oh, and just in case there was any doubt moses meant *ALL* muslims:

moses wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2015 at 4:39pm:

Indeed - how else can we explain these barely intelligible quips about political correctness as a way of dismissing criticism of such blatant bigotry?

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 4:39pm:



Gandy,  Muslims are not trusted.

If you can't be fagged to think about that, don't.


You are in the West. How important are your beard, pajama, your wife's niqab and her non-participation in the normal life of this country for you and your fellow Muslims clinging to a Middle Eastern attitude and deportment in this country.

You can be a Muslim without a stupid beard, pajamas, niqab and hijab. People identifying with these ridiculous OUTWARD signs of Islam are massacring Westerners and you and your fellow numties insist bightly that it's  case of 'Islam has nuffin' to do wiv nuffin' BS.

You wouldn't go around with a swastika after Auschwitz - why go around dressed like a fundamentalist Islamist after Paris, London, Madrid, Sydney, Beirut, Bombay, Bali, etc, et, etc, etc, etc, etc - endless Muslim mayhem All in the name of Mohammed an Allah and the Koran???


And wonder why you Musllms  are distrusted and avoided. You are simply not honest. You cannot trusted. You are aliens, your minds turn in an alien and unfathomable way, you take offence and turn violent over the crusades,cartoons, beards, a joke - who knows what's next.

You are aliens we cannot read and when we do read you, we reject you.

But it is the same the same the other way -you don't get the West and when you do, you reject it. We are strangers, the West and Islam, and it was a MASSIVE mistake to allow mass Muslim immigration. The sooner it stops the better. There is not a single improvement Muslim immigration has brought to the West. It's all negative.i

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 8:43pm:



So why persist with it FOR TRIBAL REASONS in an individualistic Western society where tribes do not matter?  Or why not go back to Foockoffistan if you want to persist with it?  Diversity is a load of nonsense. It allows this sort of mindless medieval colour to be added to our diversity pallet. Lunacy.



Don't marry your cousins, sons of Allah.  It fVx up YOUR kids.  Why is that difficult for the sons of Allah to grasp??

freediver wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:49pm:


Not sure if they're into inbreeding or religion. I am sure though that camels would love to experience freedom...

I am curious, after 28 pages, did we eventually come up with a definition of what freedom means? That seems to be what the title is suggesting...

Soren wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:


Interesting. Here we see you cannot even explain your own assertion that muslims must "stand up" to the terrorists. I invited you several times to clarify what it means in practice. I thought we might actually get somewhere - you know some actual solutions. But in the end, we just end up where we always do - mindless abstract verbal bashing of the musselman.

You cannot sustain your own rhetoric because you know full well that when it comes down to it, what you demand of me is unreasonable. Your bigoted rhetoric only works in the abstract - targeted at some vague fictional caricature of your own imagination - a caricature who is wholly unreasonable and wholly sinister. Ranting and raving works against such a foe, but when its directed at an actual law-abiding human being who harbours no ill-will towards anyone, and is deserving of the same respect as anyone else, it crumbles apart for the bitter and prejudiced nonsense that it is. And I think you understand this, which is why you default to abstract ranting mode whenever you are confronted with actual human beings and their legitimate concerns.

freediver wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 7:35am:


Yes. But obviously not to your satisfaction.