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Re: Guns
Reply #45 - Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:26pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:15pm:

No doubt ... with DNA testing today there is no more doubt

Actually, there is.

yeah .... I'm willing to live with the .00001% chance that it's wrong.

Read Longy's post:

"All DNA does is prove that two samples come from the same person or sets of identical twins. It does not and cannot assume that this does in fact prove anything."

He's right.

yes, I read it ... and if the dna found in skin under a victims nail, or semen up her arse that matches milats, we can be pretty 99.9999 % sure of his guilt. That's close enough for my liking.

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Re: Guns
Reply #46 - Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:34pm

mariacostel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:26pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:15pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:11pm:

I am better than these criminals...

Your last few posts have shown otherwise.

So people who commit actual horrendous crimes are about the same as someone who wants them locked up for life or terminated, yeah, that's a sane argument. Grin

Remember the reason we have such high recidivism with bash artists, child rapists, and all-round criminals scumbags, is because of people like you normalising their behaviour.

Having them permanently removed is not a bad thing, and you're going to do it do it properly. So in gaol for life mean you die there if you are going to bring in the DP, double tap with hollow points so the die.

Stop being a pussy, you are sounding more like a little b1tch every day

You still seem to have no problem with killing and no concern whatsoever for innocence.

Having the guilty die in prison from old age is not killing you cretin.

Is english not your first language?

If you cannot read at least a 5th grade level please stop trying to reply to my posts, your inability to comprehend even the most basic sentence is frustrating as hell. Angry

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greggerypeccary

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Re: Guns
Reply #47 - Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:41pm

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:26pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:15pm:

No doubt ... with DNA testing today there is no more doubt

Actually, there is.

yeah .... I'm willing to live with the .00001% chance that it's wrong.

Read Longy's post:

"All DNA does is prove that two samples come from the same person or sets of identical twins. It does not and cannot assume that this does in fact prove anything."

He's right.

yes, I read it ... and if the dna found in skin under a victims nail, or semen up her arse that matches milats, we can be pretty 99.9999 % sure of his guilt.

No, we can't.

You're not thinking it through.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136426 Gender:	Re: Guns Reply #48 - Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:41pm lee wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:29pm: DNA evidence may not always remove all doubt, but it can. No, it can't.
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Re: Guns
Reply #49 - Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:55pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

mariacostel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:14pm:

mariacostel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:01pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 12:31pm:

mariacostel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

I found yesterdays incident more disturbing ... also on the Gold Coast

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-10/ex-bandido-lionel-patea-to-face-murder-aft...

forced her off the road , then while she was trapped in her car, he beat her across the head with a metal plate and killed her ...

such a pretty girl too.

tell me again why we shouldn't have the death penalty?

Because it simply does not work in reducing crime especially murder.

but it does reduce the chances of the same person murdering again

Nobody has ever disputed that fact, ever.

So, I'm not sure why people feel the need to keep bringing it up - you're just arguing with yourself.

Yes: a dead criminal can no longer commit crimes.

And, being imprisoned also reduces the chances of the same person murdering again.

Right up until some POS left wing douche-bag judge lets the filth out on the street. Same applies to every scumbag the enters our revolving door prisons.

When dying in prison becomes the norm for these filth, then and only then should the DP be taken off the table.

Build more prisons, lock scum up for much, much longer and in cases of true scum baggery, let them out in a body bag and no sooner.

F...,,k the left wing soft c0ck judges, they should have zero say in sentencing until they can prove they will sentence in the interest of society.

What about the innocent sent to prison. Do you have an opinion on them?

Other than they shouldn't be there.

So lets just stick with the guilty pieces of sh1t, or are they all innocent and we should just give up all prosecution and incarceration, because of all the innocence out there in prison land?

So in essence you really aren't that concerned about the state executing innocent people? Why is that? Surely the justice system exists to protect all us - especially innocent people. Care to explain?

Hey Im all for locking them up for every, they only way a guilty (like that do you) person get out is in a body bag, When the DP was mentioned by someone else, I only recommended hollow point so as to ensure the brain stem was shredded and there was no chance of survival.

It's you fags that get you panties in a bunch about everyone being innocent and therefore the DP should never be used.

If you want these scumbags out of gaol, fine makes sure they move in next door to you and not anyone else, you should be fine with that you know since their innocent.

Nice Rant. Brings to mind the image of a guy driving a pickup with a gun rack complete with a Eureka Stockade flag and two front teeth.

But as expected, you complete ignore the issue of the innocent. It is fairly obvious why. A tooth for every IQ point?

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Reply #50 - Sep 10^th, 2015 at 4:00pm

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:26pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:15pm:

No doubt ... with DNA testing today there is no more doubt

Actually, there is.

yeah .... I'm willing to live with the .00001% chance that it's wrong.

Read Longy's post:

"All DNA does is prove that two samples come from the same person or sets of identical twins. It does not and cannot assume that this does in fact prove anything."

He's right.

yes, I read it ... and if the dna found in skin under a victims nail, or semen up her arse that matches milats, we can be pretty 99.9999 % sure of his guilt. That's close enough for my liking.

I understand the following argument will probably elude you, but the point is that you still have to prove that the skin under the finger nails or the semen belong to 'the attacker'. Normally that is not particularly difficult, but it still needs to be done. As in the case of rape, what about prior consensual sex and the dna sample picks up only one sample?

The point is that DNA is a tool, not a all-in-one solution. And as happened in victoria, mistakes are made. A guy was jailed for rape on the basis of DNA evidence despite witnesses to the contrary. A year later it was discovered that the DNA samples were misfiled and for a year, DNA evidence was inadmissible due to the unreliability of the system.

You watch too much CSI.

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Re: Guns
Reply #51 - Sep 10^th, 2015 at 4:01pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:34pm:

mariacostel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:26pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:15pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:11pm:

I am better than these criminals...

Your last few posts have shown otherwise.

So people who commit actual horrendous crimes are about the same as someone who wants them locked up for life or terminated, yeah, that's a sane argument. Grin

Remember the reason we have such high recidivism with bash artists, child rapists, and all-round criminals scumbags, is because of people like you normalising their behaviour.

Having them permanently removed is not a bad thing, and you're going to do it do it properly. So in gaol for life mean you die there if you are going to bring in the DP, double tap with hollow points so the die.

Stop being a pussy, you are sounding more like a little b1tch every day

You still seem to have no problem with killing and no concern whatsoever for innocence.

Having the guilty die in prison from old age is not killing you cretin.

Is english not your first language?

If you cannot read at least a 5th grade level please stop trying to reply to my posts, your inability to comprehend even the most basic sentence is frustrating as hell. Angry

Stop acting like a redneck and try acting as if you had an education.

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Re: Guns
Reply #52 - Sep 10^th, 2015 at 4:34pm

mariacostel wrote on Sep 10^th, 2015 at 3:55pm: