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Reply #375 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:26pm

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:48pm:

In the words of our former PM - absolute crap. Barely a day goes by I don't condemn terrorism in the name of Islam, and argue the case for an Islam that rejects the terrorist ideology - and I'm not just talking about on this here forum.

Well it makes F Vck all difference, whatever you are doing. Are you proud of your complete and utter irrelevance and ineffectiveness? Barely a day goes by I don't think the 'vast majority' of Muslims like you are a bunch of cowardly arse-covering, two faced hypocritical wimps.

If you were really the true representative of Islam and if you were really he 'vast majority', you would have, could have ended the mayhem decades, centuries ago. But you are neither the 'vast' majority' nor the 'true Muslims'. You are irrelevant, weak, unrepresentative, powerless. For a 'vast majority' that's a huge sh!t pie right in your faces.

Islamic terrorism is a Muslim problem. But all you are doing is blame others for what Muslim terrorist are doing.

They are your guys, your religion, your culture, your problem.

Own the bastards. They have been owning you for centuries.i

They are still owning the moderate bag of dicks. They are smarter than the moderates. These guys know the bag of dick generator is the Quran and can prove it by what they say. The moderate bag of dicks run around making every excuse under the sun to distance themselves from the full burger bag of dicks and live in ignorance of the bag of dicks generator the Quran. Moderates live in lala land and in reality are a bigger bag of dicks mentally.

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Reply #377 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:44am

John Smith wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:55pm:

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:12pm:

Why would one go and fight ISIS when one can push a button and remove the entire area from the face of the map.

what makes you any better than the dickheads lopping off heads in the middle east?

I have more brains. Are you a dickhead ?

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Reply #378 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:00am

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:48pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Reign in your Mohammedan co-religionists

And how do you propose I do that?

Stand up to them, like a brave man who is OPEN and CONVINCED about his opposition to them. I want you to PUT YOURSELF ON THE LINE.

What answer did you expect? "Continue to be a cowardly arse-coverer"?

What did I expect? Oh I don't know, something that actually means something. Big ask I know.

Are you suggesting I confront a terrorist while he's on a rampage? Pick a fight with a jihadist? Some details please.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #379 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:08am

Ah, so some more clues on what Soren means by putting myself "on the line"...

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

I want you to PUT YOURSELF ON THE LINE.

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

You know that if you actually put yourself on the line, they would kill you.

Evidently Soren thinks its reasonable and fair for me to kill myself in order to make some sort of statement.

How very noble of him.

What do you think S - is it that outrageous that I am reluctant to kill myself?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #380 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:15am

cosanostra wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:44am:

John Smith wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:55pm:

cosanostra wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 9:12pm:

Why would one go and fight ISIS when one can push a button and remove the entire area from the face of the map.

what makes you any better than the dickheads lopping off heads in the middle east?

I have more brains.

No no, Matty, you have more personalities. Having more brains would mean you really were different posters.

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Reply #381 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:18am

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:08am:

Ah, so some more clues on what Soren means by putting myself "on the line"...

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

I want you to PUT YOURSELF ON THE LINE.

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

You know that if you actually put yourself on the line, they would kill you.

Evidently Soren thinks its reasonable and fair for me to kill myself in order to make some sort of statement.

How very noble of him.

What do you think S - is it that outrageous that I am reluctant to kill myself?

Well, old boy is planning to tell off the next headscarf-wearer he sees.

You could at least say you’ll do that, G.

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Reply #382 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:39am

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:18am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:08am:

Ah, so some more clues on what Soren means by putting myself "on the line"...

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

I want you to PUT YOURSELF ON THE LINE.

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

You know that if you actually put yourself on the line, they would kill you.

Evidently Soren thinks its reasonable and fair for me to kill myself in order to make some sort of statement.

How very noble of him.

What do you think S - is it that outrageous that I am reluctant to kill myself?

Well, old boy is planning to tell off the next headscarf-wearer he sees.

You could at least say you’ll do that, G.

Soren said last night that a niqabi who gets harrassed on the street is to blame for being inconsiderate of the Paris victims.

But S holds the moral high ground thats for sure.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #383 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:45am

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:39am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:18am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:08am:

Ah, so some more clues on what Soren means by putting myself "on the line"...

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

I want you to PUT YOURSELF ON THE LINE.

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

You know that if you actually put yourself on the line, they would kill you.

Evidently Soren thinks its reasonable and fair for me to kill myself in order to make some sort of statement.

How very noble of him.

What do you think S - is it that outrageous that I am reluctant to kill myself?

Well, old boy is planning to tell off the next headscarf-wearer he sees.

You could at least say you’ll do that, G.

Soren said last night that a niqabi who gets harrassed on the street is to blame for being inconsiderate of the Paris victims.

But S holds the moral high ground thats for sure.

I hope the Queen’s alright. She wears those scarves when she’s doing the shopping.

She’s never been too fond of the French.

But your Muselman is clearly doing this to rub it in our noses. Oh, how dare they?

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Reply #384 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:51pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:08am:

Ah, so some more clues on what Soren means by putting myself "on the line"...

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

I want you to PUT YOURSELF ON THE LINE.

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

You know that if you actually put yourself on the line, they would kill you.

Evidently Soren thinks its reasonable and fair for me to kill myself in order to make some sort of statement.

How very noble of him.

What do you think S - is it that outrageous that I am reluctant to kill myself?

As I said, the 'vast majority' are cowardly and cede the agenda to the Islamists who have the courage of their convictions. You and the Miff-ti and the rest of the kvetching bed-wetters cede Islam to the Islamists and then courageously blame-shift to Westerners who will not hurt you.

After every Muslim atrocity you want the kuffar to hug you Muslims, otherwise you will blame them even more.

Nobody is asking you to kill yourself, numpty. But you are far more afraid of the 'tiny minority of unrepresentative Islamists' than you are of Western law and your kuffar fellow citizens - so you blame the latter as long as you do not have to confront the former.

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Reply #385 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:59pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:39am:

Karnal wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:18am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:08am:

Ah, so some more clues on what Soren means by putting myself "on the line"...

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:07pm:

I want you to PUT YOURSELF ON THE LINE.

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

You know that if you actually put yourself on the line, they would kill you.

Evidently Soren thinks its reasonable and fair for me to kill myself in order to make some sort of statement.

How very noble of him.

What do you think S - is it that outrageous that I am reluctant to kill myself?

Well, old boy is planning to tell off the next headscarf-wearer he sees.

You could at least say you’ll do that, G.

Soren said last night that a niqabi who gets harrassed on the street is to blame for being inconsiderate of the Paris victims.

But S holds the moral high ground thats for sure.

I do find it perverse and a little repulsive to see the niqabis after every atrocity committed in the name of Islam. It's a bit like wearing a swastika after the Nuremberg Trials or a Pol Pot T shirt after 1979.
Islam is the source of these repulsive acts of violence so parading your fundamentalist Islamism on the street is nauseating.

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Reply #386 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:24pm

Soren wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

As I said, the 'vast majority' are cowardly and cede the agenda to the Islamists who have the courage of their convictions.

The vast majority just want to get on with their lives. Non-fanatics are, funnily enough, characterised by their non-fanaticism. Thats what most muslims are - non-fanatics, and yes, I guess it is a reality of life that fanatics tend to steal the headlines - what you call "ceding the agenda" - the news agenda.

You still haven't explained what you mean by "stand up" to the extremists.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #387 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:27pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:24pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

As I said, the 'vast majority' are cowardly and cede the agenda to the Islamists who have the courage of their convictions.

The vast majority just want to get on with their lives. Non-fanatics are, funnily enough, characterised by their non-fanaticism. Thats what most non-muslims are - non-fanatics, and yes, I guess it is a reality of life that fanatics tend to steal the headlines - what you call "ceding the agenda" - the news agenda.

You still haven't explained what you mean by "stand up" to the extremists.

Oh, the old boy wants to show them the error of their ways through the piercing light of reason.

A good f Vck orf should do it.

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Reply #388 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:28pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:41pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 6:29pm:

You have murderers i your corner, I don't.

Liar. Who the faark do you think Anders Brievik is?

He is not in my corner.

- but Baghdadi and bin Laden etc are in mine right?

Not so fun when the boots on the other foot eh?

They are - you get your inspirations from the same book and the same prophet. You are Muslims. What's more, you are Sunni Muslims.

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Reply #389 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 3:00pm

Soren wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 2:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:41pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 8:58pm:

Soren wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2015 at 6:29pm:

You have murderers i your corner, I don't.

Liar. Who the faark do you think Anders Brievik is?

He is not in my corner.

- but Baghdadi and bin Laden etc are in mine right?

Not so fun when the boots on the other foot eh?

They are - you get your inspirations from the same book and the same prophet. You are Muslims. What's more, you are Sunni Muslims.

Funnily enough I've never thought of myself as sunni - or any particular sect. I certainly don't relate in any way to bin Laden's ideology - I consider myself spiritually and ideologically closer to you S - as crazy as that sounds. You, on the other hand absolutely do share the ideology of Brievik - on his views about multiculturalism, European/white culture and of course Islam. Tapdance around it all you can, but thats the inconvenient truth. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't agree with his methods - though thats quite generous given your stubborn refusal to condemn it.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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