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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Parramatta gunman was a 15 y/o terrorist Reply #510 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:50pm Soren wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:11pm: easel wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 4:39pm: Islam is a religion. Not a hostile ideology. That is all. Islam is a hostile religious ideology. By its OWN declaration. That is all. Some statements are axiomatic. That's one such statement.
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Reply #511 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:52pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:39pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:36pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 12:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:10am:

"The Northern Territory has the highest homicide rate in Australia"

http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/the-northern-territory-has-the-highest-hom...

ABS satistics show the Aborigines have a 5-6 times higher homicide rate than white man.

Do they also have a 5-6 times higher homicide rate than Muslims in Australia?

Wikipedia- Muslims are over-represented in jails in New South Wales, at 9% to 10% of the prison population, compared to less than 3% within the NSW population.[138]

Where is the link to that? I call bullshit on the basis that there are no stats kept on how many Presbyterians, Methodists, Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists or Muslims are in prison.

Yes there is. Go look it up yourself.

Are you so uncivil that you cannot provide the link?

Get off you own ass and look it up yourself. One google will do it. DUH.

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Reply #512 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:39pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:36pm:

double plus good wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 12:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 12:22pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:10am:

"The Northern Territory has the highest homicide rate in Australia"

http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/the-northern-territory-has-the-highest-hom...

ABS satistics show the Aborigines have a 5-6 times higher homicide rate than white man.

Do they also have a 5-6 times higher homicide rate than Muslims in Australia?

Wikipedia- Muslims are over-represented in jails in New South Wales, at 9% to 10% of the prison population, compared to less than 3% within the NSW population.[138]

Where is the link to that? I call bullshit on the basis that there are no stats kept on how many Presbyterians, Methodists, Catholics, Hindus, Buddhists or Muslims are in prison.

Yes there is. Go look it up yourself.

White flag accepted.

Close your cheeks next time you sit on your white flag then.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38861 Gender:	Re: Parramatta gunman was a 15 y/o terrorist Reply #513 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:09pm Quote: Close your cheeks next time you sit on your white flag then. So you made it all up. Okay.
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Reply #514 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:21pm

It was admirable of Scipione to announce, without hesitation as soon as the facts came to hand, that the attack was political terrorism. It leaves no doubt as to the young guy's motivation

But why didn't the brother of this 15 y/o ring the police to report something suspicious ? he was quick enough to call the police after the attack. The brother could have prevented that senseless crime just by making a phone call

A news report has it that the 15 y/o got the gun from someone in the mosque. So another task for the police would be to take their shoes off and check through these mosques a few times a day

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Reply #515 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:25pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:21pm:

It was admirable of Scipione to announce, without hesitation as soon as the facts came to hand, that the attack was political terrorism. It leaves no doubt as to the young guy's motivation

But why didn't the brother of this 15 y/o ring the police to report something suspicious ? he was quick enough to call the police after the attack. The brother could have prevented that senseless crime just by making a phone call

A news report has it that the 15 y/o got the gun from someone in the mosque. So another task for the police would be to take their shoes off and check through these mosques a few times a day

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Reply #516 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:29pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:21pm:

It was admirable of Scipione to announce, without hesitation as soon as the facts came to hand, that the attack was political terrorism. It leaves no doubt as to the young guy's motivation

But why didn't the brother of this 15 y/o ring the police to report something suspicious ? he was quick enough to call the police after the attack. The brother could have prevented that senseless crime just by making a phone call

A news report has it that the 15 y/o got the gun from someone in the mosque. So another task for the police would be to take their shoes off and check through these mosques a few times a day

They need to investigate this incident thoroughly or not at all.

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ordinaryguy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 625 Gender:	Re: Parramatta gunman was a 15 y/o terrorist Reply #517 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:31pm Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:09pm: Quote: Close your cheeks next time you sit on your white flag then. So you made it all up. Okay. Are you alright mate ?
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38861 Gender:	Re: Parramatta gunman was a 15 y/o terrorist Reply #518 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:35pm Quote: Are you alright mate ? I am no-one's mate, with some exceptions. But, of course I am 'alright.' I simply want the link which supports your allegations.
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Reply #519 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:38pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:35pm:

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Are you alright mate ?

I am no-one's mate, with some exceptions. But, of course I am 'alright.' I simply want the link which supports your allegations.

You are right you will NEVER be my MATE. Nor will you EVER be a real Aussie.

I told you to find it yourself because you are an ignoramus. I suggest if you are not comfortable with using the internet then get off it. I don't give a toss if you believe me or not. You are clearly here just to troll and not use your abilities to learn.

You clearly have some mental issue hence my question.

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Reply #520 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:55pm

ordinaryguy wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:35pm:

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Are you alright mate ?

I am no-one's mate, with some exceptions. But, of course I am 'alright.' I simply want the link which supports your allegations.

You are right you will NEVER be my MATE. Nor will you EVER be a real Aussie.

I told you to find it yourself because you are an ignoramus. I suggest if you are not comfortable with using the internet then get off it. I don't give a toss if you believe me or not. You are clearly here just to troll and not use your abilities to learn.

You clearly have some mental issue hence my question.

Why waste all this time and effort on one such as you describe as me? Just post the link. It would take much less time, if it exists.

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Reply #521 - Oct 7^th, 2015 at 11:14pm

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:55pm:

ordinaryguy wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 10:35pm:

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Are you alright mate ?

I am no-one's mate, with some exceptions. But, of course I am 'alright.' I simply want the link which supports your allegations.

You are right you will NEVER be my MATE. Nor will you EVER be a real Aussie.

I told you to find it yourself because you are an ignoramus. I suggest if you are not comfortable with using the internet then get off it. I don't give a toss if you believe me or not. You are clearly here just to troll and not use your abilities to learn.

You clearly have some mental issue hence my question.

Why waste all this time and effort on one such as you describe as me? Just post the link. It would take much less time, if it exists.

Go find it yourself, is that too hard to understand rather than going to all the trouble to sook cry biatch and moan like a lesbian transgender school girl with no titties or girfriend.

Try and be a man instead of a spineless jellyfish and at least one person here may actually take you serious.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139623 Gender:	Re: Parramatta gunman was a 15 y/o terrorist Reply #522 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 7:10am Quote: a lesbian transgender school girl with no titties or girfriend. Projecting, again?
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Reply #523 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 8:11am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:22pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 4:24pm:

I don't stick up for any murderers.

You, on the other hand, constantly make excuses for them.

Apologist.

So what, if not Islam, motivated the kid in your view, gweg?

Who said that Islam wasn't the motivator?

My point is, I don't present that motivation as an excuse - you do.

You're an apologist - I'm not.

Explain why the recognition of motivation is thereby an excuse, thicko.

In law, the motivations for your actions are crucial for determining guilt. Motivation is the difference between manslaughter and murder, for example.
If I identify your motivation for premeditated murder being greed, how is that an excuse, you pernickety git?

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Reply #524 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 10:06am

Soren wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 8:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 9:22pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 7^th, 2015 at 4:24pm:

I don't stick up for any murderers.

You, on the other hand, constantly make excuses for them.

Apologist.

So what, if not Islam, motivated the kid in your view, gweg?

Who said that Islam wasn't the motivator?

My point is, I don't present that motivation as an excuse - you do.

You're an apologist - I'm not.

Explain why the recognition of motivation is thereby an excuse, thicko.

In law, the motivations for your actions are crucial for determining guilt. Motivation is the difference between manslaughter and murder, for example.
If I identify your motivation for premeditated murder being greed, how is that an excuse, you pernickety git?

You would be giving an explanation as to why I committed the murder. i.e an excuse.

"excuse: a reason or explanation given to justify a fault or offence."

"Peccer killed the guy because he was greedy, and he wanted his money".

Similarly, by apportioning blame to Islam for certain murders you are offering an explanation (excuse) for that criminal act.

You're an apologist. I'm not.

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