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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Oct 1^st, 2015 at 9:37am So now we are part of bombing Syrian groups out to replace Assad ... under the pretence the coalition including Russia is bombing ISIS. How dumb was it for Turnbull to trust Russia. How dumb was Turnbull not to see this coming.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59402 Here Gender:	Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Reply #1 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 9:39am I like to see Liberals leaders delving into foreign policy as we seen with Howard the more time he spent stuffing up in this area the less he stuffed up on Australian domestic policy.
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Reply #2 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 10:51am

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 9:37am:

So now we are part of bombing Syrian groups out to replace Assad ... under the pretence the coalition including Russia is bombing ISIS.

How dumb was it for Turnbull to trust Russia. How dumb was Turnbull not to see this coming.

We didn't mind the Soviets bombing the Germans in WW2? What's the diff dumbarse Greens_win?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend (for the moment) Cheesy

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Reply #3 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 11:13am

Swagman wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 10:51am:

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 9:37am:

So now we are part of bombing Syrian groups out to replace Assad ... under the pretence the coalition including Russia is bombing ISIS.

How dumb was it for Turnbull to trust Russia. How dumb was Turnbull not to see this coming.

We didn't mind the Soviets bombing the Germans in WW2? What's the diff dumbarse Greens_win?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend (for the moment) Cheesy

Which enemy?

The Russians that shot down MH17 ... or the Syrian attempting to replace Assad that the Russians are now bombing ... or ISIS ???

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Reply #4 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 1:42pm So you support ISIS then?
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Reply #5 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 1:58pm Russia bombing Syrian Groups attempting to remove Assad, that are not connected with ISIS. And Turnbull backs this. Nothing to do with ISIS.
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Reply #6 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:02pm

Russia bombs US-backed forces, leaves IS alone

The Kremlin and the US are at odds over accounts of who Russia bombed in its first Syrian air mission.

There are fears American-backed anti-IS forces have been hit by Russian aircrafts carrying out their first bombing missions in Syria.

Reports said at least one group, labelled as “Syrian opposition fighters”, who had been trained by the CIA, were hit in the attacks.

The New York Times reported a senior US official said at least one and maybe more opposition groups “secretly armed and trained by the CIA” were hit by Russia in the strikes.

thenewdaily.com.au/news/2015/10/01/russia-bombs-us-backed-forces-leaves-alone/

Turnbull and his knuckle dragging mob supported Russian bombings !!!

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Reply #7 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:16pm ____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 1:58pm: Russia bombing Syrian Groups attempting to remove Assad, that are not connected with ISIS. And Turnbull backs this. Nothing to do with ISIS. So who do you prefer take over if Assad gets toppled? ISIS or ISIS?
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Reply #8 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:24pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:16pm:

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 1:58pm:

Russia bombing Syrian Groups attempting to remove Assad, that are not connected with ISIS.

And Turnbull backs this.

Nothing to do with ISIS.

So who do you prefer take over if Assad gets toppled? ISIS or ISIS?

It's not just ISIS or ISIS. If you don't know what you are talking about, here is a hint

www.google.com.au

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Reply #9 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:31pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 1:42pm:

So you support ISIS then?

It is a complex issue, but as best as I can understand it there are three waring mobs. Assad's Government forces fighting Syrian Anti Government forces, and on top of that ISIS fighting whoever they are fighting. Might even be some Kurds in there.

The Ruskies have been given the nod by the West (including Australia) to bomb in Syria in the expectation the Russians will target only ISIS. However, the Russians have been a long term ally of Assad's Government, so today's speculation has been whether they are bombing ISIS or the Anti Assad Syrians.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Dumbarse Turnbull's Foreign Policy Reply #10 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:47pm Iraq was better off under Saddam and Syria is better off under Assad. Kabul should have been left to those who captured Kabul. They know how to deal with each other. Read the bottom line.
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Reply #11 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:57pm

issuevoter wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:47pm:

Iraq was better off under Saddam and Syria is better off under Assad. Kabul should have been left to those who captured Kabul. They know how to deal with each other. Read the bottom line.

The bottom line mirrors my sentiment. All you have to do is walk around the Canberra War Memorial and you will see the names of the same places coming up over and over. Arabia is for Arabs ~ let them fight over it as they have been for centuries. Sure, that means minorities will be persecuted. They leave and seek asylum elsewhere. The model of the West going in with guns to support a persecuted minority group does not work.

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Reply #12 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 3:11pm

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:24pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:16pm:

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 1:58pm:

Russia bombing Syrian Groups attempting to remove Assad, that are not connected with ISIS.

And Turnbull backs this.

Nothing to do with ISIS.

So who do you prefer take over if Assad gets toppled? ISIS or ISIS?

It's not just ISIS or ISIS. If you don't know what you are talking about, here is a hint

www.google.com.au

Oh, you mean you expect the 4 anti-Assad fighters trained by CIA to take over?

Here's a hint: the greens redundant rainbow feel good diplomacy doesn't work in this case. It really is either a madman who at least defends minorities vs madmen who don't discriminate against anyone when it comes to killing.

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Reply #13 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 3:44pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 3:11pm:

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:24pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:16pm:

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 1:58pm:

Russia bombing Syrian Groups attempting to remove Assad, that are not connected with ISIS.

And Turnbull backs this.

Nothing to do with ISIS.

So who do you prefer take over if Assad gets toppled? ISIS or ISIS?

It's not just ISIS or ISIS. If you don't know what you are talking about, here is a hint

www.google.com.au

Oh, you mean you expect the 4 anti-Assad fighters trained by CIA to take over?

Here's a hint: the greens redundant rainbow feel good diplomacy doesn't work in this case. It really is either a madman who at least defends minorities vs madmen who don't discriminate against anyone when it comes to killing.

I meant ... educate yourself ... and an add on ... stop putting your words into other poster's mouth.

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Reply #14 - Oct 1^st, 2015 at 3:56pm

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 3:44pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 3:11pm:

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:24pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 2:16pm:

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2015 at 1:58pm:

Russia bombing Syrian Groups attempting to remove Assad, that are not connected with ISIS.

And Turnbull backs this.

Nothing to do with ISIS.

So who do you prefer take over if Assad gets toppled? ISIS or ISIS?

It's not just ISIS or ISIS. If you don't know what you are talking about, here is a hint

www.google.com.au

Oh, you mean you expect the 4 anti-Assad fighters trained by CIA to take over?

Here's a hint: the greens redundant rainbow feel good diplomacy doesn't work in this case. It really is either a madman who at least defends minorities vs madmen who don't discriminate against anyone when it comes to killing.

I meant ... educate yourself ... and an add on ... stop putting your words into other poster's mouth.

I think if anyone needs to educate themselves on the issues relating to the middle east it is the pretend left wing that you represent. It is because of people like you, constantly criticising and never offering an adequate solution, that groups such as ISIS are end up thriving.

What is the Greens alternative? To block ears and eyes, and pretend everything will be okay?

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