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Reply #375 - Oct 4^th, 2015 at 10:30am

cods wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 10:07am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

Lisa, you are not doing women a favour by misleading them.

Someone reading your posts might not call a cab in an emergency because you gave wrong information.

Taxi drivers DO know where the refuges are.

Anyone needing to get a taxi to the women's refuge?

The Pat Giles refuge can provide safe, crisis housing for single women and women with children to 18 years who have experienced family violence. ...

a refuge in an emergency phone Crisis Care 9223 1111 and they will assist you with a taxi.

http://patgilescentre.org.au/what-we-do/accommodation/

well done pansi.. but they are not the taxi company...thats what aussie is claiming he can get anyone to find out where they are even though hes already claimed he knows where they are....

very few people would have these addresses...as we have seen pansi in your neck of the woods Qld.. 3 women in one week murdered by their partners..

do dvos work.. no they dont....we have some very violent people out there who are hell bent on taking someones life...one of those women was also pregnant.. so two lives gone just like that.

Broken bones, stitches and black eyes...

Mel's Story:

'I left my ex-partner last year after years of abuse and after seeing fear in the eyes of my daughters as they screamed and cried in fear. I had finally hit a breaking point and could not do it to them; or myself, any longer. I didn’t want family violence to become our ‘normal’.

The violence had been horrific at times; he had punched me so hard that my teeth split through my face, leaving me in hospital to get stitches. He broke my bones, gave me bloodied and broken noses, swollen lips, black eyes. He smashed things in our home because he felt he could.

We had protection orders in place in the past and he breached them several times; I just didn't feel like it was ever taken seriously. There weren't consequences and nothing really changed.

Despite him attending counselling and anger management courses, things got worse and I realised the need for my children to understand what healthy and respectful relationships looked like was slipping away. If they grew up thinking it was normal a woman to be intimidated, emotionally abused and physically assaulted by her partner- I would have never have been able to forgive myself.

Upon leaving, the abuse escalated. I received support through the local Domestic Violence Centre and other support and women's legal services but my life was turned upside down daily; not helped by the loopholes in the court systems that allowed him to continue abusing us by manipulating the system that was supposed to be protecting us.

I feel passionate about this. Things must change. Domestic Violence impacted us in a way that left us broken and feeling helpless and scared. I want to influence the Governments response to DV victims so they are better protected and do not have to go through what I have; and am still going through every single day.'

....from a petition I signed at change.org

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Reply #377 - Oct 4^th, 2015 at 10:35am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 10:29am:

cods wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 10:24am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 10:16am:

http://www.community.nsw.gov.au/docs_menu/parents_carers_and_families/domestic_a...

Call, talk....they will help you with next step planning.

Problem no 1.

Getting a call through in the 1st place.Expect to wait forever IF your call gets through.

This needs to change.

weve have had lifeline since forever lisa....

we all need to step up...we leave it for the few to deal with....

now its become an avalanche out of control.

YES

YES

YES.

Pssst...I've got 2 kids studying law. Both are aiming to get into this area and help out.

They could easily make better money in other areas of law....but they want to make a difference

You must be so proud, Lisa.

You've raised a couple of do-gooder lefties Smiley

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: ••• DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ••• Reply #378 - Oct 4^th, 2015 at 10:39am Some interesting petitions and websites are coming up now. Links would be good though. Some of us might want to read and sign up on them.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: ••• DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ••• Reply #379 - Oct 4^th, 2015 at 12:14pm sadly heres more.. http://news.sky.com/story/1395456/domestic-abuse-victims-warned-over-presents
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Reply #380 - Oct 4^th, 2015 at 12:18pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 10:30am:

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WOW thats a first... thank you.... I am usually called nasty names for my posts...

You haven't noticed that your pockets are full and are very, very wet, cods?

ummmmmmmmmmmm I could ask what the hell does that mean....but I cant be bothered...

you do realise this is a thread about domestic violence would you make some kind of effort and not use this thread to denigrate someone else... Angry

lisa perhaps you know what 'willis' is talking about...

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Reply #382 - Oct 4^th, 2015 at 12:40pm

cods wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 5:34pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 11:36am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2015 at 11:32am:

How The Shaitan did this turn into yet another discussion of paedophiles?

All this side-tracking nonsense obscures the issues we are trying to address here - FAMILY violence, as Rose Batty herself USED to call it before the PC mob got hold of her and told her that the current handling of 'domestic violence' is and always has been 'male v female' ONLY - which is precisely the biggest problem with the whole thing.

While ever you give 50% of a dispute a free hand and persecute the other 50% over any whim or tizz - you are generating violence within a relationship. Pure and simple - and in this regard the fools who are running the show need a total revamp of their current approach.

Ambushing Rose Batty in that way will NOT change things any way but for the worse, since a continuation of bashing men on whim will only result in an escalation of violence, since it IS itself violence writ large.

It is apparently cods' trigger point and only topic. Why dont you tell her that paedos have the right to lvie and see how she treats you!

hilarious at l,east shes admitted it.. they have a right to live in any suburb.. without the residence being notified.......lets spell it right out....that is what you said.. and I disagreed....

I do not wish this topic to be taken over by a simpering longweekend..it is too important..

so enough already...

And there you go making my point for me. Too much booze again?

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Reply #383 - Oct 4^th, 2015 at 12:44pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 9:56am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 9:31am:

I think we need to carefully differentiate here between women genuinely escaping violence and women simply becoming homeless for any number of reasons. Often placing all of these in the same basket confuses the figures - as does adding children with women in all cases thus inflating the figures of violence when it does occur - and perhaps that is why there is this apparently rigid case management system.

Those deemed to be in a low level of danger are moved into alternative accommodation.

The housing system is clogged everywhere.

I note there is not a single men's refuge from violence.

There are. Very few though.

What would be the value of a SECRET refuge? You sound like you are describing ASIO safe houses. Most refuges are well known and have priority access to police.

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Reply #384 - Oct 4^th, 2015 at 1:28pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 12:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 9:56am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 9:31am:

I think we need to carefully differentiate here between women genuinely escaping violence and women simply becoming homeless for any number of reasons. Often placing all of these in the same basket confuses the figures - as does adding children with women in all cases thus inflating the figures of violence when it does occur - and perhaps that is why there is this apparently rigid case management system.

Those deemed to be in a low level of danger are moved into alternative accommodation.

The housing system is clogged everywhere.

I note there is not a single men's refuge from violence.

There are. Very few though.

What would be the value of a SECRET refuge? You sound like you are describing ASIO safe houses. Most refuges are well known and have priority access to police.

well known by those working in that field maybe, but the community in general usually has no idea. It's not like they advertise

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Reply #385 - Oct 4^th, 2015 at 1:34pm

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 1:28pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 12:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 9:56am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 9:31am:

I think we need to carefully differentiate here between women genuinely escaping violence and women simply becoming homeless for any number of reasons. Often placing all of these in the same basket confuses the figures - as does adding children with women in all cases thus inflating the figures of violence when it does occur - and perhaps that is why there is this apparently rigid case management system.

Those deemed to be in a low level of danger are moved into alternative accommodation.

The housing system is clogged everywhere.

I note there is not a single men's refuge from violence.

There are. Very few though.

What would be the value of a SECRET refuge? You sound like you are describing ASIO safe houses. Most refuges are well known and have priority access to police.

well known by those working in that field maybe, but the community in general usually has no idea. It's not like they advertise

The neighbours will know, and that means everyone will know.

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Reply #386 - Oct 4^th, 2015 at 1:37pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 12:44pm:

Most refuges are well known and have priority access to police.

Well known?

Not likely.

If you asked 20 men on the street, I doubt one would know where they are or if there was any at all., unless they have an association with them through business.

The only women that know are those that have had a reason to visit someone in one, been to one for DV issues or for some type of social work. Women don't usually give the addresses to away willy nilly either.

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Reply #387 - Oct 4^th, 2015 at 1:41pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 1:34pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 1:28pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 12:44pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 9:56am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 9:31am:

I think we need to carefully differentiate here between women genuinely escaping violence and women simply becoming homeless for any number of reasons. Often placing all of these in the same basket confuses the figures - as does adding children with women in all cases thus inflating the figures of violence when it does occur - and perhaps that is why there is this apparently rigid case management system.

Those deemed to be in a low level of danger are moved into alternative accommodation.

The housing system is clogged everywhere.

I note there is not a single men's refuge from violence.

There are. Very few though.

What would be the value of a SECRET refuge? You sound like you are describing ASIO safe houses. Most refuges are well known and have priority access to police.

well known by those working in that field maybe, but the community in general usually has no idea. It's not like they advertise

The neighbours will know, and that means everyone will know.

rubbish ... that means the neighbors know and maybe a few others that know them , the community in general has no idea. If I tell you there is a shelter near bobs place, have you any idea where I'm talking about?

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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: ••• DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ••• Reply #389 - Oct 4^th, 2015 at 1:45pm Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 1:37pm: The only women that know are those that have had a reason to visit someone in one true ... the woman i mentioned earlier had no idea they even existed until they were referred to her by police.
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