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Reply #45 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 11:54pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 11:47pm:
Please don’t mention liberal and democratic, Brain. The old boy does have the right to not be offended, you know.



Islamic ways of living and doing things bring zero improvement to the West.


Thoughts? - if that's not too much to ask you, PB. (we know it is but let's pretend it isn't).


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Reply #46 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 11:55pm
 
Yes, old chap, but the homos is to die for, no?
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Reply #47 - Oct 9th, 2015 at 12:19am
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 11:55pm:
Yes, old chap, but the homos is to die for, no?

Thank you moron, it was too much to ask but at least you can't say I wasn't tolerant of your idiocy.

Liberalism in practice.

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Reply #48 - Oct 9th, 2015 at 12:37am
 
Soren wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 11:50pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 10:16pm:
Soren wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 8:48pm:
I do not care what they do, what means they choose - as long as they stay where they are. If they are not interested in adopting Western means, values, institutions, fine. But then stay the hell out of the West.


Yet, the West values freedom and tolerates changes, Soren.   Well, most of the West which is liberal and democratic, unlike your version which is narrow and authoritarian...   Roll Eyes

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To repeat - Islamic ways of living and doing things bring zero improvement to the West.


Really?  Yet I believe and so do most other people, otherwise, Soren.  Did you being any improvement to Australia when you migrated?  I doubt it.  You brought your narrow-minded, closed minded ways which only reinforced those views downunder.   Roll Eyes

Thank goodness you are of the past, Soren, thank goodness!   Cool

Don't talk about me, Brain.


Why ever not, Soren?  You are the best counter-argument I have to everything you claim!   Roll Eyes

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The point is - Islam brings no improvement to the West. Don't deflect to me, an individual.
Address the point I made - highlighted for you.


Who ever said it had to bring anything, other than itself to the West, Soren?  As I pointed out, what did you bring with yourself which "improved Australia"?  Nothing, zilch, nada.  Would I have wanted you to bring something with you?  Nope.  Your mere presence is sufficient to show us a better way is possible, Soren!   Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #49 - Oct 9th, 2015 at 10:07am
 
Soren wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 11:54pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 11:47pm:
Please don’t mention liberal and democratic, Brain. The old boy does have the right to not be offended, you know.



Islamic ways of living and doing things bring zero improvement to the West.


Thoughts? - if that's not too much to ask you, PB. (we know it is but let's pretend it isn't).




Well, dear boy, there are a few, but here's mine. Giving alms to the poor is one of Islam's pillars. Here's what the evil Muselman says about it:

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Firstly, charity in Islam is much broader than giving money to the poor, and can be exercised just as well even where there is no poverty, as shown above. Secondly, giving charity, or the doing of any good to someone, must be done as a duty, not to degrade them or to ask for thanks. The Holy Quran tells us:


"A kind word with forgiveness is better than charity followed by injury.. . . O you who believe, make not your charity worthless by reproach and injury, like him who spends his wealth to be seen by people. . ." (2:263-264)


Thirdly, charity should be given solely out of love for God, out of the desire to do good to His creation, as the Quran says about the righteous:


"They give food, out of love for Him (Allah), to the poor, the orphan, and the slave, saying: We feed you only for Allah's pleasure - we desire from you neither reward nor thanks." (76:8,9)
http://www.muslim.org/islam/int-is44.htm

This doesn't apply to your good self, dear boy. You gave at the office, no?
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Reply #50 - Oct 9th, 2015 at 6:16pm
 
In light of the above.

muslims have had untold $billions at their disposal for the last 100 or so years (oil).

Why aren't all muslims living in Utopia?

Why right now 2015, are muslims frothing at the mouth demanding that the accursed infidel provide millions of them with security and shelter?

Why are muslims a world wide security threat?

When are muslims going to have the guts to accept the fact, islam has got them nowhere, they are the cause of their own problems?
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Reply #51 - Oct 9th, 2015 at 7:59pm
 
All good questions, Moses. Do you believe in giving charity out of love for God?

Do you believe a kind word in forgiveness is better than charity followed by reproach and injury?

Do you believe charity should be given for its own end, and not for thanks or praise or reward?

Just say if you don’t. We’re all friends here.
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Reply #52 - Oct 9th, 2015 at 8:11pm
 
moses wrote on Oct 9th, 2015 at 6:16pm:
In light of the above.

muslims have had untold $billions at their disposal for the last 100 or so years (oil).

Why aren't all muslims living in Utopia?


They are statistically mentally slow.

moses wrote on Oct 9th, 2015 at 6:16pm:
Why right now 2015, are muslims frothing at the mouth demanding that the accursed infidel provide millions of them with security and shelter?


Yeah its a bit of a cack aye. Why would you give em help if they cant even turn that into helping themselves. Then they bite the so called hand that feeds them.

moses wrote on Oct 9th, 2015 at 6:16pm:
Why are muslims a world wide security threat?


The Qur'an and mentally slow individuals.

moses wrote on Oct 9th, 2015 at 6:16pm:
When are muslims going to have the guts to accept the fact, islam has got them nowhere, they are the cause of their own problems?


Never
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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years  after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin Grin Grin Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.
 
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Reply #53 - Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:36pm
 
Karnal wrote: Reply #51 - Yesterday at 7:59pm:

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All good questions, Moses. Do you believe in giving charity out of love for God?

Do you believe a kind word in forgiveness is better than charity followed by reproach and injury?

Do you believe charity should be given for its own end, and not for thanks or praise or reward?

Just say if you don’t. We’re all friends here.


Why are you asking me?

The subject matter is:

The muslim and his / her inability to live in peace with anyone.

His / her self induced fanaticism, resulting in the most evil and inhumane human right atrocities being committed in the name of a satanic allah.

His / her total inability to create a civilized life for themselves, always demanding infidels give them security and shelter from their own evil kind.

His / her arriving in an infidels land, only to carry on their filth and perversion resulting in them still actively supporting and carrying out the said human rights atrocities.

The list goes on muslims have a lot of questions to answer.

Now since you desperately are trying to create a smoke screen for muslim atrocities and inability to live in a civilized and decent manner.

My personal opinion of charity is that it is absolutely a gifted grant for genuine people who are truly in need.

I also recognize there are a lot of people who are hypocrites and deceitful users who defraud our charities and welfare, no I don't believe said cheaters deserve anything (they are dishonestly stealing from those in genuine need).

Now to get back to the subject at hand I reiterate:

muslims have had untold $billions at their disposal for the last 100 or so years (oil).

Why aren't all muslims living in Utopia?

Why right now 2015, are muslims frothing at the mouth demanding that the accursed infidel provide millions of them with security and shelter?

Why are muslims a world wide security threat?

When are muslims going to have the guts to accept the fact, islam has got them nowhere, they are the cause of their own problems?



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Reply #54 - Oct 10th, 2015 at 5:40pm
 
moses wrote on Oct 10th, 2015 at 3:36pm:
Karnal wrote: Reply #51 - Yesterday at 7:59pm:

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All good questions, Moses. Do you believe in giving charity out of love for God?

Do you believe a kind word in forgiveness is better than charity followed by reproach and injury?

Do you believe charity should be given for its own end, and not for thanks or praise or reward?

Just say if you don’t. We’re all friends here.


Why are you asking me?



Because I'm curious. You're a Christian, no? I'm sure you're read the parable about the good Samaritan.

I'm a yogi. We have a very similar take on service and charity in our tradition.

So there you have it. Muslims, Christians, yogis. We all believe a very similar thing. Be nice to others, give to those who need it, share kind words and deeds. I'm not sure what the old boy thinks - he won't say - but I think these are useful additions to any human society.

What do you think, Moses?
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Reply #55 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 10:46am
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 9th, 2015 at 7:59pm:
All good questions, Moses. Do you believe in giving charity out of love for God?

Charities were established in the West long before Muslim migration (partly because there is nothing Muslim about charity). You cannot treat Muslim charity as an improvement on the West. Any other suggestions, PB?

Islamic ways of living and doing things bring zero improvement to the West - refute it if you can.

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Reply #56 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 10:52am
 
Karnal wrote Reply #54 - Yesterday at 5:40pm

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Because I'm curious. You're a Christian, no? I'm sure you're read the parable about the good Samaritan.

I'm a yogi. We have a very similar take on service and charity in our tradition.

So there you have it. Muslims, Christians, yogis. We all believe a very similar thing. Be nice to others, give to those who need it, share kind words and deeds. I'm not sure what the old boy thinks - he won't say - but I think these are useful additions to any human society.

What do you think, Moses?


What do I think?

I think muslims and their apologists are a bunch of lying hypocrites.

Why has the muslim version of sharing and kind deeds resulted in an islamic society of unstable blood crazed fanatics?

Why are muslims killing other muslims?

Why are muslims killing Christians?

Why are muslims killing Buddhists?

Why can't muslims live in peace with anyone including their own kind?

Why are muslims a world wide terror threat?

Why haven't muslims used the $trillions of oil money to make islamic society the utopia of the world, instead of the inbred, low I.Q., squalor and poverty ridden cesspits they are?

Why are millions of muslims demanding that the hated infidels feed and shelter them, while they carry on their fanaticism inspired depravities?

Why do muslims practice a satanic ritual (islam) which unequivocally states that the islamic killer is the highest grade of muslim  there is (assured a place in paradise surrounded by houris with big tits)?

muslims and their apologists have absolutely no right to criticize any non muslim entity, clean their own backyard first. 
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Reply #57 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:12am
 
You already said all that, Moses. I asked what you thought of charity.
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Reply #58 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:23am
 
Selective reading Karnal?

Reply #53 - Yesterday at 3:36pm I wrote:

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My personal opinion of charity is that it is absolutely a gifted grant for genuine people who are truly in need.

I also recognize there are a lot of people who are hypocrites and deceitful users who defraud our charities and welfare, no I don't believe said cheaters deserve anything (they are dishonestly stealing from those in genuine need).


Now why are the muzzies what they are? 
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Reply #59 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:54am
 
moses wrote on Oct 11th, 2015 at 11:23am:
Selective reading Karnal?

Reply #53 - Yesterday at 3:36pm I wrote:

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My personal opinion of charity is that it is absolutely a gifted grant for genuine people who are truly in need.

I also recognize there are a lot of people who are hypocrites and deceitful users who defraud our charities and welfare, no I don't believe said cheaters deserve anything (they are dishonestly stealing from those in genuine need).


Now why are the muzzies what they are? 


Thanks, Moses. It would appear that you disagree with my quotes on charity. You argue here that charity is conditional, a harsh word is preferable, and charity is not for God’s sake, but a form of divination between the righteous and the deceitful.

No worries.

I’ve been assisted by Muslims who were much poorer than me. I was put up in a house once by strangers in India when I missed my train. They were Kashmiris, their son found me at the station. I could easily have got a hotel room - I wanted to. But they offered me a meal and a bed and wanted nothing for it. Someone, of course, was required to sleep on the floor.

Who cheated who? I must make 30 times that family’s income. But charity, remember, is for God. When a stranger comes to your house, treat them as God. That family didn’t mark me as a rich foreigner out to rip them off. They saw me as someone to give freely to, in their own way.

And this, if you’re reading, old boy, is the difference between giving at the office and giving charity to God. It’s a value few of us have in our culture, but it’s the social glue in many places I’ve been.
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