polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 29^th, 2015 at 11:13am:


You are skirting around the problem again, in an attempt to cover up the truth about Islam. How would we know they were Ms, unless they were advertising it in some way? Anyone confusing ethnicity with belief is adding to the problem. (Like you) In many cases, people claiming faith are not practicing the tenets because they know they are stupid.  However, if a person claims to believe the crap in Koran, a real Muzzlim, you should check there are no sharp instruments in their reach.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 29^th, 2015 at 11:52am:



gandalf,





Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.





AND [....you seem to have missed the implications being made,        BY MOSLEMS,       the last time i posted these items   ------- >       ]


Mainstream ISLAMIC doctrine allows/agrees;

ALL non-moslems ['disbelievers'] are 'guilty' people.

And ISLAMIC doctrine allows/agrees that it is 'lawful' for a moslem to kill those, who do not believe, as they [moslems] believe.


n.b.
The date of the article below;     The 7/7 attack in London occurred in 2005.

e.g.
Quote:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&on...


n.b.
"...the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."


And moslems can draw authority for that mainstream doctrine, from Koran verses, such as.....

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11




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God's word counsels everyone who loves God;

To hate evil and, [for our own welfare] to physically separate ourselves from those who we judge to be the purveyors of evil and violence.

Maybe you would disagree, on that course gandalf ?



2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


Revelation 18:4
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.




Psalms 34:14
Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it.


Proverbs 22:24
Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go:
25  Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul.


Proverbs 29:22
An angry man stirreth up strife, and a furious man aboundeth in transgression.


Amos 5:14
Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken.
15  and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.


Romans 12:9
.....Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.


1 Peter 3:11
Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.

eschew = = abstain.



Reading scripture teaches me, teaches my heart,        ....that peace among men can flourish, when/if a people have a love of truth and judgement [....of wrongdoers].




If that is indeed the 'teaching', then how am i to ever meant discern the difference, between what is good, and what is evil ?

And yes, i believe that i am charged by God, to try to make that judgement.

That is my measure.

And that is your measure also gandalf,     .....THAT YOU CHOOSE, HAVE CHOSEN, TO FOLLOW ISLAM.



That is the 'message' which i have gleaned, from reading scripture.



Matthew 13:47
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48  Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
49  So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50  And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


Luke 3:8
Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
9  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.





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Sorry lisa, bobby.

another fail.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 29^th, 2015 at 11:52am:



gandalf,





Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.







God's word counsels everyone who loves God;

To hate evil and, [for our own welfare] to physically separate ourselves from those who we judge to be the purveyors of evil and violence.

Maybe you would disagree, on that course gandalf ?




God, is about righteousness, and peace.

Peace and joy, is what God promises to his 'children'.

.....not to criminals.



Psalms 97:10
Ye that love the LORD, hate evil:...


Psalms 106:3
Blessed are they that keep judgment, and he that doeth righteousness at all times.


Proverbs 15:9
The way of the wicked is an abomination unto the LORD: but he loveth him that followeth after righteousness.

Proverbs 17:15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.


Proverbs 28:4
They that forsake the law praise the wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them.
5  Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.



n.b.
God in the Bible says that men can choose,         .....to do whatever they like, so long as men understand that they will be judged for the consequences of their choices.

Crime and oppression, is what God hates.

Righteousness in man, is what God requires.

Everyone of us, will be judged.

And, i am not a man without sin.



Psalms 11:4
The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5  The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.


Psalms 146:8
The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 29^th, 2015 at 11:13am:


Come on now, gandalf, there's no need to be disingenuous about this.

All Muslims are Carriers of the same Islamic infection that prompted fellow Muslims to crash planes into tall buildings and do other horrific things of a violent nature in the name of Allah.

Of course the Muslims passing you in the street are WAY more likely to be harbouring an Australian-born son or daughter at home who is getting fired-up by jihadist propaganda on the internet than the non-Muslims walking the same street.

Julia says there are now 120 Australian Muslims fighting for ISIS in the Middle East - twice as many as last year - and god knows how many sympathisers are lurking back here in our own suburbs.

When your own government believes the threat from Muslim youths here in Australia is so great that they need to hand out Instruction Guides to the teachers on how to spot these budding jihadists in the schools - then you know it's time to start viewing all Muslims with a certain amount of unspoken reserve.i

Yadda wrote on Sep 29^th, 2015 at 12:47pm:


No, Y, that's FD's argument for Freeeeedom.

It is a jolly world, no?

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 29^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:


ah disingenuous - is that what it is?

Interesting, so you think its a little unreasonable of me to object to the labelling of myself, my friends, my family - and 1 billion other people - every single one of them - as "latent wannabe homocidal maniacs" - with one broad sweep of the brush?

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 29^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:


Why? He was just dealing with the race traitors in the fullness of time, Herbie.

You stop being such a hand-wringing, cringing, spineless apologist.