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Reply #45 - Sep 14^th, 2015 at 12:03am

moses wrote on Sep 13^th, 2015 at 5:33pm:

While the real agenda is: [anti-Israel]

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2015 at 8:33pm:

What if all those things upset and annoyed you including the way in which the Israelis act towards the Palestinians, Moses? Mmm? Roll Eyes

JUST LOOK AT OUR WORLD TODAY, THE WORLD OF MANKIND.

It is amazing how the world of politics has been 'shaping up' over the last 50-60 years;

On one side of the political 'divide';
You have many bible reading Christians, who identify themselves, as those who love God.
And you have the Jewish people, many of whom who still have faith in their God.
And you have the State of Israel.

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And then on the other side of the political divide in today's world, we see every political group who;
hate what the God of Old and New Testament scripture represents [hate even the suggestion that there is a God/creator!],
hate Israel,
hate the Jewish people [supposedly, just those who support the state of Israel],
hate all Christians who declare a love for the God of the bible .

They are the 'leftists'.
They are the Humanists.
The 'Socialist Alliance' types [communists].
Homosexuals.
AND EVEN CHRISTIANS - those who attend, and consider themselves to be members of Christian churches, who love and defend the right of moslem communities to exist and grow, within Western nations, ....and who see nothing wrong with supporting the 'Palestinian' cause [and who seemingly, have a 'disdain' for Jewish people, and are also against the existence of the State of Israel].

And, it is clear to see, that all of those groups have closely aligned themselves politically, with ISLAM, with moslem communities, and with the 'Palestinian' cause.

Luke 21:24
....and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

And reading that NT text, it is interesting to consider, that from the perspective of the 'Jewish' God [as presented in OT and NT scripture], moslems too, would also 'qualify' as those who are gentiles/infidels.

Well hey, Jerusalem was trodden down by gentiles, until the year of The Six Day War.

I guess we are living in interesting times.

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Re: The God of the ancient Israelites is a stupid-crue
Reply #46 - Sep 14^th, 2015 at 1:54pm

Karnal wrote Reply #42 - Yesterday at 7:11pm:

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No, Moses, the invasion of Iraq killed millions of Iraqis - babies set fire in their homes as you yourself put it. We were not fighting Muslims or retaliating against attrocities, we invaded a state and deposed a secular regime.

I know you blame Muslims and Islam. My point is your logic doesn’t sustain your blame. You can rail away for years, but if there’s no point to it, it’s futile.

I have no problems at all with the invasions of Iraq.

I believe that Iraq sponsored terrorism, invaded or attacked their neighbors, had killed tens of thousands of their own people, using secret police, torture, mass murder, rape, assassinations and chemical warfare.

Iraq was invaded, it was justified retaliation, as far as I'm concerned.

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I don’t like bigots very much, but I hardly have cause to kill them or try to have them banned. If you don’t like Muslims because of their bloodthirsty books, you must hate Jews even more. And if you hate those who kill innocents, you must hate those who invade nations and engage in a bit of the old collateral damage.

If you don’t hold to your own professed logic, you have no reason to rail against Muslims at all - just irrational fear , hate and religious tribalism. Always, absolutely, never ever.

It is a jolly world, no?

You always carry on about the 3,500 year old O.T. chronicles of ancient Jewish behaviour as an excuse for present day muslim behaviour.

My point always has been that the Jews don't use these ancient accounts as the be all end all guide for their present day civilization. They leave muslims for dead in this field.

I have always said that muslims slaughter innocent men women and children as a religious requirement, they cite the filth of islam as their justification.

So my position is: muslims intentionally commit the foulest of atrocities against men women and children all in the name of their satanic cult islam.

muslim men women and children are killed by retaliatory actions of those who defend the world against the deliberate inhumanities of muslims / islam.

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Re: The God of the ancient Israelites is a stupid-crue
Reply #47 - Sep 14^th, 2015 at 5:18pm

moses wrote on Sep 14^th, 2015 at 1:54pm:

Karnal wrote Reply #42 - Yesterday at 7:11pm:

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No, Moses, the invasion of Iraq killed millions of Iraqis - babies set fire in their homes as you yourself put it. We were not fighting Muslims or retaliating against attrocities, we invaded a state and deposed a secular regime.

I know you blame Muslims and Islam. My point is your logic doesn’t sustain your blame. You can rail away for years, but if there’s no point to it, it’s futile.

I have no problems at all with the invasions of Iraq.

I believe that Iraq sponsored terrorism, invaded or attacked their neighbors, had killed tens of thousands of their own people, using secret police, torture, mass murder, rape, assassinations and chemical warfare.

Iraq was invaded, it was justified retaliation, as far as I'm concerned.

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I don’t like bigots very much, but I hardly have cause to kill them or try to have them banned. If you don’t like Muslims because of their bloodthirsty books, you must hate Jews even more. And if you hate those who kill innocents, you must hate those who invade nations and engage in a bit of the old collateral damage.

If you don’t hold to your own professed logic, you have no reason to rail against Muslims at all - just irrational fear , hate and religious tribalism. Always, absolutely, never ever.

It is a jolly world, no?

You always carry on about the 3,500 year old O.T. chronicles of ancient Jewish behaviour as an excuse for present day muslim behaviour.

My point always has been that the Jews don't use these ancient accounts as the be all end all guide for their present day civilization. They leave muslims for dead in this field.

I have always said that muslims slaughter innocent men women and children as a religious requirement, they cite the filth of islam as their justification.

So my position is: muslims intentionally commit the foulest of atrocities against men women and children all in the name of their satanic cult islam.

muslim men women and children are killed by retaliatory actions of those who defend the world against the deliberate inhumanities of muslims / islam.

Sorry, Moses, did you just say the Jews don't use the Torah as the be-all-end-all guide for their present civilization?

What do you call the state of Israel?

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Re: The God of the ancient Israelites is a stupid-crue
Reply #48 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 2:34pm

My understanding is that the verses such as those which told the Jews to slaughter the Canaanites etc, are time and people specific.

They are past events they do not refer to the here and now.

However if I'm wrong let me know when they are going to slaughter the Canaanites and all the animals will you.

Now to get to your buddies the muslims they have no timelines at all, they started out murdering Christians, Jews, pagans, atheists, Hindus, Buddhists and they are still doing it today.

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Re: The God of the ancient Israelites is a stupid-crue
Reply #49 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 3:30pm

moses wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 2:34pm:

My understanding is that the verses such as those which told the Jews to slaughter the Canaanites etc, are time and people specific.

They are past events they do not refer to the here and now.

However if I'm wrong let me know when they are going to slaughter the Canaanites and all the animals will you.

Now to get to your buddies the muslims they have no timelines at all, they started out murdering Christians, Jews, pagans, atheists, Hindus, Buddhists and they are still doing it today.

You must have missed the directive to go out, conquer lands and slaughter gentiles, Moses. The whole point of being Gud's chosen people was a get-out-of-jail free card for atrocities. The circumcision of the enemy on the battlefield was a nice touch, but Jewish rulers like David did this voluntarily.

You're right. They are past events, but no religious Jew would ever question the Gud-given directive. Orthodox Jews still use different stoves to cook milk and meat products. Lambs are still slaughtered at Passover. Boys are still circumcised 8 days after birth.

Leviticus stands.

It's strange how you understand the Torah to be time and people specific. When you've been shown how the Koran is exactly this, you disagree. You believe the rules of the battlefield relate somehow to how Muslims conduct their lives in peacetime, despite being shown the context and the Arabic translations.

Recently, a few crazy Israelis have taken to Old Testament punishments, stabbing homosexuals and stoning Palestinian gentiles. They use the Torah to justify their actions. And yet, you refuse to see the parallel between this and the Muslim nutcases.

The Muslim nutcases are wrong. Executing homosexuals and beheading infidels is not a requirement of Islam. Doing these things contradicts the spirit of the teachings. Every Muslim cleric I've ever heard says this. You've read their words here plenty of times, but for some reason, you disagree with them. You know, it doesn't mean what it says.

Unlike the Book of Leviticus, of course, which for some reason you think has been rescinded.

The Muslims murdering Christians, Jews, pagans, atheists, Hindus, Buddhists are what we call murderers. When they do it in wartime, they're called war criminals. They are not "good Muslims" anymore than Israelis who do the same are "good Jews". The Israeli army has committed atrocities too. And when they do, you ignore it. You pretend it isn't happening.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: The God of the ancient Israelites is a stupid-crue Reply #50 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 4:30pm Karnal wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 3:30pm: The circumcision of the enemy on the battlefield was a nice touch, but Jewish rulers like David did this voluntarily. http://www.thebricktestament.com/david_vs_saul/david_mutilates_200_gets_married/...
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Re: The God of the ancient Israelites is a stupid-crue
Reply #51 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 4:44pm

Karnal wrote:

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You must have missed the directive to go out, conquer lands and slaughter gentiles, Moses. The whole point of being Gud's chosen people was a get-out-of-jail free card for atrocities. The circumcision of the enemy on the battlefield was a nice touch, but Jewish rulers like David did this voluntarily.

You're right. They are past events, but no religious Jew would ever question the Gud-given directive. Orthodox Jews still use different stoves to cook milk and meat products. Lambs are still slaughtered at Passover. Boys are still circumcised 8 days after birth.

Leviticus stands.

As I said it's said it's all there, however you missed the Jewish Diaspora, the Jews were scattered across the world from Biblical times until 1948, since that time they have done nothing but defend themselves against the millions of rabid hate filled muslims who are consumed with the desire to slaughter every Jew on this planet.

So there's no going out and conquering lands and slaughtering gentiles as you said.

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It's strange how you understand the Torah to be time and people specific. When you've been shown how the Koran is exactly this, you disagree. You believe the rules of the battlefield relate somehow to how Muslims conduct their lives in peacetime, despite being shown the context and the Arabic translations.

Recently, a few crazy Israelis have taken to Old Testament punishments, stabbing homosexuals and stoning Palestinian gentiles. They use the Torah to justify their actions. And yet, you refuse to see the parallel between this and the Muslim nutcases.

The Muslim nutcases are wrong. Executing homosexuals and beheading infidels is not a requirement of Islam. Doing these things contradicts the spirit of the teachings. Every Muslim cleric I've ever heard says this. You've read their words here plenty of times, but for some reason, you disagree with them. You know, it doesn't mean what it says.

Unlike the Book of Leviticus, of course, which for some reason you think has been rescinded.

The Muslims murdering Christians, Jews, pagans, atheists, Hindus, Buddhists are what we call murderers. When they do it in wartime, they're called war criminals. They are not "good Muslims" anymore than Israelis who do the same are "good Jews". The Israeli army has committed atrocities too. And when they do, you ignore it. You pretend it isn't happening.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

It's amazing how everyone keeps trying to exonerate islam and the qur'an for muslim's atrocities right here right now, every day of every week of every year.

Every muslim is obsessed with living the way allah dictates.

Why are they universally a bunch of rapists, torturers and mass murderers?

The facts are that there is not one muslim or apologist alive who can explain to the fundamentalists that you should not rape torture and slaugher your fellow man.

Every one of these fundamentalists are 100% convinced they are the highest grade of muslim there is, assured a place in paradise.

Why is the islamic problem a global one if religiously, muslims clearly are not suppossed to be committing atrocities against their fellow man?

When are muslims going to accept their responsibility for the islamic atrocities globally committed?

When are muslims going to stop being a burden on the entire globe?

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Re: The God of the ancient Israelites is a stupid-crue
Reply #53 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 7:12pm

You tell me the why and when Gandalf:

The facts are that there is not one muslim or apologist alive who can explain to the fundamentalists that you should not rape torture and slaugher your fellow man.

Every one of these fundamentalists are 100% convinced they are the highest grade of muslim there is, assured a place in paradise.

Why is the islamic problem a global one if religiously, muslims clearly are not suppossed to be committing atrocities against their fellow man?

When are muslims going to accept their responsibility for the islamic atrocities globally committed?

When are muslims going to stop being a burden on the entire globe?

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 41101	Re: The God of the ancient Israelites is a stupid-crue Reply #54 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 7:39pm I wonder when Christians will accept responsibility for the slaughter and mayhem committed in the name of their religion, Moses? Jews? Buddhists? Hindus? All religions have gone on the rampage at one time or t'other. Don't you think it's time to admit to?
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Re: The God of the ancient Israelites is a stupid-crue
Reply #55 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 8:10pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

moses wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 2:34pm:

My understanding is that the verses such as those which told the Jews to slaughter the Canaanites etc, are time and people specific.

They are past events they do not refer to the here and now.

However if I'm wrong let me know when they are going to slaughter the Canaanites and all the animals will you.

Now to get to your buddies the muslims they have no timelines at all, they started out murdering Christians, Jews, pagans, atheists, Hindus, Buddhists and they are still doing it today.

You must have missed the directive to go out, conquer lands and slaughter gentiles, Moses.

The whole point of being Gud's chosen people was a get-out-of-jail free card for atrocities.

Karnal,

I thought that i had demonstrated, through OT scripture that the slaughter the Canaanite nations, was NOT because they were 'Gentiles' [i.e. disbelievers].

But of course such information, confirmed in OT scripture, won't stop people like yourself slandering God, and his word.

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1441760279/2#2
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As the bible itself testifies;

The ancient Hebrews had no sanction from their God, to murder or to harm, those who were not Hebrews.

The ancient Hebrews had no sanction from their God, to oppress or to harm people, because they were Gentiles.

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Exodus 12:49
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him...

Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger...

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself...

n.b.
.....and thou shalt love him as thyself

Leviticus 25:47-49
[these verses clearly speak of [and reveal that it was entirely 'lawful'] for Hebrews [themselves] to become bond servants [slaves], to prosperous strangers living among the Hebrews.]

Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19
For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger:
for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 24:17
Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge:
18 But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing.

Deuteronomy 27:19
Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger...

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Karnal,

It is 'convenient' how you have totally ignored information presented in earlier posts in this thread, as to the justification for the destruction of those nations.

THEY WERE NATIONS FULL OF MURDERERS AND SERIOUS CRIMINALS

And that justification, had nothing to do with "go out, conquer lands and slaughter gentiles".

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1441760279/0#0

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Leviticus 18:24
Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)

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Re: The God of the ancient Israelites is a stupid-crue
Reply #56 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 8:26pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 4:54pm:

I really don't know why you need to hate moses.

Does it give your life purpose?

Yeah, moses is talking of; The moslem HATRED, ....of non-moslems.

.....because they are non-moslems.

gandalf,

WHY ARE YOU FALSELY MISREPRESENTING OTHER FAITHS, AS FAITHS PROMOTING HATRED.

WHILE MISREPRESENTING THE HATRED OF 'OTHERS', WHICH IS MANDATED IN ISLAM [AS NON-EXISTENT] ??????

e.g.
Quote:

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents.

Only between Muslims and unbelievers.

And the life of an unbeliever has no value.

It has no sanctity."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&on...

N.B.
"...the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

And moslems can draw authority for that mainstream doctrine, from Koran verses, such as.....

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

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Now compare those previous Koran verses......

Against, what OT scripture mandates,

on the treatment of 'disbelievers' living among the ancient Israelites

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Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1441760279/2#2
Quote:

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As the bible itself testifies;

The ancient Hebrews had no sanction from their God, to murder or to harm, those who were not Hebrews.

The ancient Hebrews had no sanction from their God, to oppress or to harm people, because they were Gentiles.

+++

Exodus 12:49
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him...

Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger...

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself...

n.b.
.....and thou shalt love him as thyself

Leviticus 25:47-49
[these verses clearly speak of [and reveal that it was entirely 'lawful'] for Hebrews [themselves] to become bond servants [slaves], to prosperous strangers living among the Hebrews.]

Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19
For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger:
for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 24:17
Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge:
18 But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing.

Deuteronomy 27:19
Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger...

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Re: The God of the ancient Israelites is a stupid-crue
Reply #57 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 8:48pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

moses wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 2:34pm:

My understanding is that the verses such as those which told the Jews to slaughter the Canaanites etc, are time and people specific.

They are past events they do not refer to the here and now.

However if I'm wrong let me know when they are going to slaughter the Canaanites and all the animals will you.

Now to get to your buddies the muslims they have no timelines at all, they started out murdering Christians, Jews, pagans, atheists, Hindus, Buddhists and they are still doing it today.

The Muslim nutcases are wrong.

Executing homosexuals and beheading infidels is not a requirement of Islam.

Karnal,

You are a bare faced LIAR.

ISLAMIC doctrine mandates the killing of both homosexuals and the beheading of infidels [who 'wilfully' reject ISLAM, and resist the spread of ISLAM].

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Karnal wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

Doing these things contradicts the spirit of the teachings.

Every Muslim cleric I've ever heard says this.

You've read their words here plenty of times, but for some reason, you disagree with them. You know, it doesn't mean what it says.

More LIARS.

Moslem LAIRS, FALSELY 'preaching peace'.

Who are 'preaching peace', BECAUSE MOSLEMS [within Western nations] HAVE NO MEANS TO IMPLEMENT THEIR TRUE INTENTIONS.

IMAGE...

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

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Please watch this YT...

David Wood on the 3 stages of Jihad

24 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rjdO4cfeEg

As an informative and revelatory YouTube on ISLAM,

Yadda gives this David Wood YouTube 5/5 stars.

If you are a person who loves truth, please watch that David Wood YouTube.

If you believe that knowledge of what is true, should be important in directing YOUR choices, in your life, please watch that David Wood YouTube.

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Karnal wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

Unlike the Book of Leviticus, of course, which for some reason you think has been rescinded.

Karnal,

Where is Levitical law practised by Christians ????????????

I thought that we [even Christians] are all governed under Australian laws, instituted by our Australian parliaments, here in secular Australia.

Am i mistaken ????

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Re: The God of the ancient Israelites is a stupid-crue
Reply #58 - Sep 15^th, 2015 at 10:41pm

moses wrote on Sep 15^th, 2015 at 7:12pm:

You tell me the why and when Gandalf:

The facts are that there is not one muslim or apologist alive who can explain to the fundamentalists that you should not rape torture and slaugher your fellow man.

Every one of these fundamentalists are 100% convinced they are the highest grade of muslim there is, assured a place in paradise.

Why is the islamic problem a global one if religiously, muslims clearly are not suppossed to be committing atrocities against their fellow man?

When are muslims going to accept their responsibility for the islamic atrocities globally committed?

When are muslims going to stop being a burden on the entire globe?

This time, it’s not the Koran and it’s not "what Muslims do", it’s the inability of Muslims to reign in the fundamentalists.

There you go, effendes. Moses blames communication.

Ban them. Kill them. Nuke them.

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