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Reply #315 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:46pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 3:40pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 3:02pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 2:00pm:
err.. I'm right that hatred of Islam can be racist.

But then you must alsao concede that the Muslim hatred of the West (whites) and of the Jews is also racist.



Muslim hatred of Jews is definitely racist. Muslim hatred of "the West" comes from a list of grievances.




Oh f Vck orff with the Muslim grievance mongering already.  The goddamned Muslims invaded Europe first, the Muslims kidnapped a million European first. They invaded Christian Rome first.

Kicking Muslim arse is always IN RESPONSE to Muslim aggression.  EVERY time it was the Muslims who started it. EVERY time.
But they want us to think of them as the bloody victims, the skinny little runts.



Throw them to the ground, the bloody aggressors.  They need to take responsibility for their terrorism, their ideology, their separatism, their hostility. Nobody is going to like them while they are like this.


Islam invaded first, Islam kidnapped first, Islam terrorised first, Islam proclaimed its superiority and its jihad first.  Everything that comes its way is response to its supremacist aggression.


In Joan Rivers's immortal words, "THEY STARTED IT".i

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Reply #316 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:51pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 3:40pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 3:02pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 2:00pm:
err.. I'm right that hatred of Islam can be racist.

But then you must alsao concede that the Muslim hatred of the West (whites) and of the Jews is also racist.



Muslim hatred of Jews is definitely racist. Muslim hatred of "the West" comes from a list of grievances.


Oh f Vck orff with the Muslim grievance mongering already.  The goddamned Muslims invaded Europe first, the Muslims kidnapped a million European first. They invaded Christian Rome first.  Kicking Muslim arse is always IN RESPONSE to Muslim aggression.  EVERY time it was the Muslims who started it. EVERY time.
But they want us to think of them as the bloody victims, the skinny little runts.



Throw them to the ground, the bloody aggressors.  They need to take responsibility for their terrorism, their ideology, their separatism, their hostility. Nobody is going to like them while they are like this.


Islam invaded first, Islam kidnapped first, Islam terrorised first, Islam proclaimed its superiority and its jihad first.  Everything that comes its way is response to its supremacist aggression.


In Joan Rivers's immortal words, "THEY STARTED IT".





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Reply #317 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:00pm
 
Europe probably owes it's survival to the mongols, who near annihilated the muselmen before the muselmen could annihilate Europe.  They sure gave it a try though, and we shouldnt give them another chance.
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Reply #318 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:06pm
 
Soren wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:46pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 3:40pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 3:02pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 2:00pm:
err.. I'm right that hatred of Islam can be racist.

But then you must alsao concede that the Muslim hatred of the West (whites) and of the Jews is also racist.



Muslim hatred of Jews is definitely racist. Muslim hatred of "the West" comes from a list of grievances.




Oh f Vck orff with the Muslim grievance mongering already.  The goddamned Muslims invaded Europe first, the Muslims kidnapped a million European first. They invaded Christian Rome first.

Kicking Muslim arse is always IN RESPONSE to Muslim aggression.  EVERY time it was the Muslims who started it. EVERY time.
But they want us to think of them as the bloody victims, the skinny little runts.



Throw them to the ground, the bloody aggressors.  They need to take responsibility for their terrorism, their ideology, their separatism, their hostility. Nobody is going to like them while they are like this.


Islam invaded first, Islam kidnapped first, Islam terrorised first, Islam proclaimed its superiority and its jihad first.  Everything that comes its way is response to its supremacist aggression.


In Joan Rivers's immortal words, "THEY STARTED IT".




Here you go, G. They started it.

Because they’re tinted.
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Reply #319 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:13pm
 
... wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:00pm:
Europe probably owes it's survival to the mongols, who near annihilated the muselmen before the muselmen could annihilate Europe.  They sure gave it a try though, and we shouldnt give them another chance.


Yes, Honky, a good couple of hundred years before the Ottomans went anywhere near Europe, but there you have it.

Gott mit uns, nein?
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Reply #320 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:17pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:06pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:46pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 3:40pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 3:02pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 2:00pm:
err.. I'm right that hatred of Islam can be racist.

But then you must alsao concede that the Muslim hatred of the West (whites) and of the Jews is also racist.



Muslim hatred of Jews is definitely racist. Muslim hatred of "the West" comes from a list of grievances.




Oh f Vck orff with the Muslim grievance mongering already.  The goddamned Muslims invaded Europe first, the Muslims kidnapped a million European first. They invaded Christian Rome first.

Kicking Muslim arse is always IN RESPONSE to Muslim aggression.  EVERY time it was the Muslims who started it. EVERY time.
But they want us to think of them as the bloody victims, the skinny little runts.



Throw them to the ground, the bloody aggressors.  They need to take responsibility for their terrorism, their ideology, their separatism, their hostility. Nobody is going to like them while they are like this.


Islam invaded first, Islam kidnapped first, Islam terrorised first, Islam proclaimed its superiority and its jihad first.  Everything that comes its way is response to its supremacist aggression.


In Joan Rivers's immortal words, "THEY STARTED IT".




Here you go, G. They started it.

Because they’re tinted.

Whether it's because they are tinted or not - they DID start it.

Go on, deny it.

You know you want to. There's a banana in it for you. There's two.



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Reply #321 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:19pm
 
For a subjective opinion you could ask all those Muslims fleeing from other Muslims into other Islamic countries, oh...wait.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #322 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:20pm
 
... wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:00pm:
Europe probably owes it's survival to the mongols, who near annihilated the muselmen before the muselmen could annihilate Europe.  They sure gave it a try though, and we shouldnt give them another chance.

Funny thing is, the house churches in China and Korea will one day start moving West and will overwhelm the no-idea, no-innovation hordes of illiterate Muslims.

The next crusade against Islam is coming from the East.

You heard it here first.

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Reply #323 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:56pm
 
Soren wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:17pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:06pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 7:46pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 3:40pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 3:02pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 2:00pm:
err.. I'm right that hatred of Islam can be racist.

But then you must alsao concede that the Muslim hatred of the West (whites) and of the Jews is also racist.



Muslim hatred of Jews is definitely racist. Muslim hatred of "the West" comes from a list of grievances.




Oh f Vck orff with the Muslim grievance mongering already.  The goddamned Muslims invaded Europe first, the Muslims kidnapped a million European first. They invaded Christian Rome first.

Kicking Muslim arse is always IN RESPONSE to Muslim aggression.  EVERY time it was the Muslims who started it. EVERY time.
But they want us to think of them as the bloody victims, the skinny little runts.



Throw them to the ground, the bloody aggressors.  They need to take responsibility for their terrorism, their ideology, their separatism, their hostility. Nobody is going to like them while they are like this.


Islam invaded first, Islam kidnapped first, Islam terrorised first, Islam proclaimed its superiority and its jihad first.  Everything that comes its way is response to its supremacist aggression.


In Joan Rivers's immortal words, "THEY STARTED IT".




Here you go, G. They started it.

Because they’re tinted.

Whether it's because they are tinted or not - they DID start it.



Here you go, G.

To be honest, I’ve never understood why you approach the old boy through the use of reason. You might as well lecture your dog or your cat.

Oh, we’ve all done it. We’ve all responded to Yadda’s quotes of himself. We’ve all tried rationalising with FD. We’ve even slung a word or two Moses’ way, only to get the same hysterical reply, each and every time.

But if you want a well-worn wheeze, go the old boy. He never fails to deliver. You will always (absolutely never ever) get a shrill, vapid and ultimately ridiculous response.

Which is why we love him. If the old boy didn’t exist, we would need to.make him up.
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Reply #324 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:57pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
... wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:00pm:
Europe probably owes it's survival to the mongols, who near annihilated the muselmen before the muselmen could annihilate Europe.  They sure gave it a try though, and we shouldnt give them another chance.


Yes, Honky, a good couple of hundred years before the Ottomans went anywhere near Europe, but there you have it.

Gott mit uns, nein?


Almost all of the crusades were before the Mongols burst onto the scene.

"I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you"
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Reply #325 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 9:14pm
 
M Soren wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:20pm:
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Europe probably owes it's survival to the mongols, who near annihilated the muselmen before the muselmen could annihilate Europe.  They sure gave it a try though, and we shouldnt give them another chance.

Funny thing is, the house churches in China and Korea will one day start moving West and will overwhelm the no-idea, no-innovation hordes of illiterate Muslims.

The next crusade against Islam is coming from the East.

You heard it here first.



Will durant saw the west, Islam and the orient as 3 distinct powers.  They will continue to jostle with each other, regardless how many idiots talk about their "one world" utopia.
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Reply #326 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 11:04pm
 
... wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:13pm:
... wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 8:00pm:
Europe probably owes it's survival to the mongols, who near annihilated the muselmen before the muselmen could annihilate Europe.  They sure gave it a try though, and we shouldnt give them another chance.


Yes, Honky, a good couple of hundred years before the Ottomans went anywhere near Europe, but there you have it.

Gott mit uns, nein?


Almost all of the crusades were before the Mongols burst onto the scene.

"I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you"


The crusades were fought in the Holy Lands, Honky. The Ottoman siege of Vienna occured about 150 years after the Mongols were defeated.

All is in accordance with the Divine Plan, you know.

And so it is.
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Reply #327 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 11:35pm
 
Why were they crusading karnal?
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Reply #328 - Nov 30th, 2015 at 11:43pm
 
... wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 11:35pm:
Why were they crusading karnal?


They? The crusaders were from Europe. They tried to capture Palestine.
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Reply #329 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 8:29am
 
The question was why.

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