Quote:Does someone refrain from saying something offensive because they want to? = not self censorship
Does someone refrain from saying something offensive - against their will purely by the fear (real or perceived) of what someone else might do in reaction (ie intimidated into doing so)? = self censorship.
The newspaper who refrains from "fanning the flames" falls into the former.
I see. So it is not self censorship if you merely want to avoid having your head hacked off by a crazy Muslim? But it is self censorship if you fear having your head hacked off by a crazy Muslim?
Quote:Your spineless insistence that people should not, in the interests of freedom, speak their mind about Muhammad cartoons through fear of agreeing with the terrorists = self censorship. It really is that straight forward FD.
Quote me.
Quote:In fact if we dig deeper, it reflects a more broader pattern of behaviour of yours here. Case in point: sprint is in here day in day out calling for Islam to be banned, muslims to be deported en-masse, mosques to be burned, muslims to be dumped in the desert etc etc. In 2007 you would have been all over him like a rash. Now you seem to go to great pains to tiptoe around not only him, but an entire legion of islamophobes here calling for the rights of muslims in the west to be systematically stripped. Apart from a token once in a blue moon word or two against banning the burqa, your silence towards these freedom haters is deafening.
Have you read my thread on the general board? We are having an interesting discussion about Sprint talking to some Muslims he knows about Islam.
Quote:Clearly you have an agenda against Islam, which in itself is not wrong, but using freedom as a flimsy pretext with such a blatant double standard is.
Is this like your rant about people using wishy wahsy western liberal morals to cynically smear Islam?
Quote:This was always evident in the way you tiptoe around incessant attacks on the freedoms of muslims
You have actually defended me against this sort of accusation before, citing examples of me defending the freedoms of Muslims.
Quote:On the other side, corporate Australia will work overtime through the media to demonize the muslim population - using terrorism as the excuse. Through a concerted and cleverly targeted propaganda campaign, the transition in societal attitudes from "its only a radical fringe" to "actually this is real Islam" will start to eventuate. The political/legal side will of course compliment and reinforce the cultural side and vise versa.
It would be hard to outdo the efforts of your fellow Muslims to demonise Islam.
Quote:Slowly the cultural transition will sift through to local administrative matters: mosque applications will of course be rejected, community events will stop inviting local muslim representatives, acts of vandalism and random attacks against muslims couldn't be ignored, but it will inevitably give a platform for the "while we condemn lawlessness and violence - there is an issue here with the muslim community that we shouldn't ignore" debate - which can only help the fight against Islam.
Sounds like the standard Mufti response to terrorism.
Quote:Muslims will of course lash out - exactly as intended.
Surely not Gandalf. What makes you think Muslims would over-react like that?
Quote:For a long time muslim institutions (mosques, schools) will survive, but they will be entirely isolated, cut off from their community, its members tribalised and defensive. For the non-muslims, every Islamic landmark will be etched on everyone's mind as places to be deeply suspicious of. Furthermore, because of the withdrawal of community support, they become run down and dilapidated, renovations are abandoned, grounds are no longer maintained - as no source of funds to maintain them are available.
So the government will stop funding Islam? Nice to see you have the Islamic victimhood mentality planned out so far in advance. What is your excuse for the terrorism that is already going on? Is it George Bush's fault?