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Reply #15 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 11:39am
 
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Re: You wonder why muslims are killers
Reply #16 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 5:27pm
 
wally1 wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 11:21am:
moses wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 10:50am:
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Is that list for real?

Surely it is a joke.

A link please Moses.


sunnah of the prophet

It's an irremissible part of the cult Redneck.


At least islam is documented well and not played with.

Jesus teaching's where documented 60 years after his death and the bible of now days are full of mistakes, contradictions and errors. What God would produce a book full of errors and contradictions?

Well, if the Koran is anything to go by, yes.


But of course god doesn't produce books.

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Re: You wonder why muslims are killers
Reply #17 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 5:30pm
 
wally1 wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 11:21am:
moses wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 10:50am:
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Is that list for real?

Surely it is a joke.

A link please Moses.


sunnah of the prophet

It's an irremissible part of the cult Redneck.


At least islam is documented well and not played with.

Jesus teaching's where documented 60 years after his death and the bible of now days are full of mistakes, contradictions and errors. What God would produce a book full of errors and contradictions?


you are mistaken
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Re: You wonder why muslims are killers
Reply #18 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:18pm
 
Here's some general rules for killers - sorry, Buddhists:

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Food

A monk is allowed to collect, receive and consume food between dawn and midday (taken to be 12 noon). He is not allowed to consume food outside of this time and he is not allowed to store food overnight. Plain water can be taken at any time without having to be offered. Although a monk lives on whatever is offered, vegetarianism is encouraged.

A monk must have all eatables and drinkables, except plain water, formally offered into his hands or placed on something in direct contact with his hands. In the Thai tradition, in order to prevent contact with a woman, he will generally set down a cloth to receive things offered by women. He is not allowed to cure or cook food except in particular circumstances.

In accordance with the discipline, a monk is prohibited from eating fruit or vegetables containing fertile seeds. So, when offering such things, a layperson can either remove the seeds or make the fruit allowable slightly damaging it with a knife. This is done by piercing the fruit and saying at the same time 'Kappiyam bhante' or 'I am making this allowable, Venerable Sir' (the English translation). It is instructive to note that, rather than limiting what can be offered, the Vinaya lays emphasis on the mode of offering. Offering should be done in a respectful manner, making the act of offering a mindful and reflective one, irrespective of what one is giving.

Clothing

Forest monks generally make their own robes from cloth that is given. Plain white cotton is always useful (it can be dyed to the correct dull ochre). The basic 'triple robe' of, the Buddha is supplemented with sweaters, tee-shirts, socks, etc. and these, of an appropriate brown colour, can also be offered.

Shelter

Solitary, silent and simple could be a fair description of the ideal lodging for a monk. From the scriptures it seems that the general standard of lodging was to neither cause discomfort nor impair health, yet not to be indulgently luxurious. Modest furnishings of a simple and utilitarian nature were also allowed, there being a rule against using 'high, luxurious beds or chairs', that is, items that are opulent by current standards. So a simple bed is an allowable thing to use, although most monks prefer the firmer surface provided by a mat or thick blanket spread on the floor.

The monk's precepts do not allow him to sleep more than three nights in the same room with an unordained male, and not even to lie down in the same sleeping quarters as a woman. In providing a temporary room for a night, a simple spare room that is private is adequate.

Medicine

A monk is allowed to use medicines if they are offered in the same way as food. Once offered, neither food nor medicine should be handled again by a layperson, as that renders it no longer allowable. Medicines can be considered as those things that are specifically for illness; those things having tonic or reviving quality (such as tea or sugar); and certain items which have a nutritional value in times of debilitation, hunger or fatigue (such as cheese or non-dairy chocolate).

Sundries

As circumstances changed, the Buddha allowed monks to make use of other small requisites, such as needles, a razor, etc. In modern times, such things might include a pen, a watch, a torch, etc. All of these were to be plain and simple, costly or luxurious items being expressly forbidden.

Invitation

The principles of mendicancy forbid a monk from asking for anything, unless he is ill, without having received an invitation. So when receiving food, for example, a monk makes himself available in a situation, where people wish to give food. At no time does the monk request food. This principle should be borne in mind when offering food; rather than asking a monk what he would like, it is better to ask if you can offer some food. Considering that the meal will be the only meal of the day, one can offer what seems right, recognising that the monk will take what he needs and leave the rest. A good way to offer is to bring bowls of food to the monk and let him choose what he needs from each bowl.

Tea and coffee can be offered at any time (if after noon, without milk). Sugar or honey can be offered at the same time to go with it.

One can also make an invitation to cover any circumstances that may arise which you may not be aware of by saying, for example, 'Bhante, if you need any medicine or requisites, please let me know'. To avoid any
misunderstanding, it is better to be quite specific about what you are offering. Unless specified, an invitation can only be accepted for up to four months, after which time it lapses unless renewed.

Inappropriate Items Including Money

T.V.'s and videos for entertainment should not be used by a monk. Under certain circumstances, a Dharma video or a documentary programme may be watched. In general, luxurious items are inappropriate for a monk to accept. This is because they are conducive to attachment in his own mind, and excite envy, possibly even the intention to steal, in the mind of another person. This is unwholesome Kamma. It also looks bad for an alms mendicant, living on charity as a source of inspiration to others, to have luxurious belongings. One who is content with little should be a light to a world where consumer instincts and greed are whipped up in people's minds.
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Re: You wonder why muslims are killers
Reply #19 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:38pm
 
Rules on utensils for Jewish killers:

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Utensils

Utensils (pots, pans, plates, flatware, etc., etc.) must also be kosher. A utensil picks up the kosher "status" (meat, dairy, pareve, or treif) of the food that is cooked in it or eaten off of it, and transmits that status back to the next food that is cooked in it or eaten off of it. Thus, if you cook chicken soup in a saucepan, the pan becomes meat. If you thereafter use the same saucepan to heat up some warm milk, the fleishik status of the pan is transmitted to the milk, and the milchik status of the milk is transmitted to the pan, making both the pan and the milk a forbidden mixture.

Kosher status can be transmitted from the food to the utensil or from the utensil to the food only in the presence of heat, (including hot spices) or prolonged contact, thus if you are eating cold food in a non-kosher establishment, the condition of the plates is not an issue. I knew an Orthodox rabbi who would eat ice cream at Friendly's, for example, because the ice cream was kosher and the utensils are irrelevant for such cold food. Likewise, you could use the same knife to slice cold cuts and cheese, as long as you clean it in between, but this is not really a recommended procedure, because it increases the likelihood of mistakes.

Stove tops and sinks routinely become non-kosher utensils, because they routinely come in contact with both meat and dairy in the presence of heat. It is necessary, therefore, to use dishpans when cleaning dishes (don't soak them directly in the sink) and to use separate spoon rests and trivets when putting things down on the stove top.

Dishwashers are a kashrut problem. If you are going to use a dishwasher for both meat and dairy in a kosher home, you either need to have separate dish racks or you need to run the dishwasher in between meat and dairy loads.

You should use separate towels and pot holders for meat and dairy. Routine laundering kashers such items, so you can simply launder them between using them for meat and dairy.

Certain kinds of utensils can be "kashered" if you make a mistake and use it with both meat and dairy. Consult a rabbi for guidance if this situation occurs.
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Re: You wonder why muslims are killers
Reply #20 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:46pm
 
A few rules for Hindu killers. Note the denial of sexual pleasure inherent to the death cult.

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Members must refrain from the use of alcohol, tobacco, and any illegal or immoral activity whether within or outside of the ashram.
No drugs whatsoever and no exceptions (immediate expulsion and loss of deposit) including outside of the ashram precincts.
Members must abstain from non-marital sexual relations. Complete celibacy is required both in and outside of the ashram for residents who are not married. An exception to this may be agreed to by the residents for the purposes of Tantric practices


And here's their Satanic program:

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5.30 am hatha yoga strong
6.30 am meditation
7.00 am breakfast
7.45 am karma yoga
11.00 am morning tea
11.30 am relaxation
12.00 am lunch
2.00 pm afternoon tea
2.15 pm karma yoga
4.00 pm hatha yoga strong
5.30 pm meditation
6.00 pm evening meal very light
7.00 pm evening program
8.30 pm silence
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Reply #21 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 7:52pm
 
Here, we see why Jews are such crazed murderers. It comes from their so-called "holy" book.

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A man and his woman are not allowed to touch, if they are neither related nor married. This is because of the fear that touching might lead to sexual transgressions. As an extension of this, Orthodox men aren't supposed to sit next to women to which they are neither related nor married.

A husband and wife may not touch if the woman is menstruating, or for a specified period after menstruation/childbirth (the length of the period varies depending on the sex of the child). This is because they are forbidden to have sex during this time, and the thought is that if the husband and wife touch in any way, they may be too strongly tempted.
Hence, during "niddah" (the time of the women's menstrual flow), additional restrictions are in place. These extra stringencies apply because the couple is already intimate; presumably, it doesn't take much to lead to "the act". These stringencies include:

They cannot touch (even indirectly using an intermediate object).

They cannot handle an object at the same time.

They cannot sit together on an object that moves (a swing etc..).

They cannot eat from the same plate.

They cannot serve food to each other.

They must sleep in separate beds.

They may not engage in flirtatious behavior.

Although spouses must continue to dress attractively, they cannot dress provacatively.

They should cover parts of the body that are normally uncovered only in front of their spouse.

They should not wear perfume, cologne, etc.

The only exception to these restrictions is pikuach nefesh (to save a life). More information can be found in Secret of Jewish Femininity.

As a result of this, many couples that observe these laws sleep on twin beds (pushed together during non-Niddah periods and during the day, so as not to make the status public). Sometimes, "fences" are used, such as one partner putting down something so the other can pick it up.

Men and women shouldn't be mixed during prayer. This is because the presence of the opposite sex is thought to be distracting during prayer. Additionally, a person ought to pray from an orientation of aloneness, as opposed to completeness.
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Reply #22 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 8:02pm
 
Here we see why Benedictine monks are such fanatics. They must obey their orders without question.

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5. Obedience

The first step of humility is to obey without delay. This is proper for those who — because they have promised holy subjection, or because of the fear of hell, or the glory of life everlasting — hold nothing more precious than Christ. The moment the Abbot commands anything they obey instantly as if commanded by God Himself. As the Lord says, “At the hearing of the ear he has obeyed me” [Ps 17:45]. This obedience, though, will be acceptable to God and men, only if it is done without hesitation, delay, lukewarmness, grumbling or complaint, because the obedience which is given to Abbots is given to God. For he himself says to the teachers, “Anyone who hears you hears me” [Lk. 10:16]. Disciples must obey with good will, “for the Lord loves a cheerful giver” [2 Cor. 9:7]. If they obey with ill will, and murmur with their lips and in their hearts, even if they fulfill the command, it is not acceptable to God, who sees the heart of the murmurer. Such action deserves punishment rather than reward.


Here is why they oppose our society:

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33. Possessions

The vice of personal ownership must by all means be cut out in the monastery by the very root, so that no one may presume to give or receive anything without the command of the Abbot; or to have anything whatever as his own, neither a book, nor a writing tablet, nor a pen, nor anything else whatsoever, since monks are allowed to have neither their bodies nor their wills in their own power. They must look for all necessities from the Abbot, and have nothing without his permission. Let everyone have all things in common, as it is written, no one kept anything as his own [Acts 4:32].


Believe it or not, they pray to their Satanic god more than the Muselman:

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16. Performing the Divine Office Throughout the Day

The Prophet says, “Seven times a day I praise you” [Ps 119:164], and we will fulfill this sacred number of seven if we perform the duties of our daytime service at the time of Lauds, Prime, Tierce, Sext, Nones, Vespers, and Compline. [These services were every two or three hours throughout the day.] The same Prophet also says of the night watches, “At midnight, I arise to praise you” [Ps 119:62]. So, let us offer praise to our Creator “for his righteous ordinances", at Lauds, Prime, Tierce, Sext, Nones, Vespers, and Compline, and let us rise at night to praise him. [The nighttime service was called Matins.]
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Reply #23 - Sep 27th, 2015 at 9:40pm
 
Read all of the above I don't believe any of them come close to being as utterly stupid and fanatical as the islamic indoctrination.

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Eat with three fingers, don't blow on hot food, pick food up off the floor and eat it, continuously praying to the demon allah, lick you fingers.

Drink with your right hand,  it is evil to drink with your left, drink in 3 breaths, sit down to drink, pray before drinking, pray after drinking, sip the drink remove the drink after each sip, pray pray and more praying to demon allah.

Before sleeping make the bed yourself, dust it three times, put some cream in your eyes, always praying to demon allah, clean your teeth, sleep on your right side, put your hand under your head, keep your knees bent, blow over your body, pray pray and more prayers.

When you wake up rub your eyes pray pray and more prayers to satan allah.

When you wear clothes put the right limb on first, when you get undressed take the left limb off first, males wear their clothes above the ankle, females below the ankle, males wear "topee" or turban, females wear scarves, put the right shoe on first, left shoe on last, take the left shoe off first, right shoe last, pray pray and more praying.

When you go to the toilet, always cover your head, always wear shoes, pray before you go in, enter with your left foot first, sit down to pee, never pee standing up, leave with your right foot, never speak when in the toilet, urinate in a straight line or you will be punished in the grave.

This is self imposed insanity of the worst kind, can you imagine the outcries of indignation from the self loathing lefties if some Christians were to rule their members like this?

The qur'an is riddled with verses which tell these brain dead self indoctrinated lunatics, it is perfectly O.k. to rape torture and mass murder people. Thus we have a world wide problem with the most heinous islamic atrocities, all committed with the clearest of conscience by depraved muslims.

islam a satanic death cult.

Then again if I've got it wrong let me know when the Buddhists, Hindus and Jews are the subject of world wide terror laws.

Let me know when the Buddhists, Hindus and Jews crush 717 of their own and injure 850 due to their mindless fanaticism,

Let me know when there are millions of Buddhists, Hindus and Jews fleeing their own kind, because their own self indoctrinated brothers are devoutly following their tenets of rape torture and mass murder.

Let me know when the Buddhists, Hindus and Jews are a world wide threat and impediment to the entire civilized world.
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Re: You wonder why muslims are killers
Reply #24 - Sep 27th, 2015 at 9:53pm
 
Satan is laughing at muslims all over the world.
I bet he has a belly ache.
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Reply #25 - Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:42am
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 8:02pm:
Here we see why Benedictine monks are such fanatics. They must obey their orders without question.


But do they stampede and trample each other, PB?

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Reply #26 - Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:52am
 
moses wrote on Sep 27th, 2015 at 9:40pm:
Read all of the above I don't believe any of them come close to being as utterly stupid and fanatical as the islamic indoctrination.

Laughing censored.

Eat with three fingers, don't blow on hot food, pick food up off the floor and eat it, continuously praying to the demon allah, lick you fingers.

Drink with your right hand,  it is evil to drink with your left, drink in 3 breaths, sit down to drink, pray before drinking, pray after drinking, sip the drink remove the drink after each sip, pray pray and more praying to demon allah.

Before sleeping make the bed yourself, dust it three times, put some cream in your eyes, always praying to demon allah, clean your teeth, sleep on your right side, put your hand under your head, keep your knees bent, blow over your body, pray pray and more prayers.

When you wake up rub your eyes pray pray and more prayers to satan allah.

When you wear clothes put the right limb on first, when you get undressed take the left limb off first, males wear their clothes above the ankle, females below the ankle, males wear "topee" or turban, females wear scarves, put the right shoe on first, left shoe on last, take the left shoe off first, right shoe last, pray pray and more praying.

When you go to the toilet, always cover your head, always wear shoes, pray before you go in, enter with your left foot first, sit down to pee, never pee standing up, leave with your right foot, never speak when in the toilet, urinate in a straight line or you will be punished in the grave.

This is self imposed insanity of the worst kind, can you imagine the outcries of indignation from the self loathing lefties if some Christians were to rule their members like this?

The qur'an is riddled with verses which tell these brain dead self indoctrinated lunatics, it is perfectly O.k. to rape torture and mass murder people. Thus we have a world wide problem with the most heinous islamic atrocities, all committed with the clearest of conscience by depraved muslims.

islam a satanic death cult.

Then again if I've got it wrong let me know when the Buddhists, Hindus and Jews are the subject of world wide terror laws.

Let me know when the Buddhists, Hindus and Jews crush 717 of their own and injure 850 due to their mindless fanaticism,

Let me know when there are millions of Buddhists, Hindus and Jews fleeing their own kind, because their own self indoctrinated brothers are devoutly following their tenets of rape torture and mass murder.

Let me know when the Buddhists, Hindus and Jews are a world wide threat and impediment to the entire civilized world.


It's advice on how to conduct yourself in medieval Arabia. Those who follow these rules today miss the point, as do Orthodox Jews who follow the laws of Leviticus.

Mind you, I've stayed in ashrams with very similar rules: wash your hands before eating, eat with your right hand, wash your own plate afterwards. People form an orderly queue to do these things, and join in the chanting as they do it.

The advice on sitting is important. Sitting on a hard floor to eat is difficult for Westerners. Telling you how to sit properly is good advice - I've never been told this in an ashram.

My weakness is that I often buck the rules - unconsciously and consciously. I often get in trouble for jumping in the wrong meal queue or entering the meditation hall through the women's door. There are good reasons for having these rules. One is that some people chose to live in silence - having things written down helps. There is no need for communication.

Another is that you submit to the program. You have a daily schedule. You do what everyone else does. You submit your ego to this process, and in doing so, aim to give up your ego.

This is why I hate these rules. My ego baulks at them.

I've often thought the most tidy, well-organized and respectful parts of India are its ashrams. Everywhere else is chaos. Ashrams function so well because those who participate do so for a higher purpose. When you're eating or talking or doing work, you're not doing so to eat or talk or work, you're doing it as service to the community and, ultimately, to God. When you feed yourself, you're feeding God. When you're talking to someone, you're talking to god. When you're working, you're not sweeping a path, you're meditating on God.

The rules we're discussing for Muslims are in the same spirit.
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Reply #27 - Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:57am
 
Soren wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:42am:
Karnal wrote on Sep 26th, 2015 at 8:02pm:
Here we see why Benedictine monks are such fanatics. They must obey their orders without question.


But do they stampede and trample each other, PB?



The way to avoid stampeding and trampling is through crowd management and self-restraint, old boy. Rules.

I thought you'd welcome this. As a liberal, I mean.
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Reply #28 - Sep 28th, 2015 at 11:04am
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:52am:
I've often thought the most tidy, well-organized and respectful parts of India are its ashrams. Everywhere else is chaos. Ashrams function so well because those who participate do so for a higher purpose. When you're eating or talking or doing work, you're not doing so to eat or talk or work, you're doing it as service to the community and, ultimately, to God. When you feed yourself, you're feeding God. When you're talking to someone, you're talking to god. When you're working, you're not sweeping a path, you're meditating on God.

The rules we're discussing for Muslims are in the same spirit.

Not at all.There is no Muslim spiritual community akin to ashrams and monasteries. The communal expressions of Islam are mass rallies like the self-flogging of the shia and the mass rallies at hajj and the stoning of the pillars. The reason is simple: there is no communing with god in Islam because Allah is utterly inaccessible. You can't meditate on Allah, or commune with Allah.
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Reply #29 - Sep 28th, 2015 at 11:06am
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:57am:
h crowd management and self-restraint, old boy. Rules.


Ah! that's why the Mususmans can't do it then - they are not good at self-restraint.


Got it, thanks.

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