

You are Gandy most eloquent supporter. That should be massive warning to him and all Muslims which he studiously ignores. Neither of you will honestly face the massive task before Muslims.  You both make it out as if it was still the non-Muslims who carry the responsibility for Muslim actions and reputation. But that has long past. You both live in circa 2003.

Look at the anti-Muslim sentiment in the last 15 years. Has it abated or has it increased? It has increased despite the millions of dollars of propaganda and the endless media inclusivity. There is a disconnect here that will erupt rather than melt away. What is at stake is too important.

Soren wrote on Oct 12^th, 2015 at 9:09pm:


I think you'll agree its low intellect when it comes to PB. The old boy is resigned to the fact he's never going to be accepted so its keyboard mufti time. That's about all he can muster and is very repetitive at that. Hide, moan, groan and snicker and pretend everyone else is the old boy and not him. Poor old chap he is.

I couldn't care if you were standing on your head with your head in a full dunny can. You add nothing here or anywhere else.

Who is us ? , you and your qu'ran roll that is on the wall beside your dunny.

Why even come to our country ? you are big and tuff behind your keyboard stirring shyte up. That's your life, hiding behind your keyboard. You're nothing but a coward.

Why not go back to the dump you came from instead of creating one of your dumps here, and coming here just to piss people off. You learn nothing, you contribute nothing.