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Reply #90 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 7:41pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 7:32pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 6:15pm:


When trying to make any point it is always important to use statistics out of context so as to look credible while in fact lying. Private school funding has grown a lot faster than public school funding. That's true. Shock! Horror! What of course is missing is the fact that private school attendances are growing far faster than public schools. We call this an 'inconvenient truth'.


you could always provide proof that funding private schools saves money?
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Reply #91 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 7:50pm
 

Dnarever wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 6:26pm:
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Yes I would highly recommend one or the other.


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Reply #93 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 8:01pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 7:32pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 6:15pm:


When trying to make any point it is always important to use statistics out of context so as to look credible while in fact lying. Private school funding has grown a lot faster than public school funding. That's true. Shock! Horror! What of course is missing is the fact that private school attendances are growing far faster than public schools. We call this an 'inconvenient truth'.
And the relevance of that is what? It certainly says nothing about the quality of education that students are getting at private schools compared to public schools and it certainly doesn't justify diverting public education funds to private schools.  If you want to send your kids to private schools fine but you should pay for it instead of leeching off the taxpayer to fund your elitism.
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Reply #94 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 10:05pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 7:32pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 6:15pm:


When trying to make any point it is always important to use statistics out of context so as to look credible while in fact lying. Private school funding has grown a lot faster than public school funding. That's true. Shock! Horror! What of course is missing is the fact that private school attendances are growing far faster than public schools. We call this an 'inconvenient truth'.


Where was I lying???

Where is your supporting evidence for your claim???

When trying to make any point it is always important to tell the truth to be credible!!!

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Reply #95 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 6:44am
 
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 8:01pm:
mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 7:32pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 6:15pm:


When trying to make any point it is always important to use statistics out of context so as to look credible while in fact lying. Private school funding has grown a lot faster than public school funding. That's true. Shock! Horror! What of course is missing is the fact that private school attendances are growing far faster than public schools. We call this an 'inconvenient truth'.
And the relevance of that is what? It certainly says nothing about the quality of education that students are getting at private schools compared to public schools and it certainly doesn't justify diverting public education funds to private schools.  If you want to send your kids to private schools fine but you should pay for it instead of leeching off the taxpayer to fund your elitism.



yawn,  since the government spends LESS per student in the private sector then the public sector, it is simply impossible to say that private schools are leeching off taxpayers,  they are , in fact, saving taxpayers a fortune as each child in a private school costs the taxpayer LESS then if they were in a public school.
Can the leftards acknowledge this as a fact please.

after acknowledging this, anyone who again says that private school are a drain on the education system really reveals themselves as someone who did not go to a private or public school , but instead went to a special school.

this means you spartacus and john smith, now admit the error in your remedial maths and then we can move forward  Wink
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Reply #96 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:00am
 
I quite liked the analogy in one of Phils links ....

the govt. should subsidise my car expenses because it's cheaper than having to provide me with public transport.

Scoot, you are doing the same crap Swag does with his claims on penalty rates, you claim it saves money but haven't provided evidence of it.

DO you think if the govt. stopped subsidising private schools they will cease to exist? If so, So much for your claim that they provide a better education  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #97 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:09am
 
Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:00am:
I quite liked the analogy in one of Phils links ....

the govt. should subsidise my car expenses because it's cheaper than having to provide me with public transport.

Scoot, you are doing the same crap Swag does with his claims on penalty rates, you claim it saves money but haven't provided evidence of it.

DO you think if the govt. stopped subsidising private schools they will cease to exist? If so, So much for your claim that they provide a better education  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


God you're full of $hit sometimes.

If one of your kids obtained a scholarship to attend a good private school.....would you refuse it? Yes or no?

Be careful how you answer....otherwise a certain psychiatrist who quickly popped in last night over at PA might be needed. Roll Eyes

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Reply #98 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:10am
 
Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:00am:
I quite liked the analogy in one of Phils links ....

the govt. should subsidise my car expenses because it's cheaper than having to provide me with public transport.

Scoot, you are doing the same crap Swag does with his claims on penalty rates, you claim it saves money but haven't provided evidence of it.

DO you think if the govt. stopped subsidising private schools they will cease to exist? If so, So much for your claim that they provide a better education  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


John, education is compulsory.
parents of private school children make a significant contribution to relieve the burden on the taxpayer.
If they chose to avail themselves of the public system, then the taxpayer would have to pick up this additional burden.

A better analogy is someone who rents privately and gets $40 a week rent assistance as opposed to someone who is in public housing and gets their house at a cost to the taxpayer that might be 3 or 4 times this.

the private renter is not bludging on the system . they are saving the system a fortune.

And it is the same for the wonderful people who send their children to private schools and make a financial contribution to assist the taxpayer. Simply marvellous australians. and a lot of them do it with great personal self sacrifice, giving up the foxtel and pokies and alcohol and smokes which the parents of public school students see as more of a priority.
How pitiful  Wink
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Reply #99 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:55am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 6:44am:
ImSpartacus2 wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 8:01pm:
mariacostel wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 7:32pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 6:15pm:


When trying to make any point it is always important to use statistics out of context so as to look credible while in fact lying. Private school funding has grown a lot faster than public school funding. That's true. Shock! Horror! What of course is missing is the fact that private school attendances are growing far faster than public schools. We call this an 'inconvenient truth'.
And the relevance of that is what? It certainly says nothing about the quality of education that students are getting at private schools compared to public schools and it certainly doesn't justify diverting public education funds to private schools.  If you want to send your kids to private schools fine but you should pay for it instead of leeching off the taxpayer to fund your elitism.



yawn,  since the government spends LESS per student in the private sector then the public sector, it is simply impossible to say that private schools are leeching off taxpayers,  they are , in fact, saving taxpayers a fortune as each child in a private school costs the taxpayer LESS then if they were in a public school.
Can the leftards acknowledge this as a fact please.

after acknowledging this, anyone who again says that private school are a drain on the education system really reveals themselves as someone who did not go to a private or public school , but instead went to a special school.

this means you spartacus and john smith, now admit the error in your remedial maths and then we can move forward  Wink
Your post doesn't address anything that I said even though it purports to.  Also there is an issue of economies of scale that you are ignoring.  First, the public school education budget should only go to public schools, instead much of that budget is being given away to private schools where only an exclusive part of the community can benefit. You dont have to be Einstein to know that that's bordering on criminal.  Also if that money went back to the public schools why wouldn't it more then cover whatever extra costs are incurred by the return of "some" private school students, especially much of the infrastructure of public schools will be there (economies of scale). Of course you pretend there will be a stampede back to the private sector and I very much doubt that given the near psychotic need of people like you, Scoot and Longy to feel you're above the herd. If you want private education you pay for it instead of leeching off the rest of us to meet the cost for you.         
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Reply #101 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 9:02am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:10am:
Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:00am:
I quite liked the analogy in one of Phils links ....

the govt. should subsidise my car expenses because it's cheaper than having to provide me with public transport.

Scoot, you are doing the same crap Swag does with his claims on penalty rates, you claim it saves money but haven't provided evidence of it.

DO you think if the govt. stopped subsidising private schools they will cease to exist? If so, So much for your claim that they provide a better education  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


John, education is compulsory.
parents of private school children make a significant contribution to relieve the burden on the taxpayer.
If they chose to avail themselves of the public system, then the taxpayer would have to pick up this additional burden.

A better analogy is someone who rents privately and gets $40 a week rent assistance as opposed to someone who is in public housing and gets their house at a cost to the taxpayer that might be 3 or 4 times this.

the private renter is not bludging on the system . they are saving the system a fortune.

And it is the same for the wonderful people who send their children to private schools and make a financial contribution to assist the taxpayer. Simply marvellous australians. and a lot of them do it with great personal self sacrifice, giving up the foxtel and pokies and alcohol and smokes which the parents of public school students see as more of a priority.
How pitiful  Wink
Total cr@p. They dont make a contribution, rather the opposite. They drain public funds and redirect them to pay for their private costs.   
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Reply #102 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 9:07am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:10am:
Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:00am:
I quite liked the analogy in one of Phils links ....

the govt. should subsidise my car expenses because it's cheaper than having to provide me with public transport.

Scoot, you are doing the same crap Swag does with his claims on penalty rates, you claim it saves money but haven't provided evidence of it.

DO you think if the govt. stopped subsidising private schools they will cease to exist? If so, So much for your claim that they provide a better education  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


John, education is compulsory.

so is transport. Most people can't survive locked up in their houses with no transport of any kind.


parents of private school children make a significant contribution to relieve the burden on the taxpayer.
If they chose to avail themselves of the public system, then the taxpayer would have to pick up this additional burden.

wrong, if those parents wanted to relieve the taxpayer, they wouldn't ask the govt. to subsidise their decision. Not everyone in private education will go to the public system. People like you and Maria would never dare let your kids mingle with the common folk.



A better analogy is someone who rents privately and gets $40 a week rent assistance as opposed to someone who is in public housing and gets their house at a cost to the taxpayer that might be 3 or 4 times this.

you can't pretend the $40 rent assistance available to few is the same as private school funding?


the private renter is not bludging on the system . they are saving the system a fortune.

renting is not compulsory


And it is the same for the wonderful people who send their children to private schools and make a financial contribution to assist the taxpayer. Simply marvellous australians. and a lot of them do it with great personal self sacrifice, giving up the foxtel and pokies and alcohol and smokes which the parents of public school students see as more of a priority.

such wonderful people, pay $30k in tax and claim back $40  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


How pitiful  Wink
I agree




now that you've got you spiel out of the way, why don't you concentrate on proving your claim that funding private education saves taxpayers money?
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Reply #103 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 9:10am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:10am:
Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:00am:
I quite liked the analogy in one of Phils links ....

the govt. should subsidise my car expenses because it's cheaper than having to provide me with public transport.

Scoot, you are doing the same crap Swag does with his claims on penalty rates, you claim it saves money but haven't provided evidence of it.

DO you think if the govt. stopped subsidising private schools they will cease to exist? If so, So much for your claim that they provide a better education  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


John, education is compulsory.
parents of private school children make a significant contribution to relieve the burden on the taxpayer.
If they chose to avail themselves of the public system, then the taxpayer would have to pick up this additional burden.

A better analogy is someone who rents privately and gets $40 a week rent assistance as opposed to someone who is in public housing and gets their house at a cost to the taxpayer that might be 3 or 4 times this.

the private renter is not bludging on the system . they are saving the system a fortune.

And it is the same for the wonderful people who send their children to private schools and make a financial contribution to assist the taxpayer. Simply marvellous australians. and a lot of them do it with great personal self sacrifice, giving up the foxtel and pokies and alcohol and smokes which the parents of public school students see as more of a priority.
How pitiful 
Wink
Please support your claim, particularly with regard to the numbers you assume will return to the public sector and the savings the public sector will make from not having to gift public funds to private schools.

Also the elitism evidenced by the highlighted part of your post demonstrates clearly why you should never be subsidised to bring your children up in the repugnant manner that you were or wish you were.  Pay for it yourself. 


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Reply #104 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 9:21am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:09am:
Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8th, 2015 at 8:00am:
I quite liked the analogy in one of Phils links ....

the govt. should subsidise my car expenses because it's cheaper than having to provide me with public transport.

Scoot, you are doing the same crap Swag does with his claims on penalty rates, you claim it saves money but haven't provided evidence of it.

DO you think if the govt. stopped subsidising private schools they will cease to exist? If so, So much for your claim that they provide a better education  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


God you're full of $hit sometimes.

If one of your kids obtained a scholarship to attend a good private school.....would you refuse it? Yes or no?

Be careful how you answer....otherwise a certain psychiatrist who quickly popped in last night over at PA might be needed. Roll Eyes



Same question applies to Sparty.
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