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Re: A visit to Mecca is not for the faint-hearted ...
Reply #45 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:39am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:01am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 6:25am:
.. another 700 Khoran Kaffirs out of the way....... no need to war with Islam since it does enough damage to itself on a daily basis.

How unimaginable that a group of religious devotees will literally stampede and knock each other down and trample one another in their zealotry.... goes to show the kind of non-thinking that goes into the whole thing.

What's killed more Muslims than Allied Bombing?  Islamic zealotry....


Zealotry was not the cause of the stampede.


True. It was not the cause....it was BEHIND the cause.
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Reply #46 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:41am
 
what does that mean Lisa?
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #47 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:43am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:41am:
what does that mean Lisa?


Ohhh you're here!

Good.

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Reply #48 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 8:10am
 
Muslims are easily pleased -

give them a wall & a few stones to throw at it.

What pathetic imbeciles.
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Reply #49 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 8:43am
 
innocentbystander. wrote on Sep 25th, 2015 at 8:37pm:
1996 crush record 1400, this year only 700 odd ... come on stupid mussies try harder next year  Grin, won't be long before they are holding the hajj in Berlin and Australia's idiot left will be crying because its not in Sydney.  Cheesy


Screw you and your friggin' bigotry. Same for Herb and cycle boy.
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Reply #50 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 10:00am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:01am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 6:25am:
.. another 700 Khoran Kaffirs out of the way....... no need to war with Islam since it does enough damage to itself on a daily basis.

How unimaginable that a group of religious devotees will literally stampede and knock each other down and trample one another in their zealotry.... goes to show the kind of non-thinking that goes into the whole thing.

What's killed more Muslims than Allied Bombing?  Islamic zealotry....


Zealotry was not the cause of the stampede.



Disorderliness is.  If it happened once, it would be a tragedy. If it happened twice, it would be a tragedy with an urgent call to corrective action. But it is happening regularly, every few years. You look at Muslims on hajj, Muslims pouring into Europe, the picture is always the same - large, disorderly unruly crowds.



2004: A crush of pilgrims at Mina kills 244 pilgrims and injures hundreds on the final day of the hajjceremonies.

2001: A stampede at Mina during the final day of the pilgrimage ceremonies kills 35 hajj pilgrims.

1998: About 180 pilgrims are trampled to death in panic after several of them fell off an overpass during the final stoning ritual at Mina.

1997: At least 340 pilgrims are killed in a fire at the tent city of Mina as the blaze was aided by high winds. More than 1,500 were injured.

1994: Some 270 pilgrims are killed in a stampede during the stoning ritual at Mina.

1990: The worst hajj-related tragedy claims the lives of 1,426 pilgrims in a stampede in an overcrowded pedestrian tunnel leading to holy sites in Mecca.


Google 'Christian stampede' and you get nothing.

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Reply #51 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 10:08am
 
Soren wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 10:00am:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:01am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 6:25am:
.. another 700 Khoran Kaffirs out of the way....... no need to war with Islam since it does enough damage to itself on a daily basis.

How unimaginable that a group of religious devotees will literally stampede and knock each other down and trample one another in their zealotry.... goes to show the kind of non-thinking that goes into the whole thing.

What's killed more Muslims than Allied Bombing?  Islamic zealotry....


Zealotry was not the cause of the stampede.



Disorderliness is.  If it happened once, it would be a tragedy. If it happened twice, it would be a tragedy with an urgent call to corrective action. But it is happening regularly, every few years. You look at Muslims on hajj, Muslims pouring into Europe, the picture is always the same - large, disorderly unruly crowds.



2004: A crush of pilgrims at Mina kills 244 pilgrims and injures hundreds on the final day of the hajjceremonies.

2001: A stampede at Mina during the final day of the pilgrimage ceremonies kills 35 hajj pilgrims.

1998: About 180 pilgrims are trampled to death in panic after several of them fell off an overpass during the final stoning ritual at Mina.

1997: At least 340 pilgrims are killed in a fire at the tent city of Mina as the blaze was aided by high winds. More than 1,500 were injured.

1994: Some 270 pilgrims are killed in a stampede during the stoning ritual at Mina.

1990: The worst hajj-related tragedy claims the lives of 1,426 pilgrims in a stampede in an overcrowded pedestrian tunnel leading to holy sites in Mecca.


Google 'Christian stampede' and you get nothing.

1990. What a great result. 700 is a fair result though. Next year they'll do better.
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Re: A visit to Mecca is not for the faint-hearted ...
Reply #52 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 10:39am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 25th, 2015 at 9:14pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25th, 2015 at 7:34am:
Death cult, fanatics, mass deaths, ..................... sounds like islam to me.


We heard on tonight's news that the official press release statement from their govt re the latest incident was.....

It was God's will


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Yeah, God wants a few hundred pilgrims to be trampled to death by other pilgrims.  Is there a message there that these guys are not getting?  Something like, 'what the hell are you guys doing?!?! Are you outa your minds??"  Allahu Akhbar, geddit? He's telling Muslims to ease up on the superstition.



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Reply #53 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 2:33pm
 
Yes, I am aware that with their superstition and ignorance they have declared war on Western ideas like Pluralism, but I can't take any satisfaction in people getting killed in a stampede, no matter how stupid they and their religion are.
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Reply #54 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 3:20pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 8:10am:
Muslims are easily pleased -

give them a wall & a few stones to throw at it.

What pathetic imbeciles.



Yes bobby, they need a wailing wall where they can bang their head and thrust their pelvis.

What is it with religious ceremonies and walls?

At least the Christians don't need a wall, they can just say sorry and they're saved from purgatory.....too easy?

.....or too lazy to go to a wall?
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Re: A visit to Mecca is not for the faint-hearted ...
Reply #55 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 3:22pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 10:39am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 25th, 2015 at 9:14pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25th, 2015 at 7:34am:
Death cult, fanatics, mass deaths, ..................... sounds like islam to me.


We heard on tonight's news that the official press release statement from their govt re the latest incident was.....

It was God's will


Cheesy



Yeah, God wants a few hundred pilgrims to be trampled to death by other pilgrims.  Is there a message there that these guys are not getting?  Something like, 'what the hell are guys doing?!?! Are you outa your minds??"  Allahu Akhbar, geddit? He's telling Muslims to ease up on the superstition.






Gods will?

.....or just a mass of people too eager to get in the good books with him.
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Re: A visit to Mecca is not for the faint-hearted ...
Reply #56 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 5:35pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 3:22pm:
Soren wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 10:39am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 25th, 2015 at 9:14pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25th, 2015 at 7:34am:
Death cult, fanatics, mass deaths, ..................... sounds like islam to me.


We heard on tonight's news that the official press release statement from their govt re the latest incident was.....

It was God's will


Cheesy



Yeah, God wants a few hundred pilgrims to be trampled to death by other pilgrims.  Is there a message there that these guys are not getting?  Something like, 'what the hell are you guys doing?!?! Are you outa your minds??"  Allahu Akhbar, geddit? He's telling Muslims to ease up on the superstition.






Gods will?

.....or just a mass of people too eager to get in the good books with him.



Well, they believe it's god's will - but blame the Saudi authorities or the pilgrims.

They are not blaming god. What god is saying to them, though, is, 'Guys, enough wioth the mindless superstition.'

But they only hear what they want to hear.

Undecided
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Re: A visit to Mecca is not for the faint-hearted ...
Reply #57 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 6:49pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 10:00am:
Disorderliness is.  If it happened once, it would be a tragedy. If it happened twice, it would be a tragedy with an urgent call to corrective action. But it is happening regularly, every few years.


You were going so well up to this point. For a fleeting moment I thought you were actually going to make an insightful point about the inherent risks of having 2 million people together in one place and the need to implement more stringent controls.

but then you descended into...

Soren wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 10:00am:
You look at Muslims ... [blah blah blah]


Ah yes of course - its a 'muslim thing'. Thanks for bringing up back to earth Soren  Tongue
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Reply #58 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:10pm
 
many blessings ,

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anyone gleaning joy from this event

is not heart centered .. fear not beloveds ,

ye know not what ye do

you are forgiven

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Re: A visit to Mecca is not for the faint-hearted ...
Reply #59 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:11pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 8:10am:
Muslims are easily pleased -

give them a wall & a few stones to throw at it.

What pathetic imbeciles.


many blessings

such hatred in your life ,

humble like the dust ?

you are forgiven

so be at peace

namaste
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