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Reply #15 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:46am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 5^th, 2015 at 10:44pm:

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Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 5^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

Major gaffe by Shorten, that. A real private school charges like $30K+ per year, more if the kid is boarding.

Those on $60K a year are worrying about paying the rent.

rubbish .... while I acknowledge there are those schools, you can also get them a lot cheaper.

A cheap option is around 15K these days.

Still, not too cheap if you're on 60K.

depends on where you are

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Reply #16 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:50am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 5^th, 2015 at 10:44pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Oct 5^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 5^th, 2015 at 5:38pm:

Major gaffe by Shorten, that. A real private school charges like $30K+ per year, more if the kid is boarding.

Those on $60K a year are worrying about paying the rent.

rubbish .... while I acknowledge there are those schools, you can also get them a lot cheaper.

A cheap option is around 15K these days.

Still, not too cheap if you're on 60K.

AB PAttersons, rated the number 1 private school in Qld.

Starting from $9,032.40 p.a.

http://www.privateschoolsguide.com/A.B.-Paterson-College-Qld/

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Reply #17 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:58am

probably the best investment a parent can make.

beg, borrow or steal but get your kids mixing with the cream , as cream like behaviour is contagious.

and getting a leg up into the workforce is all about social circle, so the more cream you mix with, the more you will get opportunities from your cream-like classmates.

its not what you know, its who you know, and you want to be surrounding yourself with positive, dynamic, charged, optomisitic people .

public school teachers seem unionised, unmotivated, burnt out and beaten down.

this is no place for your children.

get them the hell out of the leftard , black armband, self loathing, dysfunctional public school system which teaches nothing but negative neurotic thinking, limiting beliefs and success barriers.

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Reply #18 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:15am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

get them the hell out of the leftard , black armband, self loathing, dysfunctional public school system which teaches nothing but negative neurotic thinking, limiting beliefs and success barriers.

Every school is different, and while nothing I have ever seen resembles the fantasy you have dreamt up, you would do well to remember that "public schools" are not some massive entity, but separate organisations made up of individual teachers and students.

If you really don't like the one for whatever reason, there will usually be two or three other options available, with the exception of rural areas of course that may cater to your best interests. Many secondary schools in particular have a greater focus on vocational studies if academia isn't to your liking.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #19 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:22am

Stratos wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:15am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

get them the hell out of the leftard , black armband, self loathing, dysfunctional public school system which teaches nothing but negative neurotic thinking, limiting beliefs and success barriers.

Every school is different, and while nothing I have ever seen resembles the fantasy you have dreamt up, you would do well to remember that "public schools" are not some massive entity, but separate organisations made up of individual teachers and students.

If you really don't like the one for whatever reason, there will usually be two or three other options available, with the exception of rural areas of course that may cater to your best interests. Many secondary schools in particular have a greater focus on vocational studies if academia isn't to your liking.

I'm pretty sure someone did a study and found that every dollar spent on a private education returned five dollars in terms of lifetime increased income.

better then super
better then sydney residential property.

value at 3 x the price.

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20542 Perth Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #20 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:26am My Children do very well at public school....The last thing I would want for my children is to be indoctrinated into some self serving faith based bullshit....Giving religions tax free status is criminal IMO!!! http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-rich-vatican-so-wealthy-it-can-stumble-across-milli...
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #21 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:36am philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:26am: Giving religions tax free status is criminal IMO!!! ..what about unions? PS...and I'm not disagreeing
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Reply #22 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:38am

Private schools coach students to pass exams and do well at NAPLAN etc. Then the student leaves school for Uni or work and the intense coaching is no longer there. Some can’t handle that.

When you come out of a good public school you are much more self reliant, a quality the fantasists Scoot would say is a rightard quality.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools Reply #23 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:42am Private schools are like public selective high schools ....they push kids to perform well. Both the above types of schools are the way to go.
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Reply #24 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:51am

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

Private schools coach students to pass exams and do well at NAPLAN etc. Then the student leaves school for Uni or work and the intense coaching is no longer there. Some can’t handle that.

When you come out of a good public school you are much more self reliant, a quality the fantasists Scoot would say is a rightard quality.

I went to public school. I don't quite remember the "self reliance" subject?

I guess combating the intimidation of the collectivists bullies and peer pressures installed some self reliance (and kicked off a lifetime dislike of collectivism) Sad

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Reply #25 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:53am

Swagman wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:36am:

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:26am:

Giving religions tax free status is criminal IMO!!!

..what about unions?

PS...and I'm not disagreeing

Gidday Swag....IMO unions should not get any tax free status either....Unions and the church should be allowed to claim for charity or community based work but pay tax on any profits like anyone else....I have no problem with people believing what ever they like as long as the taxpayer does not have to pay for their faith!!!

Huh

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Reply #26 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 12:46pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

Stratos wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:15am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

get them the hell out of the leftard , black armband, self loathing, dysfunctional public school system which teaches nothing but negative neurotic thinking, limiting beliefs and success barriers.

Every school is different, and while nothing I have ever seen resembles the fantasy you have dreamt up, you would do well to remember that "public schools" are not some massive entity, but separate organisations made up of individual teachers and students.

If you really don't like the one for whatever reason, there will usually be two or three other options available, with the exception of rural areas of course that may cater to your best interests. Many secondary schools in particular have a greater focus on vocational studies if academia isn't to your liking.

I'm pretty sure someone did a study and found that every dollar spent on a private education returned five dollars in terms of lifetime increased income.

better then super
better then sydney residential property.

value at 3 x the price.

Care to share?

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: Sending Children To Private Or Public Schools
Reply #28 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 12:47pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

Private schools coach students to pass exams and do well at NAPLAN etc. Then the student leaves school for Uni or work and the intense coaching is no longer there. Some can’t handle that.

When you come out of a good public school you are much more self reliant, a quality the fantasists Scoot would say is a rightard quality.

I went to a public school and finished year 12 with all second levels. My brother-in-law went to a private school and finished year 12 with all first levels. I passed my first year uni with credits and went on to get 2 degrees. He failed his first year 3 years in a row and never got a degree. Private schools are BS. Those who benefit from private schoos are are largely due to the old school tie network that develops around private schools and has very little to do with a superior education. No tax $$$$$ should ever go into private schools. Public schools should be free to all. If you are so elitist you need your kids to go to private schools then you should pay for it yourself. You want privileges then you pay for the priviliges.Simple really.

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Reply #29 - Oct 6^th, 2015 at 1:11pm

Stratos wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 12:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

Stratos wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 11:15am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 6^th, 2015 at 10:58am:

get them the hell out of the leftard , black armband, self loathing, dysfunctional public school system which teaches nothing but negative neurotic thinking, limiting beliefs and success barriers.

Every school is different, and while nothing I have ever seen resembles the fantasy you have dreamt up, you would do well to remember that "public schools" are not some massive entity, but separate organisations made up of individual teachers and students.

If you really don't like the one for whatever reason, there will usually be two or three other options available, with the exception of rural areas of course that may cater to your best interests. Many secondary schools in particular have a greater focus on vocational studies if academia isn't to your liking.

I'm pretty sure someone did a study and found that every dollar spent on a private education returned five dollars in terms of lifetime increased income.

better then super
better then sydney residential property.

value at 3 x the price.

Care to share?

from memory it was a study undertaken by the private school industry Cheesy

... not that they are biased much Grin

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