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Reply #165 - Oct 14^th, 2015 at 6:27pm

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*facepalm* show me the quote FD.

Sure. Here is one I prepared 6 minutes earlier. Thanks to Gandalf:

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Today's Muhammad/Islam caricatures are not very different - they cleverly associate racist arabic depictions (eg long thin nose, deep heavy eyebrows, heavy dark eyes etc) with negative muslim attributes. Just further proof, if any is needed, that Islamophobia is a form of racism.

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There is absolutely no reason why exercising editorial control cannot be self-censorship.

It can be, but the fact that they do exercise editorial control is not evidence of self censorship. This is usually where the argument ends - Charlie Hebdo declined to publish such and such, therefor they are self censoring.

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If their only reason not to publish was a perceived backlash from the jewish lobby, then its self-censorship.

Are you suggesting Charlie Hebdo is afraid of a Jewish backlash?

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Parker has satirized Jesus (or more accurately, Christians) for years

Both Jesus and Santa are regular characters.

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That Mo comes off as second best in most of these strips is due to the evident and completely undeniable savagery and violence of his followers.

And Muhammed himself.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: the meaning of freedom Reply #166 - Oct 16^th, 2015 at 11:09am freediver wrote on Oct 14^th, 2015 at 6:27pm: Sure. Here is one I prepared 6 minutes earlier. Thanks to Gandalf: What a monumentally stupid thing to say FD. Islamophobia is not "all criticism of Islam" - gedit????
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averageguy Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 235 Gender:	Re: the meaning of freedom Reply #167 - Oct 16^th, 2015 at 11:15am It would seem that way according to muslims and apologists. the first word trotted out is Islamophobia. Islamophobia is actually a fear of Islam. Something most muslims suffer from themselves.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49280 At my desk.	Re: the meaning of freedom Reply #168 - Oct 16^th, 2015 at 12:52pm Islamophobia. Pictures of Muhammed. What else is racist Gandalf? Also, when did you realise that self censorship was a bad thing? Was it when you decided to become a standard bearer?
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Re: the meaning of freedom
Reply #169 - Oct 16^th, 2015 at 1:16pm

averageguy wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 11:15am:

It would seem that way according to muslims and apologists.
the first word trotted out is Islamophobia.

Islamophobia is actually a fear of Islam. Something most muslims suffer from themselves.

Good to have a new member join in our little discussion, Average. Welcome aboard.

If anyone accuses you of being Matty, make sure you deny it.

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Re: the meaning of freedom
Reply #170 - Oct 16^th, 2015 at 1:25pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

averageguy wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 11:15am:

It would seem that way according to muslims and apologists.
the first word trotted out is Islamophobia.

Islamophobia is actually a fear of Islam. Something most muslims suffer from themselves.

Good to have a new member join in our little discussion, Average. Welcome aboard.

If anyone accuses you of being Matty, make sure you deny it.

If anyone ever accuses you of being an imbecile don't deny it.

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Re: the meaning of freedom
Reply #171 - Oct 16^th, 2015 at 1:43pm

averageguy wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 1:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

averageguy wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 11:15am:

It would seem that way according to muslims and apologists.
the first word trotted out is Islamophobia.

Islamophobia is actually a fear of Islam. Something most muslims suffer from themselves.

Good to have a new member join in our little discussion, Average. Welcome aboard.

If anyone accuses you of being Matty, make sure you deny it.

If anyone ever accuses you of being an imbecile don't deny it.

Thanks, Average. I must say, that’s not the sort of language we’d expect from a new member.

You haven’t been here before, have you?

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Re: the meaning of freedom
Reply #172 - Oct 16^th, 2015 at 1:47pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 1:43pm:

averageguy wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 1:25pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

averageguy wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 11:15am:

It would seem that way according to muslims and apologists.
the first word trotted out is Islamophobia.

Islamophobia is actually a fear of Islam. Something most muslims suffer from themselves.

Good to have a new member join in our little discussion, Average. Welcome aboard.

If anyone accuses you of being Matty, make sure you deny it.

If anyone ever accuses you of being an imbecile don't deny it.

Thanks, Average. I must say, that’s not the sort of language we’d expect from a new member.

You haven’t been here before, have you?

There is no we, just you. No need to get upset that I can smell a troll like yourself a mile away though.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96294 Gender:	Re: the meaning of freedom Reply #173 - Oct 16^th, 2015 at 6:14pm You didn’t answer the question, Average. If you’re an old member, just say who. We’ll all welcome you back, you know.
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Re: the meaning of freedom
Reply #174 - Oct 16^th, 2015 at 6:54pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

You didn’t answer the question, Average. If you’re an old member, just say who. We’ll all welcome you back, you know.

It was a good answer though. I am astonished at how many posts with requests, demands include a "we".

It is a collective and bullying behaviour to presume to speak for others or assume a mantle of authority from majority.

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Re: the meaning of freedom
Reply #175 - Oct 16^th, 2015 at 8:31pm

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 6:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

You didn’t answer the question, Average. If you’re an old member, just say who. We’ll all welcome you back, you know.

It was a good answer though. I am astonished at how many posts with requests, demands include a "we".

It is a collective and bullying behaviour to presume to speak for others or assume a mantle of authority from majority.

I don’t know, Secret. What if we have a collection of socks we’re speaking on behalf of?

What’s wrong with that?

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Re: the meaning of freedom
Reply #176 - Oct 16^th, 2015 at 8:54pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 8:31pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 6:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

You didn’t answer the question, Average. If you’re an old member, just say who. We’ll all welcome you back, you know.

It was a good answer though. I am astonished at how many posts with requests, demands include a "we".

It is a collective and bullying behaviour to presume to speak for others or assume a mantle of authority from majority.

I don’t know, Secret. What if we have a collection of socks we’re speaking on behalf of?

What’s wrong with that?

A we of one speaking as a collective. Roll Eyes

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averageguy Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 235 Gender:	Re: the meaning of freedom Reply #177 - Oct 16^th, 2015 at 10:55pm Karnal wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 6:14pm: You didn’t answer the question, Average. If you’re an old member, just say who. We’ll all welcome you back, you know. I don't need to answer trolls and again there is no we just YOU troll.
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Re: the meaning of freedom
Reply #178 - Oct 17^th, 2015 at 8:39am

averageguy wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

You didn’t answer the question, Average. If you’re an old member, just say who. We’ll all welcome you back, you know.

I don't need to answer trolls and again there is no we just YOU troll.

We blame Islam here, Average. We don’t want them in our country.

Better?

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Re: the meaning of freedom
Reply #179 - Oct 17^th, 2015 at 12:08pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 17^th, 2015 at 8:39am:

averageguy wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 16^th, 2015 at 6:14pm:

You didn’t answer the question, Average. If you’re an old member, just say who. We’ll all welcome you back, you know.

I don't need to answer trolls and again there is no we just YOU troll.

We blame Islam here, Average. We don’t want them in our country.

Better?

I thought people that call themselves Palestinians such as yourself Grin

were too busy blaming Israel and making up fake films and fake families they blew up. I am not sure why a muslim such as yourself wouldn't want muslims in your country Israel.

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