Aussie wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 2:54pm:

For starters, they hatched the little monster.  His sister has pushed off Syria already. Another relative was on the terrorist watch list.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 3:09pm:



He took Islam more seriously than the others.

So did his family, apparently - Sister Bint went to Syria the day before, it seems. I bet anything she is a hijabi.

I am also curious how the family got here from Iran. Refugees, no doubt, probably illegal boaties.

The New South Wales police civilian employee shot dead by a radicalised youth was a "gentle man", the police commissioner has said.

A 15-year-old of Iraq-Kurdish background killed long-time police employee Curtis Cheng as he was leaving headquarters at Parramatta in Sydney's west around 4:30pm on Friday.

The offender then fired several more shots at officers as they emerged from the building to respond to the incident.

He was killed when the officers returned fire.


Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said Mr Cheng, 58, was a 17-year veteran of the police force's finance department where he worked as an accountant.

"He was a much-loved man, [he had] been with us a long time. I don't think I've ever heard anyone have a bad word about Curtis and he will be missed," he said.

"Curtis was admired and respected by his colleagues. He was a gentle man in every sense.

"What has occurred is shocking and it is a very sad time for those who worked closely with him and all our employees."

A police source said the victim was a Buddhist and of Hong Kong-Chinese background.

"You won't find anyone in the cops who has a bad word to say about him," the source said.

"He just walked out the door, Friday afternoon, on his way going home to his wife and kids. Shot dead. It's just horrible."

Aussie wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 2:29pm:


And I respect your position and can quite understand how difficult it must be to move away from an altruistic view of mankind in general.

We should always be careful to separate the individual from the mass, while also bearing in mind the fact that modern countries have evolved from people seeking shelter from 'them', the protection of the majority of citizens from the predations of 'outsiders'.

It's why we have laws - to protect the productive (the 'general' populace), the furtherance of the 'greater good'.

Perhaps we should all take a closer look at the evolution of society in the long term, to consider how mankind moved from a clan society to a tribal society, from a collection of tribes to a people, from a people to a nation, from a nation to an empire.

If one needs an example of a nation, England is a classic. An isolated rock that was once home to the greatest empire in history. Its best defense for millennia was its island position, in later times its most potent weapon its navy.

We also need to consider populations, technologies and religious beliefs. The Chinese did not build that wall to keep the rabbits out, despite what anyone says. They built it to keep the Mongols out, the second biggest empire in history - one not contained or restrained by sea.

The Mongols, bless their little cotton socks, also put paid to the Islamic empire in its earlier days. This was a long time after the Islamists been expelled from Europe by Martel.

Moving away from empires, wars and historical nation-hoods, what we are now facing is an unparalleled human migration brought about by the results of ongoing conflicts in other nations.

It would appear that we have learnt nothing from the border squabbles in the early 20th century that produced 120 million dead and was only really finished by atomics to stop yet another empire expansion.

To conclude:

The civilized world faces yet another effort by the zealots of Islam to re-establish the caliphate, this time global in scope, aided by modern technology, employing terrorism as a weapon, utilising guerilla warfare and assisted by Western concerns for refugee welfare.

I have no intention of being disrespectful, but the Islamic doctrine is NOT one of peace and altruism, it is a credo for global domination - one that has been manufactured from perverted interpretations of its texts.

The nuclear threat offered to the world is very real - the societal effects on host nations are becoming more obvious.

From an Australian perspective, all I want is 'me mates'.

'Don't bite the hand that feeds you' is an apt descriptor.

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I agree with all of that. 

The distinction seems to be that none of that lot seem remotely interested in creating problems within domestic Australia.  I cannot say the same for Muslims,  and ~ that Gandalf hesitated and then finally did not answer ~ instead, he gave a wimp out, has had its inevitable impact on me, given he presents as a moderate.

Aussie wrote on Oct 4^th, 2015 at 2:29pm:




Geezuz christ Aussie, you feelin alright?, I thought you'd be the first to get that impression, not the last, with you hanging around all those mussie taxi drivers and all.