Better make it detailed, G. FD will have supplimentaries.

issuevoter wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 7:08pm:


Hmmm.

issuevoter wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 7:08pm:


If you have nothing to contribute, why do you bother posting?

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 8:08pm:


thanks for your direct answer Gandalf.

your questions are all pretty readily answered in any bible.

Would Gandalf fight for Australia against a Muslim country if he had to?

I was born into a muslim family, I am of arab heritage - from a religious islamic background.

I was introduced to Christianity by a friend, who also later became my wife. For most of my life I have believed in God also. I looked at atheism also for a period and also came to the conclusion that I was lying to myself.

I always had difficulty with the islamic doctrine - well to me it seemed that it was plaigiarised from christianity: why was Judas on the Cross, not Christ, and why was ishmael going to be sacrificed and not isaac, it seemd like they were angry and needed to just twist what was already done. Mohammed to me wasn't a holy man any one could see that and allah who was suppossed to be god always rewarded people with carnal pleasures. Then historically looking at it I found there was no basis or evidence at all that mohammed even existed nor the quran about 100 years after he's so called purported death. I was under threat of violence if I left Islam as its good book states and no one I knew truly had innerpeace. Even the science in the book claimed to be true was incorrect and clearly written by some human and not a god because it was wrong. Even all the rituals were stolen from other pagan religions of the day.

And then I met a missionary in my country who was a lovely person. She explained to me Jesus and why he needed to die for our sins. I had many questions. Since mankind chose to sin against God and they knew the wages of sin was death then each man simply needed to pay that debt since they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. God in his love sent his only Son as a sacrifice for all mankind to filled that sacrifice to show how much he loved mankind. As a true loving God would. Then after Jesus rose from the dead and conquered death and sin God's Holy Spirit came into the world and now dwells inside every Christian as  Comforter and Guide and healer bringing peace that surpasses understanding. He knocks at the door of every mans heart thus being the nature of God and if he is rejected as the truth will not enter. The trinity isn't that hard for me at all. God the Father, His Son , The Holy Spirit are simply all one in Spirit. Thus all 3 persons making up one Godhead all agreeable. This is more like a real God than an angry God who demands someone pray for every single action they make invading every single part of their lives like islam tries to do to demand adherence 24/7 which no one really can and tread down on women and the weak which is what it does. When I became a Christian I challenged God and He made himself real to me and His spirit entered me. With His spirit came great peace and understanding and guidance in all aspects of my life. Sure we still stuff up but at least we have salvation and god understands.

Islam to me was salvation through threats of an angry god if you never did what he said.That made no sense since we naturally want to sin. Heaven and hell make perfect sense given the spiritual nature of the beings involved. Prophetically even the bible last prophecies are being fulfilled to this day.

So my journey into Christianity goes like this compared to yours ironically. I have a belief in God and his creation of mankind and his plan for mankind also. That is innate, completely separate to any religious doctrine also. And once you (or at least 'I') have this starting point, you then go about looking at which religious doctrine best explains the nature of God and His plan and the meaning of life. And for me it is was Christianity. In my case it was the Holy Spirits infiltration and infilling that really drove home the Spirit of God. The closest way a real God can be with you is to intwine His spirit with yours and thats what He does. For the wicked they need to listen to that small still voice and accept His offer of salvation in the heart and thats it. Free and too easy. Then once His spirit comes in you desire to strive to live a loving helpful life shining a light into everyone elses so they too can be spiritually set free.

As opposed to Islam which just seemed fanatical to me in adherence with no spirituality what so ever nor inner peace, I looked at Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism and a cult or two and looking back now I can see the Evil Spiritual forces at work in some including islam. Islam failed the worst because of its real hatred of others and the way it tried to make out allah was Abrahams God. allah has no son and the prophets foretold God's Son that negates the islammic claim of the so called allah being the one true god.


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Now at this point does anyone really believe me here ?
A good part of that post was true. Which part I bet you can't guess.

Your answer to yourself makes my point.




Lets face it.

Ask a muslim how they became muslim. 99% (truthfully) will say born into it as that is where 99% growth comes from. But it seems we here have struck Gold it seems. One that wasn't of Arabic Descent and looked at all other religions and decides yes Islam was the one because it was so smart and makes so much sense. Not to mention the usual Atheism sucks and we must mention our arch rival Christianity and of course that totally sucks lol. Both have more basis for belief both theoretically,historically and scientifically than the story of islam. Ask any homosexual they will tell you they were born that way even if they decided they just liked it more in their twenties whilst smoking dope.

I could have believed this if he said yes my family was Islamic but as I grew up and started thinking for myself I studied blah blah did this and came to this conclusion.

The old I was one of you and turned after looking at everyone else chestnut pfft. That was coming a mile off.

Seriously, how gullible do we post.

I can't believe the OP never saw that coming, or maybe they did.

Karnal wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 9:04pm:


He wont answer it because there is no concept of trinity in the bible, its a man made concept.