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Reply #30 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 2:59pm

"What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us.
This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments,"

1 Corinthians 2:12-15

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95204 Gender:	Re: Gandalf..got a question for you. Reply #31 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 3:02pm Which part’s about the trinity, Sprint? I think G’s still a bit confused. Let’s bring him back.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40679 Gender:	Re: Gandalf..got a question for you. Reply #32 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 3:08pm '....................The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. ..............'
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Reply #33 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:34pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

'....................The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. ..............'

1 Corinthians 2:14

John 11:35 Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #34 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 5:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:34pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

'....................The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. ..............'

1 Corinthians 2:14

John 11:35 Roll Eyes

yes, and moh raped, killed and tortured people

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Reply #35 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 6:35pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 3:08pm:

'....................The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. ..............'

That’s about the Spirit of God, Sprint. You said you were going to show us the parts with the trinity.

If you can’t Find any, how are we going to bring G back into the fold?

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40679 Gender:	Re: Gandalf..got a question for you. Reply #36 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 6:38pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 3:08pm: '....................The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. ..............'
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Reply #37 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 6:54pm

Come on, Sprint, we’re Christians. We have a duty to help others grow in their understanding of God. First and foremost, we have a duty to back up our words with actions.

We should never quote the Holy Bible in an insincere, blasphemous manner.This is a sin. We’re here to learn more about God and help others in their learning.

If you won’t post the parts about the trinity, I’ll have to ask someone else. I’ve Googled it and come up with nothing.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Gandalf..got a question for you. Reply #38 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:15pm Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. No?
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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: Gandalf..got a question for you. Reply #39 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:16pm polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:15pm: Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. No? So if Australia went to war with Saudi Arabia would you join the fight Gandalf????
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40679 Gender:	Re: Gandalf..got a question for you. Reply #40 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:19pm Quote: ...............The person without the Spirit......... cannot understand............
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Reply #41 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:23pm

issuevoter wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 11:52pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 7:08pm:

Oh boy, here we go. The angel Gabriel came to him just like his hero Mohammed.

If you have nothing to contribute, why do you bother posting?

Nothing to contribute?

First of all, the OP does not ask me for a contribution, it asks you. I made a comment on that request, and in so doing I ridicule your pathetic interpretation of reality.

Interpretation of reality eh?

If you'll recall you suggested that my life journey into Islam would involve a claim about hearing the revelation from the angel Gabriel himself. And if you really believe that muslims routinely claim that they found Islam through such an epiphany - then I suggest its your "interpretation of reality" that is pathetic and deserves ridicule - not mine.

What happened Issue - did a muslim stomp on your puppy when you were a kid?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #42 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:26pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:23pm:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 11:52pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 7:08pm:

Oh boy, here we go. The angel Gabriel came to him just like his hero Mohammed.

If you have nothing to contribute, why do you bother posting?

Nothing to contribute?

First of all, the OP does not ask me for a contribution, it asks you. I made a comment on that request, and in so doing I ridicule your pathetic interpretation of reality.

Interpretation of reality eh?

If you'll recall you suggested that my life journey into Islam would involve a claim about hearing the revelation from the angel Gabriel himself. And if you really believe that muslims routinely claim that they found Islam through such an epiphany - then I suggest its your "interpretation of reality" that is pathetic and deserves ridicule - not mine.

What happened Issue - did a muslim stomp on your puppy when you were a kid?

So do you put an Australian person over an Islamic person gandalf???

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Reply #43 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:27pm

double plus good wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:16pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:15pm:

Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

No?

So if Australia went to war with Saudi Arabia would you join the fight Gandalf????

When we *DID* go to war with Iraq - did you join the fight?

If we were invaded by any country, its probable that I would join the defense. But if you're asking if I would join in an attack against a sovereign nation that had nothing to do with our own defense (you know, the usual story), then obviously no.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #44 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:28pm

Q: "What about the doctrine of the Trinity, the Holy Trinity?"

our A: You and I live in a three-dimensional world. All physical objects have a certain height, width, and depth. One person can look like someone else, or behave like someone else, or even sound like someone else. But a person cannot actually be the same as another person. They are distinct individuals.

God, however, lives without the limitations of a three-dimensional universe. He is spirit. And he is infinitely more complex than we are.

That is why Jesus the Son can be different from the Father. And, yet the same.

The Bible clearly speaks of: God the Son, God the Father, and God the Holy Spirit. But emphasizes that there is only ONE God.

If we were to use math, it would not be, 1+1+1=3. It would be 1x1x1=1. God is a triune God.

Thus the term: "Tri" meaning three, and "Unity" meaning one, Tri+Unity = Trinity. It is a way of acknowledging what the Bible reveals to us about God, that God is yet three "Persons" who have the same essence of deity. Some have tried to give human illustrations for the Trinity, such as H2O being water, ice and steam (all different forms, but all are H2O). Another illustration would be the sun. From it we receive light, heat and radiation. Three distinct aspects, but only one sun.

No illustration is going to be perfect.

But from the very beginning we see God as a Trinity. Notice the plural pronouns "us" and "our" in Genesis 1:26 -- Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Though not a complete list, here is some other Scripture that shows God is one, in Trinity:

"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!" (Deut. 6:4)

"I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." (Isa. 45:5)

There is no God but one. (1Cor. 8:4)

And after being baptized, Jesus went up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon Him, and behold, a voice out of the heavens, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased." (Matt. 3:16-17)

"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit." (Matt. 28:19)

Jesus said: "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30)

"He who has seen Me has seen the Father." (John 14:9)

"He who beholds Me beholds the One who sent Me." (John 12:45)

If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. (Rom. 8:9)

"Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for that which has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit." (Matt. 1:20)

And the angel answered and said to her [Mary], "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy offspring shall be called the Son of God." (Luke 1:35)

[Jesus speaking to His disciples] "And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you, and will be in you." ... "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him, and make Our abode with him." (John 14:16-17, 23)

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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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