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Reply #15 - Oct 3rd, 2015 at 3:35pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 3:22pm:
The Clinton camp put it about in 2008 that Obama's mother was heavily pregnant in Kenya and wasn't allowed to travel before giving birth. She gave birth and then flew to Hawaii where she registered the birth.
His dad was a Kenyan Muslim. Most of his family on his dad's side are in Kenya still, Muslim still. Anyway, not many Christian kids are called M'barak Huissein (although I am sure Brain knows many)


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President Obama released his birth certificate to the public last April. He said during a press briefing at the time that he was ‘puzzled at the degree to which this thing just keeps going on.’

He said: ‘We’ve had every official in Hawaii, Democrat and Republican, every news outlet that has investigated this, confirm that, yes, in fact, I was born in Hawaii, August 4, 1961, in Kapiolani Hospital.’

The president concluded his speech by acknowledging that some people - despite the evidence - woPresident Obama released his birth certificate to the public last April. He said during a press briefing at the time that he was ‘puzzled at the degree to which this thing just keeps going on.’

He said: ‘We’ve had every official in Hawaii, Democrat and Republican, every news outlet that has investigated this, confirm that, yes, in fact, I was born in Hawaii, August 4, 1961, in Kapiolani Hospital.’

The president concluded his speech by acknowledging that some people - despite the evidence - would not let go of the issue.

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Reply #16 - Oct 3rd, 2015 at 3:44pm
 
About time. It died back in 2013.
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Reply #17 - Oct 3rd, 2015 at 4:48pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 3:35pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 3:22pm:
The Clinton camp put it about in 2008 that Obama's mother was heavily pregnant in Kenya and wasn't allowed to travel before giving birth. She gave birth and then flew to Hawaii where she registered the birth.
His dad was a Kenyan Muslim. Most of his family on his dad's side are in Kenya still, Muslim still. Anyway, not many Christian kids are called M'barak Huissein (although I am sure Brain knows many)


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President Obama released his birth certificate to the public last April. He said during a press briefing at the time that he was ‘puzzled at the degree to which this thing just keeps going on.’

He said: ‘We’ve had every official in Hawaii, Democrat and Republican, every news outlet that has investigated this, confirm that, yes, in fact, I was born in Hawaii, August 4, 1961, in Kapiolani Hospital.’

The president concluded his speech by acknowledging that some people - despite the evidence - woPresident Obama released his birth certificate to the public last April. He said during a press briefing at the time that he was ‘puzzled at the degree to which this thing just keeps going on.’

He said: ‘We’ve had every official in Hawaii, Democrat and Republican, every news outlet that has investigated this, confirm that, yes, in fact, I was born in Hawaii, August 4, 1961, in Kapiolani Hospital.’

The president concluded his speech by acknowledging that some people - despite the evidence - would not let go of the issue.

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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/17/article-2146034-1325B465000005DC-501_6...

So, you one of those people, Soren, who won't let go of the issue?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

"Won't let go?"

The guy has a greater collection of birth certificates than you imagine, Brain.

http://www.thepowerhour.com/images/birth2.jpghttp://www.thepowerhour.com/images/...

http://theobamafile.com/_images/LucasSmith03.jpg

His Harvard yearbook entry stood UNCORRECTED until it needed to be ignored. As is the case with such blurbs, he would have supplied this text himself. AT THAT TIME, being Kenyan was to his advantage, so he used it , milked it.

I would not allow my Harvard yearbook entry to have a short entry like this with a glaring error about where I was born. But he left it uncorrected.He is either an opportunistic multiculti fraud, if it's untrue, or a liar, if true.
A bit like you. In either case, not a good choice.
But you will waive it though as the spineless, squishy and pompous apologist that you are.


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Reply #18 - Oct 3rd, 2015 at 6:01pm
 
He has satisfied the electoral authorities in the USA, Soren.  That is, in the end all that matters.  As much as you hate the man, that doesn't make him a Muslim nor foreign born.   Stop being so childish.
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Reply #19 - Oct 3rd, 2015 at 6:59pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 6:01pm:
He has satisfied the electoral authorities in the USA, Soren.  That is, in the end all that matters.  As much as you hate the man, that doesn't make him a Muslim nor foreign born.   Stop being so childish.


Oh for goodness sakes his old man was a mussey, he was born a mussey, he thinks the qur'an is beautiful and a holy book, he promotes homosexuality. He is no Christian. Far from it. He bows to muslims in the middle easturd countries and recites the Qu'ran. He is a mussey alright. He wanted to fight alongside alqueda in syria. He even manufactured a fake birth certificate for himself. He's a mussey alright.
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Reply #20 - Oct 3rd, 2015 at 7:11pm
 
ordinaryguy wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 6:59pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 6:01pm:
He has satisfied the electoral authorities in the USA, Soren.  That is, in the end all that matters.  As much as you hate the man, that doesn't make him a Muslim nor foreign born.   Stop being so childish.


Oh for goodness sakes his old man was a mussey, he was born a mussey, he thinks the qur'an is beautiful and a holy book, he promotes homosexuality. He is no Christian. Far from it. He bows to muslims in the middle easturd countries and recites the Qu'ran. He is a mussey alright. He wanted to fight alongside alqueda in syria. He even manufactured a fake birth certificate for himself. He's a mussey alright.


He has satisfied the electoral authorities in the USA, Soren.  That is, in the end all that matters.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #21 - Oct 4th, 2015 at 2:36am
 
And so another chapter in America's failed "War on Terror" has been written.

No doubt one can count on Obama to invoke the corporate-controlled to accuse Putin of waging a “campaign to simply try to destroy anybody who is disgusted and fed up with Mr. Assad’s behavior.”

So what's the reality here when it seems the forces on the ground that America is defending and which they are demanding that Russia stop bombing are dominated by the Al-Nusra Front, Al Qaeda’s Syrian affiliate.

Hmmmm....seems like America wants to set up a another puppet government like failed ones they are trying to do in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya. Putin wants to keep his only outside of Russia naval base in Syria at any cost. Oh, where will the chips fall?

Oh, and let's not forget America deemed Al-Nusra a "terrorist organization."The Obama Administration had zero problem adding him to the US State Department’s list of foreign terrorist claiming that Al-Nusra were prevalent in mass suicide bombings only later to find out that Al-Nusra was merely another name for "Al Qaeda" in Iraq.
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Reply #22 - Oct 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 2:26pm:
ordinaryguy wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 2:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 11:48am:
oh dear wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 9:58pm:
I wonder what Obama thinks of the Russians bombing CIA trained rebels fighting the Assad regime?

Obama has become that most grotesque of strategic players — an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend.


Or one who is just more cautious than his predecessors?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Nah he is an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend.
Basically an idiot with no ball sack.


You know, I can always identify you Matty through your frequent allusions to male anatomy.

Obama got the USA out of Afghanistan and Iraq.   He has refused to go into Libya and Syria and Nigeria.   He's a hell of a lot smarter than Shrub was.   What a shame you refuse to see that in your continued usage of allusions to male anatomy...   Roll Eyes



Until O'Bama's election the ME was contained. Now that he pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan, effectively decolonising them far too soon, chaos is back in the ME and it is now spreading to Africa and Europe. Iraq was handed to the shia majority who, with Iranian help, immediately set about antagonising the sunni minority.  He refused to intervene in Syria and Labia with distarous consequences.

The entire American establishment, the Clinton-Bush-O'Bama spectrum, is guilty of starting a war without being determined to win it. This is why America is now a an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend - it doesn't carry through either with its threats or with its offers of support.

The Muslims will not solve the ME problems. They are too busy fighting each other. It's time to install a few bloody dictators who will keep in check their populations who are clearly not ready for political compromise. With Russia asserting its interests, the Grand Game continues.

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Reply #23 - Oct 4th, 2015 at 3:59pm
 
Soren wrote on Oct 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 2:26pm:
ordinaryguy wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 2:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 11:48am:
oh dear wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 9:58pm:
I wonder what Obama thinks of the Russians bombing CIA trained rebels fighting the Assad regime?

Obama has become that most grotesque of strategic players — an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend.


Or one who is just more cautious than his predecessors?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Nah he is an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend.
Basically an idiot with no ball sack.


You know, I can always identify you Matty through your frequent allusions to male anatomy.

Obama got the USA out of Afghanistan and Iraq.   He has refused to go into Libya and Syria and Nigeria.   He's a hell of a lot smarter than Shrub was.   What a shame you refuse to see that in your continued usage of allusions to male anatomy...   Roll Eyes



Until O'Bama's election the ME was contained. Now that he pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan, effectively decolonising them far too soon, chaos is back in the ME and it is now spreading to Africa and Europe. Iraq was handed to the shia majority who, with Iranian help, immediately set about antagonising the sunni minority.  He refused to intervene in Syria and Labia with distarous consequences.

The entire American establishment, the Clinton-Bush-O'Bama spectrum, is guilty of starting a war without being determined to win it. This is why America is now a an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend - it doesn't carry through either with its threats or with its offers of support.

The Muslims will not solve the ME problems. They are too busy fighting each other. It's time to install a few bloody dictators who will keep in check their populations who are clearly not ready for political compromise. With Russia asserting its interests, the Grand Game continues.


I suspect you really do believe that, Soren, I really do.  So, where were you when the United States was "colonising" Iraq and Afghanistan?  Were you on the front line, actually putting into practice the beliefs you espouse so strongly?  No, you were sitting at home, in front of your computer, safe and sound, not having to face up to what you're proposing others do.  Intellectually you're foolish, physically, you're a coward.

When we see you in downtown Baghdad or Kabul, speaking your mind to the Iraqis and the Afghanis as well as shooting a few dead, of course, then I might have more time for you, Soren.  Until then, you're just an internet pundit who never has to put into action the words you espouse.  Unlike Obama, you're not unloading the dead bodies as they are returned to the United States every weekend.  You're not talking to the families of the dead and wounded, week in, week out.  You're not facing up to the consequences of a policy which he had inherited (and ended) from his foolish predecessor who went into Afghanistan and Iraq, expecting a European style liberation party and instead ended up with tens hundreds of dead American soldiers/marines/airmen/sailors.

Instead we see you moaning that Obama is secretly a Muslim or wasn't even born in the USA and so can't fulfil his obligations under the US Constitution to qualify for the office that he was elected to by the American people.   You're cheap and you're foolish, Soren.    You seek to score cheap points for the audience of Islamophobes who run 'round like chooks with their heads cut off whenever the word "Muslim" or "Islam" is mentioned in a conversation.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #24 - Oct 4th, 2015 at 4:53pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 2:26pm:
ordinaryguy wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 2:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 11:48am:
oh dear wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 9:58pm:
I wonder what Obama thinks of the Russians bombing CIA trained rebels fighting the Assad regime?

Obama has become that most grotesque of strategic players — an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend.


Or one who is just more cautious than his predecessors?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Nah he is an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend.
Basically an idiot with no ball sack.


You know, I can always identify you Matty through your frequent allusions to male anatomy.

Obama got the USA out of Afghanistan and Iraq.   He has refused to go into Libya and Syria and Nigeria.   He's a hell of a lot smarter than Shrub was.   What a shame you refuse to see that in your continued usage of allusions to male anatomy...   Roll Eyes



Until O'Bama's election the ME was contained. Now that he pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan, effectively decolonising them far too soon, chaos is back in the ME and it is now spreading to Africa and Europe. Iraq was handed to the shia majority who, with Iranian help, immediately set about antagonising the sunni minority.  He refused to intervene in Syria and Labia with distarous consequences.

The entire American establishment, the Clinton-Bush-O'Bama spectrum, is guilty of starting a war without being determined to win it. This is why America is now a an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend - it doesn't carry through either with its threats or with its offers of support.

The Muslims will not solve the ME problems. They are too busy fighting each other. It's time to install a few bloody dictators who will keep in check their populations who are clearly not ready for political compromise. With Russia asserting its interests, the Grand Game continues.


I suspect you really do believe that, Soren, I really do.  So, where were you when the United States was "colonising" Iraq and Afghanistan?  Were you on the front line, actually putting into practice the beliefs you espouse so strongly?  No, you were sitting at home, in front of your computer, safe and sound, not having to face up to what you're proposing others do.  Intellectually you're foolish, physically, you're a coward.

When we see you in downtown Baghdad or Kabul, speaking your mind to the Iraqis and the Afghanis as well as shooting a few dead, of course, then I might have more time for you, Soren.  Until then, you're just an internet pundit who never has to put into action the words you espouse.  Unlike Obama, you're not unloading the dead bodies as they are returned to the United States every weekend.  You're not talking to the families of the dead and wounded, week in, week out.  You're not facing up to the consequences of a policy which he had inherited (and ended) from his foolish predecessor who went into Afghanistan and Iraq, expecting a European style liberation party and instead ended up with tens hundreds of dead American soldiers/marines/airmen/sailors.

Instead we see you moaning that Obama is secretly a Muslim or wasn't even born in the USA and so can't fulfil his obligations under the US Constitution to qualify for the office that he was elected to by the American people.   You're cheap and you're foolish, Soren.    You seek to score cheap points for the audience of Islamophobes who run 'round like chooks with their heads cut off whenever the word "Muslim" or "Islam" is mentioned in a conversation.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


That's funny! That's REALLY funny!

Somewhere recently on this forum you said we should not base our actions on what happened 1400 years ago.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

This, from you, who constantly brings up the Crusades when excusing Islamic atrocities.

One supposes, then, that one should not base their opinions or reactions on historical precedents? And you a self-proclaimed 'historian'?

Tell me, Brian, was Obama elected by the 'people'? Or by the vote counted? America is not like this country, Brian, as you know. Voting is optional.

And it's starting to look look like if America won't face the global Islamic threat (disguised how it is), then Putin will.

It will be interesting to see how the US postures on the world stage if they ever have the idiocy to elect another Clinton, or re-elect Osama.

ISIS is merely Islam armed.

There are some who recognise that.

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Reply #25 - Oct 4th, 2015 at 5:45pm
 
Lionel Edriess wrote on Oct 4th, 2015 at 4:53pm:
That's funny! That's REALLY funny!

Somewhere recently on this forum you said we should not base our actions on what happened 1400 years ago.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

This, from you, who constantly brings up the Crusades when excusing Islamic atrocities.


I have NEVER, EVER, excused any atrocities, Lionel.   I have mentioned the Crusades in attempting to explain to people why those atrocities might have occurred.   You appear to mistake explanation for excuse, why?    Roll Eyes

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One supposes, then, that one should not base their opinions or reactions on historical precedents? And you a self-proclaimed 'historian'?


No, one should understand the historical precedents which have brought about the present condition, Lionel.   Unfortunately, all too often critics of Islam and Muslims in particular believe that the events of today are not formulated in the events of yesteryear for some obscure reason.

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Tell me, Brian, was Obama elected by the 'people'? Or by the vote counted? America is not like this country, Brian, as you know. Voting is optional.


He was elected by the voters who cared to partake in the election, Lionel.   As much as that appears to gall you, so was Shrug and Clinton and Bush Senior, and, and, and... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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And it's starting to look look like if America won't face the global Islamic threat (disguised how it is), then Putin will.


Putin appears quite happy to back a MUSLIM leader in Bashr Al'asad, Lionel.   Isn't he a member of this supposed "global Islamic threat"?    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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It will be interesting to see how the US postures on the world stage if they ever have the idiocy to elect another Clinton, or re-elect Osama.


Obama cannot be re-elected under the US Constitutional limits on the number of terms a US President can serve, Lionel.  Another Clinton?  A possibility but she has more steel I suspect than most on the right are willing to credit her with...   Roll Eyes

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ISIS is merely Islam armed.

There are some who recognise that.


Then they need to take their Islamophobic blinkers off...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Oct 4th, 2015 at 8:32pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 4th, 2015 at 3:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 2:26pm:
ordinaryguy wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 2:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 3rd, 2015 at 11:48am:
oh dear wrote on Oct 2nd, 2015 at 9:58pm:
I wonder what Obama thinks of the Russians bombing CIA trained rebels fighting the Assad regime?

Obama has become that most grotesque of strategic players — an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend.


Or one who is just more cautious than his predecessors?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Nah he is an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend.
Basically an idiot with no ball sack.


You know, I can always identify you Matty through your frequent allusions to male anatomy.

Obama got the USA out of Afghanistan and Iraq.   He has refused to go into Libya and Syria and Nigeria.   He's a hell of a lot smarter than Shrub was.   What a shame you refuse to see that in your continued usage of allusions to male anatomy...   Roll Eyes



Until O'Bama's election the ME was contained. Now that he pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan, effectively decolonising them far too soon, chaos is back in the ME and it is now spreading to Africa and Europe. Iraq was handed to the shia majority who, with Iranian help, immediately set about antagonising the sunni minority.  He refused to intervene in Syria and Labia with distarous consequences.

The entire American establishment, the Clinton-Bush-O'Bama spectrum, is guilty of starting a war without being determined to win it. This is why America is now a an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend - it doesn't carry through either with its threats or with its offers of support.

The Muslims will not solve the ME problems. They are too busy fighting each other. It's time to install a few bloody dictators who will keep in check their populations who are clearly not ready for political compromise. With Russia asserting its interests, the Grand Game continues.


I suspect you really do believe that, Soren, I really do.  So, where were you when the United States was "colonising" Iraq and Afghanistan?  Were you on the front line, actually putting into practice the beliefs you espouse so strongly?  No, you were sitting at home, in front of your computer, safe and sound, not having to face up to what you're proposing others do.  Intellectually you're foolish, physically, you're a coward.



I was all for the re-colonisation of Iraq and Afghanistan with a view to knock some sense into them.

Remember, the 90s was the decade when we all believed that humanity aspires to the same things. So I too though that if only we could help the Arabs, who are really not that different from us, all would be well.

Like so many universalists, I too have been mugged by reality.  I realised that the Third World, whether Arab or otherwise, is a poo'ole because the people and their beliefs have made these countries poo'oles.  And like the proverb says, you can lead a horse to water but can't make it think - or as Dorothy Parker improved on it, you can take a whore to culture but can't make her think, so with the third world and the Muslims Arabs especially - you can give them the opportunity to negotiate and work through compromises peacefully but they will not take it because they don't think like us.
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Soren wrote on Oct 4th, 2015 at 8:32pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
I suspect you really do believe that, Soren, I really do.  So, where were you when the United States was "colonising" Iraq and Afghanistan?  Were you on the front line, actually putting into practice the beliefs you espouse so strongly?  No, you were sitting at home, in front of your computer, safe and sound, not having to face up to what you're proposing others do.  Intellectually you're foolish, physically, you're a coward.


I was all for the re-colonisation of Iraq and Afghanistan with a view to knock some sense into them.


And who was going to do the "knocking", Soren?  You or your shills the Americans their allies (including the ADF)?  Of course it wouldn't be you, sitting behind your computer in your nice, safe house, now was it, Soren?   Roll Eyes

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Remember, the 90s was the decade when we all believed that humanity aspires to the same things. So I too though that if only we could help the Arabs, who are really not that different from us, all would be well.

Like so many universalists, I too have been mugged by reality.  I realised that the Third World, whether Arab or otherwise, is a poo'ole because the people and their beliefs have made these countries poo'oles.  And like the proverb says, you can lead a horse to water but can't make it think - or as Dorothy Parker improved on it, you can take a whore to culture but can't make her think, so with the third world and the Muslims Arabs especially - you can give them the opportunity to negotiate and work through compromises peacefully but they will not take it because they don't think like us.


So, safe and sound behind your computer you came to that conclusion, reading all those other Islamophobic pundits, did you, Soren?

Most cultures (not all, I'm willing to admit) aspire to the same things, more or less, Soren.  Arab, Persian, North African, sub-saharan African, South, South-east Asian, they all aspire to the same set of ideals as does the West and East, North and South, Soren.   Their means of achieving them might be different, but they aren't that different.   That you look at the differences rather than the similarities suggests what about your attitudes?  Mmmm?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #29 - Oct 5th, 2015 at 2:42am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 4th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
The entire American establishment, the Clinton-Bush-O'Bama spectrum, is guilty of starting a war without being determined to win it. This is why America is now a an impotent enemy and a dangerous friend - it doesn't carry through either with its threats or with its offers of support.



Oh, you naive misled Aussie. America doesn't start wars it can't finish. Those days are long over. America starts wars it can profit from. That is the true sickness of modern American culture.
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