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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #120 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am It is obscene that taxpayers fund some of the wealthiest schools in the country.
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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #121 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:51am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

Because if they withdrew the private funding the majority of private students would revert to public and cost more

making crap up again? The UK doesn't fund private schools and their private schools are full. The USA doesn't fund theirs either and they have waiting lists . You cannot argue that it will cost more until you can show the majority will switch. I don't believe they will, people like you and scoot would never send your kids with the commoners. You know the saying, a fool and their money .... and there is no shortage of fools, as you keep proving with just about every post.

The vast number of private schools in Australia are low-fee ones ie paying $2000-$3000 per student. The parents are not wealthy. But if you remove government funding and that suddenly becomes $10,000 - $11,000 per student the majority would have no choice but to return to the public system where the government will be out of pocket $3K for each kid.

You maintain ideology, but the government sees it as a way of saving money and a very good one at that.

Thought the figures would be higher than that Maria.

But yeah...the private school system does help out. Just look at the equation in terms of their portion in provision of infrastructure alone.

The Catholic and Christian private schools are almost all low-fee. Whenever the subject comes up the media and other commentators focus on the handful of truly elite an very-expensive schools while ignoring the vast number of others.

The opposition to private schools is based on envy or ideology, never on outcomes or pragmatism.

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Reply #122 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:52am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

Because if they withdrew the private funding the majority of private students would revert to public and cost more

making crap up again? The UK doesn't fund private schools and their private schools are full. The USA doesn't fund theirs either and they have waiting lists . You cannot argue that it will cost more until you can show the majority will switch. I don't believe they will, people like you and scoot would never send your kids with the commoners. You know the saying, a fool and their money .... and there is no shortage of fools, as you keep proving with just about every post.

The vast number of private schools in Australia are low-fee ones ie paying $2000-$3000 per student. The parents are not wealthy. But if you remove government funding and that suddenly becomes $10,000 - $11,000 per student the majority would have no choice but to return to the public system where the government will be out of pocket $3K for each kid.

You maintain ideology, but the government sees it as a way of saving money and a very good one at that.

more blah blah blah, you're so full of sh1t.

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Reply #123 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:53am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

Because if they withdrew the private funding the majority of private students would revert to public and cost more

making crap up again? The UK doesn't fund private schools and their private schools are full. The USA doesn't fund theirs either and they have waiting lists . You cannot argue that it will cost more until you can show the majority will switch. I don't believe they will, people like you and scoot would never send your kids with the commoners. You know the saying, a fool and their money .... and there is no shortage of fools, as you keep proving with just about every post.

The vast number of private schools in Australia are low-fee ones ie paying $2000-$3000 per student. The parents are not wealthy. But if you remove government funding and that suddenly becomes $10,000 - $11,000 per student the majority would have no choice but to return to the public system where the government will be out of pocket $3K for each kid.

You maintain ideology, but the government sees it as a way of saving money and a very good one at that.

Thought the figures would be higher than that Maria.

But yeah...the private school system does help out. Just look at the equation in terms of their portion in provision of infrastructure alone.

$2000 - $3000 per student PER TERM would be closer to the truth.

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Reply #124 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:57am

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

Because if they withdrew the private funding the majority of private students would revert to public and cost more

making crap up again? The UK doesn't fund private schools and their private schools are full. The USA doesn't fund theirs either and they have waiting lists . You cannot argue that it will cost more until you can show the majority will switch. I don't believe they will, people like you and scoot would never send your kids with the commoners. You know the saying, a fool and their money .... and there is no shortage of fools, as you keep proving with just about every post.

The vast number of private schools in Australia are low-fee ones ie paying $2000-$3000 per student. The parents are not wealthy. But if you remove government funding and that suddenly becomes $10,000 - $11,000 per student the majority would have no choice but to return to the public system where the government will be out of pocket $3K for each kid.

You maintain ideology, but the government sees it as a way of saving money and a very good one at that.

Thought the figures would be higher than that Maria.

But yeah...the private school system does help out. Just look at the equation in terms of their portion in provision of infrastructure alone.

The Catholic and Christian private schools are almost all low-fee. Whenever the subject comes up the media and other commentators focus on the handful of truly elite an very-expensive schools while ignoring the vast number of others.

The opposition to private schools is based on envy or ideology, never on outcomes or pragmatism.

In southeast Queensland, 'Churchie' raised $30.9 million itself in fees, charges, parental contributions and other private sources in 2009.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/where-the-fees-add-up-brisbanes-highest-earning-school-20110304-1bhij.html#ixzz3nwB6oxPO
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this is ONE christian school .... $30 million in one year PLUS govt. funding? who are you kidding? Cheesy

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #125 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:59am

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:53am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

Because if they withdrew the private funding the majority of private students would revert to public and cost more

making crap up again? The UK doesn't fund private schools and their private schools are full. The USA doesn't fund theirs either and they have waiting lists . You cannot argue that it will cost more until you can show the majority will switch. I don't believe they will, people like you and scoot would never send your kids with the commoners. You know the saying, a fool and their money .... and there is no shortage of fools, as you keep proving with just about every post.

The vast number of private schools in Australia are low-fee ones ie paying $2000-$3000 per student. The parents are not wealthy. But if you remove government funding and that suddenly becomes $10,000 - $11,000 per student the majority would have no choice but to return to the public system where the government will be out of pocket $3K for each kid.

You maintain ideology, but the government sees it as a way of saving money and a very good one at that.

Thought the figures would be higher than that Maria.

But yeah...the private school system does help out. Just look at the equation in terms of their portion in provision of infrastructure alone.

$2000 - $3000 per student PER TERM would be closer to the truth.

Your ignorance continues. Just because you come from an underclass that could not even conceive of private schooling does not mean other people don't aim higher - even on limited incomes. You clearly have not the slightest idea about private schooling.

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Reply #126 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:00pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:59am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:53am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

Because if they withdrew the private funding the majority of private students would revert to public and cost more

making crap up again? The UK doesn't fund private schools and their private schools are full. The USA doesn't fund theirs either and they have waiting lists . You cannot argue that it will cost more until you can show the majority will switch. I don't believe they will, people like you and scoot would never send your kids with the commoners. You know the saying, a fool and their money .... and there is no shortage of fools, as you keep proving with just about every post.

The vast number of private schools in Australia are low-fee ones ie paying $2000-$3000 per student. The parents are not wealthy. But if you remove government funding and that suddenly becomes $10,000 - $11,000 per student the majority would have no choice but to return to the public system where the government will be out of pocket $3K for each kid.

You maintain ideology, but the government sees it as a way of saving money and a very good one at that.

Thought the figures would be higher than that Maria.

But yeah...the private school system does help out. Just look at the equation in terms of their portion in provision of infrastructure alone.

$2000 - $3000 per student PER TERM would be closer to the truth.

Your ignorance continues. Just because you come from an underclass that could not even conceive of private schooling does not mean other people don't aim higher - even on limited incomes. You clearly have not the slightest idea about private schooling.

it should be easy for you to pt up fee's of $2000 Maria .... what's the matter, you afraid to post facts?

and my underclass still has ten times the class you'll ever have Cheesy

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #127 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:01pm Private schooling does not offer that much in lasting benefits. Does that Brisbane school pay tax on its earnings?
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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #128 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:02pm

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:57am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

Because if they withdrew the private funding the majority of private students would revert to public and cost more

making crap up again? The UK doesn't fund private schools and their private schools are full. The USA doesn't fund theirs either and they have waiting lists . You cannot argue that it will cost more until you can show the majority will switch. I don't believe they will, people like you and scoot would never send your kids with the commoners. You know the saying, a fool and their money .... and there is no shortage of fools, as you keep proving with just about every post.

The vast number of private schools in Australia are low-fee ones ie paying $2000-$3000 per student. The parents are not wealthy. But if you remove government funding and that suddenly becomes $10,000 - $11,000 per student the majority would have no choice but to return to the public system where the government will be out of pocket $3K for each kid.

You maintain ideology, but the government sees it as a way of saving money and a very good one at that.

Thought the figures would be higher than that Maria.

But yeah...the private school system does help out. Just look at the equation in terms of their portion in provision of infrastructure alone.

The Catholic and Christian private schools are almost all low-fee. Whenever the subject comes up the media and other commentators focus on the handful of truly elite an very-expensive schools while ignoring the vast number of others.

The opposition to private schools is based on envy or ideology, never on outcomes or pragmatism.

In southeast Queensland, 'Churchie' raised $30.9 million itself in fees, charges, parental contributions and other private sources in 2009.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/where-the-fees-add-up-brisbanes-highest-earning-school-20110304-1bhij.html#ixzz3nwB6oxPO
Follow us: @brisbanetimes on Twitter | brisbanetimes on Facebook

this is ONE christian school .... $30 million in one year PLUS govt. funding? who are you kidding? Cheesy

DO you have anything other than a single example and an unhealthy does of envy?

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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #129 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:03pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:01pm: Private schooling does not offer that much in lasting benefits. Does that Brisbane school pay tax on its earnings? How would you know? You never went, you never had kids and your record for accuracy is abysmal. Plus 'benefits' are not the issue.
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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #130 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:04pm

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:00pm:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:59am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:53am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

Because if they withdrew the private funding the majority of private students would revert to public and cost more

making crap up again? The UK doesn't fund private schools and their private schools are full. The USA doesn't fund theirs either and they have waiting lists . You cannot argue that it will cost more until you can show the majority will switch. I don't believe they will, people like you and scoot would never send your kids with the commoners. You know the saying, a fool and their money .... and there is no shortage of fools, as you keep proving with just about every post.

The vast number of private schools in Australia are low-fee ones ie paying $2000-$3000 per student. The parents are not wealthy. But if you remove government funding and that suddenly becomes $10,000 - $11,000 per student the majority would have no choice but to return to the public system where the government will be out of pocket $3K for each kid.

You maintain ideology, but the government sees it as a way of saving money and a very good one at that.

Thought the figures would be higher than that Maria.

But yeah...the private school system does help out. Just look at the equation in terms of their portion in provision of infrastructure alone.

$2000 - $3000 per student PER TERM would be closer to the truth.

Your ignorance continues. Just because you come from an underclass that could not even conceive of private schooling does not mean other people don't aim higher - even on limited incomes. You clearly have not the slightest idea about private schooling.

it should be easy for you to pt up fee's of $2000 Maria .... what's the matter, you afraid to post facts?

and my underclass still has ten times the class you'll ever have Cheesy

Why show you anything? It is literally 'throwing pearls before swine'. You will reject. misinterpret, ignore or run away from any fact you don't like.

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #131 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:05pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

Because if they withdrew the private funding the majority of private students would revert to public and cost more

making crap up again? The UK doesn't fund private schools and their private schools are full. The USA doesn't fund theirs either and they have waiting lists . You cannot argue that it will cost more until you can show the majority will switch. I don't believe they will, people like you and scoot would never send your kids with the commoners. You know the saying, a fool and their money .... and there is no shortage of fools, as you keep proving with just about every post.

The vast number of private schools in Australia are low-fee ones ie paying $2000-$3000 per student. The parents are not wealthy. But if you remove government funding and that suddenly becomes $10,000 - $11,000 per student the majority would have no choice but to return to the public system where the government will be out of pocket $3K for each kid.

You maintain ideology, but the government sees it as a way of saving money and a very good one at that.

Thought the figures would be higher than that Maria.

But yeah...the private school system does help out. Just look at the equation in terms of their portion in provision of infrastructure alone.

The Catholic and Christian private schools are almost all low-fee. Whenever the subject comes up the media and other commentators focus on the handful of truly elite an very-expensive schools while ignoring the vast number of others.

The opposition to private schools is based on envy or ideology, never on outcomes or pragmatism.

I know. Just look at this topic for example.

BTW, whilst here....I hope you weren't in any way offended by my posts to you in the Domestic Violence topic. I quite enjoy reading your stuff online. Ok?

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #132 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:05pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:57am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:20am:

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 11:02am:

Because if they withdrew the private funding the majority of private students would revert to public and cost more

making crap up again? The UK doesn't fund private schools and their private schools are full. The USA doesn't fund theirs either and they have waiting lists . You cannot argue that it will cost more until you can show the majority will switch. I don't believe they will, people like you and scoot would never send your kids with the commoners. You know the saying, a fool and their money .... and there is no shortage of fools, as you keep proving with just about every post.

The vast number of private schools in Australia are low-fee ones ie paying $2000-$3000 per student. The parents are not wealthy. But if you remove government funding and that suddenly becomes $10,000 - $11,000 per student the majority would have no choice but to return to the public system where the government will be out of pocket $3K for each kid.

You maintain ideology, but the government sees it as a way of saving money and a very good one at that.

Thought the figures would be higher than that Maria.

But yeah...the private school system does help out. Just look at the equation in terms of their portion in provision of infrastructure alone.

The Catholic and Christian private schools are almost all low-fee. Whenever the subject comes up the media and other commentators focus on the handful of truly elite an very-expensive schools while ignoring the vast number of others.

The opposition to private schools is based on envy or ideology, never on outcomes or pragmatism.

In southeast Queensland, 'Churchie' raised $30.9 million itself in fees, charges, parental contributions and other private sources in 2009.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/where-the-fees-add-up-brisbanes-highest-earning-school-20110304-1bhij.html#ixzz3nwB6oxPO
Follow us: @brisbanetimes on Twitter | brisbanetimes on Facebook

this is ONE christian school .... $30 million in one year PLUS govt. funding? who are you kidding? Cheesy

DO you have anything other than a single example and an unhealthy does of envy?

my one example is still 100 times more proof of anything than you've ever put up Cheesy

why do you spend all your time attacking me instead of supporting your claims? do you really think I give a crap what some botox primed old nutter suffering from illusions of grandeur says about me? Grin

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Reply #133 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:06pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Why show you anything? It is literally 'throwing pearls before swine'. You will reject. misinterpret, ignore or run away from any fact you don't like.

well that you would never know since you have NEVER, not on any topic I've engaged you with, EVER provided any proof of anything ... for some reason you seem to think flapping your gums is proof enough Cheesy

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Reply #134 - Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:08pm

mariacostel wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 8^th, 2015 at 12:01pm:

Private schooling does not offer that much in lasting benefits.

Does that Brisbane school pay tax on its earnings?

How would you know? You never went, you never had kids and your record for accuracy is abysmal. Plus 'benefits' are not the issue.

Of course benefits are an issue, else why pay for private schooling?

I asked if that school paid tax, be a fair whack due on $30m! Or is a church school and so exempted from paying tax?

I have proved everything I have posited, very much unlike you. Cheap shot on my childlessness, but it is what everybody expects from you, Longy, abuse but no proof.

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